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I think most of us probably haven't had the opportunity to try every option for each so we'll always be working on a small sample size where if we have a bad experience with one product we'll swerve the brand in future. For me, I echo the good comments about Decathlon and DHB clothing, and I have a set of Shimano M540 pedals which are eight years old, have been heavily used on and off road, never seen a drop of oil and still work perfectly.
Some other good news... I've mentioned before here, but Vittoria Rubino tyres are outstanding value: roll fast, grippy and seem to last forever even on the turbo trainer (no joking, I've got two new pairs in a box waiting for the current set to wear out, and another pair in the loft that are too good to throw away). I also swear by either Vittoria or Continental inner tubes, and Endura Strike gloves are so good I still wear them ahead of two other pairs I bought trying to replace them.
On the contrary, I've never had a Schwalbe tyre I've got on with. Lugano road tyres - no grip in the damp, wear out (go square) quickly, puncture prone despite the alleged protection. Rapid Rob - puncture prone and they feel like when you accelerate, there's a half-second of flex before the sidewall drags the rest around. And Schwalbe, Decathlon or cheap no-name inner tubes are a really false economy.
The Good
Decathlon- bibshorts are brilliant, they just seem to last forever and have accompanied me on 100km rides without problems. Their carbon saddles were well worth the £30 they cost too.
The Gabba- bought my first one when they came out and replaced this year. The old one finally got killed off in my accident. The back panel was brown instead of black through sun damage.
SH plus- first helmet saved my head and customer service when sourcing a replacement was excellent.
Campagnolo- I still have 20 year old parts that are still going on one of the bikes, Campagnolo has never let me down. Having to buy the not too cheap tool for crank removal on the newer Campagnolo shod bike isn't anything to smile about, but I guess that's the way things are moving. The Shimano kit I also have works perfectly, it just has no soul.
Sidi- their shoes fit.
The Bad.
Kuota UK- I'd have another Kuota, just not from the UK importers. I had a simple maintenance enquiry which they simply told me to go to a bikeshop to remedy. I worked out what to do myself and they could have responded with the solution. Very unhelpful people.
Merida- They came to the village I was living in for a product launch for the press in the local forest. They had the staff to put up direction signage for the visitors, but no one to remove them when they had finished. It might be petty, but remember your brand can be damaged in many ways.
Orbea- In spite of having one Orbea and lusting after an Orca for years, I shan't be buying another. A friend of mine was offered a job with them this year, the pandemic arrived and her contract mysteriously disappeared, leaving her high and dry. Bad marketing Orbea.
Specalized- for the way they treated Cafe Roubaix.
SRAM- You'd think that what was a top of the range X.0 mtb groupset would not use fragile plastic springs that break on an annual basis, but they do. And at 100 Euros a time, it could have been expensive.
Shimano Tiagra- You pays your money, you takes the risk.
FSA- Cranks and chainwheels. Made of cheese.
You'd think they could make a front derailleur which actually works every time, too, but there you have it. Shifting to the big ring under any pedal pressure always felt like it should be accompanied by a quick prayer to the cycling gods. It is genuinely amazing that they still can't get this right. It's such a shame because the ideas behind Etap/AXS are brilliant.
Hope:
Great: Everything except the Head Doctor. Being a heavy rider I particularly like their seat clamps, and I'm a sucker for Hope Orange as it always goes well with blue or yellow frames, which I prefer.
Avoid: Head Doctor - chuck it in the bin and stick a proper SFN in instead, just not worth the hassle
So, what works:
Mech Campagnolo groupsets; threaded bottom brackets; Harry Rowland's wheels; Thomson carbon bars; Assos clothing - especially the winter stuff - say what you like, you get what you pay for; Rapha repair service - but you'll need it; Rapha shadow hat with a transparent peak (genius); Castelli net summer hat; Rapha neon pink overshoes; Yellow lenses for brightening up winter days; Exposure lights; Assos rain booties - and their Sturmnuss trousers; Quadlocks; Strava; Skratch products; Torq products; fig rolls; my Silca pump - it's the last one I'll ever need and I know it; and their hot wax; vintage Italian bikes; Ti Litespeeds...My Factor O2 with Ceramicspeed everything......My Park Tools box and Feedback bike stand....and Tier 4 which is going to be great for cycling!
