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Boardman Pro Carbon SLR..... Overweight?

I have just bought a small, Boardman Pro Carbon SLR. The medium size, on the Boardman site, is advertised at 7.3kg. Halfords, and review sites, including this one, have it at tiny fraction over 7kg. When I got it home I weighed it and it showed 7.8kg. The Halfords shop have weighed it with the same result. That's a massive difference. Boardman have told me and Halfords that the difference is an acceptable tolerance and could be down to; paint, wheels, saddle etc.

Any one got any thoughts?

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stomec | 7 years ago
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How accurate are your scales?  Is it not more likely that they are out?  Have you tried different scales and calibrated them with accurately weighed volumes of water?

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arckuk | 7 years ago
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I realise that 500 g doesn't make much difference to overall performance, but I think that that's taking the piss a bit - yes there are tolerances on individual components but there are many components on a bike, and some of those will be slightly lighter than average and some slightly heavier. When a bike is advertised at a specific weight, it should be there or thereabouts (100-200 g variance is acceptable, but 200g over should be the exception rather than the rule). Half a kilo is a lot! If Boardman can't make their bikes more repeatably than that, then they've got serious manufacturing issues.

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efail | 7 years ago
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Thank you for all of your comments, humerous 'and' constructive. I know it doesn't sound a great deal of weight (actually 14% heavier) but part of it is the disappointment I felt, after reading the hype, and then weighing the bike. I'll wait and see what Halfords have to say today, but I won't hold my breath expecting to hear from Boardman. 

By the way...what's 'hair gel'?

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velochris replied to efail | 7 years ago
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efail wrote:

Thank you for all of your comments, humerous 'and' constructive. I know it doesn't sound a great deal of weight (actually 14% heavier) but part of it is the disappointment I felt, after reading the hype, and then weighing the bike. I'll wait and see what Halfords have to say today, but I won't hold my breath expecting to hear from Boardman. 

By the way...what's 'hair gel'?

Do a quick search on Halfords website to find other stores with the same bike in stock. Phone them and ask them to weight the bike. If all the bikes are coming out plus 500g it seems less plausible to quote a plus or minus range and appears to be more the norm. This would support your case if you do feel the 500g is am issue.

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the_jm replied to efail | 7 years ago
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efail wrote:

Thank you for all of your comments, humerous 'and' constructive. I know it doesn't sound a great deal of weight (actually 14% heavier) but part of it is the disappointment I felt, after reading the hype, and then weighing the bike. 

You should only feel half the disappointment as it's actually < 7% heavier...

 

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philhubbard | 7 years ago
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Most parts on a bike have a standard tolerance of +/-10%, thats why you have companies such as Sky weighing every tyre and measuring every stem. You may have just been unfortunate and got some wheels and tyres which were slightly heavier than the norm that could make up 500g. I know for a fact we used to get the same Conti tyres that could vary by over 40g

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BehindTheBikesheds | 7 years ago
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I get what the OP is saying and I agree with them. The bike is advertised as "super lightweight", except it isn't and is not just marginally heavier but substantially heavier thus it actually breaches what it is purporting/selling itself to be.

if the OP had know it was going to weigh that much then they may have chosen another product elsewhere, afterall part of that decision when buying a bike and some components is down to how heavy the bike is, we all do it.

Personally I would reject the bike as false advertising/not as described quoting the consumer Rights Act and get a full refund and buy something else if it bothered me that much/felt I was being diddled, I have done similar with some 'lightweight' chains that were nothing of the sort and for which was the main reason i bought them.

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alansmurphy | 7 years ago
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I'll bet your hair gel weighs more...

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kil0ran replied to alansmurphy | 7 years ago
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alansmurphy wrote:

I'll bet your hair gel weighs more...

Doesn't seem to hold Kittel back...

Then again, I hear Alpecin use carbon nanotubes in their hair care products

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Beecho replied to kil0ran | 7 years ago
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kil0ran wrote:

alansmurphy wrote:

I'll bet your hair gel weighs more...

Doesn't seem to hold Kittel back...

Then again, I hear Alpecin use carbon nanotubes in their hair care products

Got me a new Canyon. Came with some hair loss prevention Alpecin. About 25 years too late...

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Canyon48 replied to Beecho | 7 years ago
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Beecho wrote:

kil0ran wrote:

alansmurphy wrote:

I'll bet your hair gel weighs more...

