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To say nothing of advertising a bike in USD on a predominantly UK website.
Be away with you, spamfiend.
Thanks for reminding. Sorry for this, and I don't have any bad intention. I will take care next time, at least make a statement of interest that I'm company-affiliated, or better avoid such post.
Wait, so you post without making it clear that you're affiliated with the company, on a site where you know the review sample got slaughtered but without referencing that review? That doesn't feel quite on, frankly.
In my estimation you've just gone from "shame about the failed first effort, may improve in future" to "dodgy/misleading marketing tactics, dislike on principle"
My apologies for this. I don't have any bad intention, never want to mislead anyone.
I will take care next time, and a statement of interest is a must.
Again, my apologies.
Xcj - seems like an opportunity to promote your product then, the best deal you've seen you say:
1. Isn't it rather heavy for an aero carbon bike?
2. What is wrong with current computers/sensors that motivated your desire to hard wire everything and lock people down?
3. Is the 'updated' version likely to be as badly reviewed hence the desire to hide it from the media?
4. Following on from the above, you'll have a few orders from kickstarter, how do you anticipate word of mouth and reviews to scale up?
5. What is the usp of this expensive bike?
1) It's not that much heavy. Leopard Pro is 8.6 kg, compared to a 4000+ USD aero bike, which is approximately 7.5 kg, the extra weight mainly comes from three things: battery inside seatpost, stem and wheelset.
2) We fix bugs of the firmware, and it performs well to record all common cycling data.
3) What "updated version" you're referring to? Sorry about this.
4) We get tons of positive feedback from global backers, and we're community-oriented, while you don't see any other established bike brands run online community. We run this company in the way of tech startup. I have big confidence in word of mouth marketing.
5) Honestly, low price for aerodynamics + Di2. We don't aim for selling cheap products, it's our first bike as a new brand, and we sell it at a lower price only for market attention. Our coming products will be at premium prices.
For those of you tempted to commit a significant amount of money on Kickstarter, perhaps read the FAQs - https://www.kickstarter.com/help/faq/kickstarter+basics . When backing, you are not buying a product, you are helping fund development. Consider that, if you get no bike for your money, you'll be looking at claiming back through your credit card. An example of a failed scheme is the Zano - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-3535614
Yep, still waitng for my Helix folding bike from kickstarter. I think it's actually going to happen now, but it's over a year and a half over schedule so far
I prefer the Genesis Zero Disc Zi for £3299. It's got full Ultegra Di2, flat mount hydraulic disc brakes and thru-axles. Also the frame uses 30T/40T carbon fibre and it has a much better review than the SpeedX: http://road.cc/content/review/203705-genesis-zero-disc-i
Fair enough: is the production model with any sites for review?
No, we stopped the media review for Leopard Pro after the two low score ratings. It costs a lot for a startup like SpeedX, so we decided to stop the review for Leopard.
We don't have that much progress in media for the past few months.
Next week, you probably will see an article from Bikeradar about the cockpit design of next generation Leopard.
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No, we stopped the media review for Leopard Pro after the two low score ratings. It costs a lot for a startup like SpeedX, so we decided to stop the review for Leopard.
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Says everything doesn't it.
Road.cc slaughtered this, didnt they? Along with every other "main stream" outlet.
Im all for chinacarbon, I even have one myself, but not at that price.
You could have an equally nice Di2 equipped bike by sourcing your carbon frame, fork and wheels from ebay, shopping around for the bits that I wouldnt trust budget chinacarbon for / they dont do (pedals, tyres, saddle, stem and bar etc...) then sticking it all together yourself. This could even be potentially cheaper even if you pay a tech to build it for you.
It would be lighter, look nicer (assuming you pick a nice frame set) and wouldnt have all the nasty chinacarbon finishing kit or the dead end barely functional integration.
Maybe you could have tried a little harder to find a relevant review on this very site..?
http://road.cc/content/review/213969-speedx-leopard-pro
Honestly, it's a big mistake, and we totally deserve it. We wanted to have the review as early as possible, and we sent the late edition prototype to Bikeradar and Road.cc. It's a lesson learned for SpeedX as a young startup. Leopard is our first bike product, and it's our first time to do bike review with media. I don't think we will make the same mistake again.