Disappointing:
Poor quality allen bolts (you know, the rounded off ones on seatpost clamps); the stitching on Castelli clothes; GripGrab gloves (the liners come loose - one for the bin); Rapha lobster waterproof gloves (not waterproof); my patience with Garmin products has run out; I've had my moments with tubeless tyres; any type of black oil and tier 4 because our economy is already in poor shape.
Another vote for Galibier, high quality kit at a very reasonable price. I'm a particular fan of their Mistral Foul Weather Jacket for winter riding.
dhb have some fantastic kit, nothing fancy but it does the job, again at a very good price.
Endura - Personally I've found all of their products to be high quality kit that works.
Agree with all these, especially Galibier - the Mistral windproof bib tights are also very good. I did think the pad was a bit far forward but realized it's just that I need to get a bit aero.
Only sadness is that the Gino windproof jersey that I promised myself for Christmas has been updated and the new one doesn't seem as nice (to me). The old version is on sale (small and medium) at under £40 just to make me feel even worse...
Castelli. It just works. Not cheap, but good value (Sam Vines Boots Theory). Maybe it's just my riding style and body shape, but I just get on with Castelli kit. Other views are equally valid.
Garmin.... always battery life
Cervelo....bottom bracket...and...and...and...
Trek.... Latest ones with internal cable routing, bad routing & rattles
Bryton... everything works all of the time
Galibier.... Quality kit, decent price....
Campagnolo.... Just works and works... Wears out after 20 yrs
Continental.... been poor quality recently
Italian bikes....great build quality
Moon....superb lights
There are more........ I'm in the trade so all above are from real life experience not hear say....
Y'know, I've always been this close to buying Campag; every time, 'it'll be the next one', but it never is. It looks beautiful, and (from brief experience on a borrowed bike) their mechanical shifting is the best out there and their disc brakes are probably the best too (though I've not used them in the wet, so should withhold judgement). Though I'm not in the trade my work background means I can tell when something has been designed and put together well, and the odd (characteristically Italian) quirk notwithstanding, Campag always looks engineered, rather than just made, if that makes sense.
BUT - in real terms, you get a lot more Shimano for your money. Currently, real world prices for Ultegra Di2 are below those of mechanical Record. With Campag, you've also got the minefield of different bb and freehub standards/compatibility, spares are more expensive and a bit harder to get (you can't nip down the road, most of the time, and just pick up a new part), and a lot of mechanics don't have much experience working on it.
Shimano is just cheaper and easier, basically, and does what it's supposed to do so well you can see why they're so dominant. I can only think of a couple of things I'd change on the 2 Shimano groupsets I own, and tbh they're quibbles.
But I don't dispute Campag is beautiful stuff and I will have some, one day...
If only, huntswheeler, if only. My last Campag Centaur levers, which had led a very sheltered life, chewed up their ratchets and were unusable after only a couple of years.
Whilst they were not the highest level of Campag's catalogue, I expected better and have now switched to Shimano. So far, so good and money left in the bank too.
The ratchets in the lower end shifters are prone to being mashed. I know because I had the same issue myself and discovered their susceptiability through some Googling. However, they were repaired free of charge under warranty so I wasn't too fussed and it gave me the opportunity to learn a bit more about home mechanics.
The bike that had the Centuar groupset is sadly no longer and its replacement has 105 which is ok but I just don't get on with the brake levers and shifting mechanism as well as Campag. There's something that I find a little disconcerting about the brake levers moving around and have never been comfortable on descents. The levers themselves are also not for me - I think because they feel too big and far away from the hoods and drops. Perhaps there's an element of my mind refusing to enjoy Shimano as much as Campag as well...