Doesn't seem to hold Kittel back...

Then again, I hear Alpecin use carbon nanotubes in their hair care products

Got me a new Canyon. Came with some hair loss prevention Alpecin. About 25 years too late...

Less hair means less weight though.

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fizrar6 replied to alansmurphy | 7 years ago
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alansmurphy wrote:

I'll bet your hair gel weighs more...

I bet your ego weighs more.

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alansmurphy replied to fizrar6 | 7 years ago
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fizrar6 wrote:

alansmurphy wrote:

I'll bet your hair gel weighs more...

I bet your ego weighs more.

I leave that at home when riding and save it up for people getting nouty on a website in defence of someone they never met. Bless you princess.

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ibr17xvii | 7 years ago
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Although it wouldn't bother me too much personally I'm kinda with the OP on this one, half a kilo is too much of a difference.

Manufacturers should weigh the bike as shipped with no "extras" on it & report that weight so it's accurate IMHO.

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barbarus | 7 years ago
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Have a large poo before heading out riding?

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efail | 7 years ago
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Thanks for the response. No pedals, no tat. Basic. Even if I accept the BS (quote), is 500g above their claimed, 'super lightweight' (quote Boardman website, medium), acceptable? It's like asking someone to carry an extra bottle of water up the 152,00 m  of 'elevation gain'(Strava) that I did last year, for absolutely nothing.

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bobbinogs replied to efail | 7 years ago
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efail wrote:

Thanks for the response. No pedals, no tat. Basic. Even if I accept the BS (quote), is 500g above their claimed, 'super lightweight' (quote Boardman website, medium), acceptable? It's like asking someone to carry an extra bottle of water up the 152,000 of 'elevation gain'(Strava) that I did last year, for absolutely nothing.

You do realise how ridiculous you sound? Just calculate 500g as a percentage of your body weight and learn to smirk at the insignificance of it all.

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efail replied to bobbinogs | 7 years ago
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Bobbinogs wrote:
efail wrote:

 

You do realise how ridiculous you sound? Just calculate 500g as a percentage of your body weight and learn to smirk at the insignificance of it all.

 

Me? Ridiculous? Thank you. 

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madcarew replied to efail | 7 years ago
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efail wrote:

Thanks for the response. No pedals, no tat. Basic. Even if I accept the BS (quote), is 500g above their claimed, 'super lightweight' (quote Boardman website, medium), acceptable? It's like asking someone to carry an extra bottle of water up the 152,00 m  of 'elevation gain'(Strava) that I did last year, for absolutely nothing.

I think it's fair to query that the bike is 8% over the advertised weight, especially when the weight is one of the major marketing factors. In any arguments I wouldn't dwell on the effect it will have on your riding / performance which is three fifths of five eighths of not a lot.

My immediate query is whether your components are exactly the same as the one with the advertised weight, and if the weight is for the same frame size. As an example, I bought a cannondale super six hi mod frame, and had old dura-ace on it, with dura-ace wheels etc. As the same model was ridden in the TdF and claimed to be about 6.65 kg I was really disappointed that mine weighed in at 7.6 kg. However, in preparing it for a major race, I put carbon wheels on, carbon handlebars, seat post, cranks etc etc in much the same configuration as it would be ridden by the pros and lo and behold it came down to 6.55 kg. It's amazing how the little differences add up. The 2 biggest difference was carbon cranks on a hollow axle (300g) and the carbon tubular wheels (400g over DA alloy clinchers).

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part_robot | 7 years ago
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Perfectly normal. If your frameset is painted I bet the weight of that alone is +/- 100g due to paint and resin variations. Take off pedals, add on tyre variations, add on a bit of manufacturer BS and you're there. The only company I've seen consistently spot on is Canyon. Most don't even list the weight due to these effects.

Wouldn't worry about it. You'll not feel a couple of hundred grams on the road unless you convince yourself you can. My 8.4kg and 7.4kg road bikes respond identically.

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check12 | 7 years ago
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Bottle cages off also

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mtbtomo | 7 years ago
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Its probably well within the manufacturing tolerances for all the components added together, and as previous, manufacturer bike weights never include pedals.

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Canyon48 | 7 years ago
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Bikes are usually weighed without pedals, could that be part of the difference?

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