My good bike is fitted with Campag Record and it has been superb for the 4 years it's been in use. As my summer bike, the distance hasn't been enormous but after 10,000km it still has the original chain and cassette and only needed new cables this year. I've had 3 sets of Campag wheels: old bike with Centaur had some Eurus for over 21,000km which didn't need anything replaced despite enduring some foul winters and then some Zondas which are now sitting idle after 6,000 trouble-free kms; and my good bike has a pair of Shamals which still look and feel brand new.
This guys: velotechcycling [at] aim.com will repair your ratchets.
Lusso. Great quality kit that just works. After some crash damage I asked them to send a small patch for me to sew in (badly). They asked me to send in the jacket and repaired it free of charge.
It's service like that which has marketing value well beyond the cost of what they did. I've got some Lusso bibs, winter tights and winter cap and will be buying a pair of the Breathe overshoes when they've got more stock in January. To those who haven't yet given Lusso kit a bash: do so.
Five Ten flat pedal shoes.
Over the past year I got 3 different pairs of the Freerider varient, suitable for differing weather conditions. I was thet impressed with my Spitfire 5 10s.
Another vote for shimano. It's so good you never have to even think about it.
I'm a big fan of tailfin for making the best touring/commuting pannier rack I have ever used plus their customer service is personal and really thorough.
rapha because after a year of searching I found their pro team shoes fit my weird asymmetrical feet really well unlike fizik, bont, sidi, giro etc etc. Plus when my bib shorts lost some threading they just gave me the credit for a new pair.
Some positives:
1. Fairlight. Genuinely personal service from Dom and the team to the point it almost feels like you're buying a bespoke bike. They also have incredible attention to detail.
2. Garmin. Controversial I know but I've had zero issues in 3 years with my Edge 130. Same can't be said for Wahoo, and their customer support was pretty slow.
3. Shimano. It all just works. And, in the MTB world at least, it's dirt cheap for the quality you're getting.
+1 for Shimano. Have been using Shimano stuff for years, and yet to have any issues.
Agreed with Shimano. Was it the Honda advert: 'isn't it great when stuff just works'? I know the former main mechanic at a LBS quite well, and his theory was that if a company can make reliable sea-fishing equipment (which Shimano do) then that's the company you want making stuff for your bike if you live in the UK. He hates SRAM, fwiw - make of that what you will!
Two I forgot: Assos winter gloves. Not cheap, but warm and comfy without being massive and unwieldy.
Fizik Antares saddle: oddly for a fairly small bloke and an experienced rider I've always struggled with saddles. This is a godsend. Totally personal, but still..
Just out of interest Recoveryride, which Assos gloves do you use? I'm looking to invest in some high quality winter gloves, but even with Assos the sheer options are a bit overwhelming.
I use these: https://www.sigmasports.com/item/Assos/Ultraz-Winter-Gloves/O01A?utm_sou...
My only complaint is they're not very waterproof, but I try to avoid going out in heavy rain these days anyway!
I have the same gloves: very comfortable and I like the neoprene-esque cuffs which make them easy to take off. I have some Rapha deep winter gloves which are warmer - but more difficult to get off and less comfortable.
+ another 1 for Shimano.
Whether it's the 7 speed stuff on my 23 y/o MTB or the 9 and 10 speed STIs and drivetrains, they are just so dependable. M520 pedals that are really cheap yet last for many years of all-weather riding and a pair of SPD shoes that just won't wear out.
Other brands I would happily recommend include Schwalbe, Kool Stop, Fibrax, Lusso and Altura. I don't buy premium brands so can't say whether they're worth the extra.
My LBS has advised that some Mavic wheels are particularly poor if used in UK winters so I'd think twice about buying them.
Whether it's the 7 speed stuff on my 23 y/o MTB or the 9 and 10 speed STIs and drivetrains, they are just so dependable. M520 pedals that are really cheap yet last for many years of all-weather riding and a pair of SPD shoes that just won't wear out.
Couldn't agree more! Great gear which I've been using almost exclusively since the early 70s. I'll repeat my endorsement of Aldi clothing and lights.
Although, spoke to soon. Spent the day bearding a brand new XT 8100 caliper/lever with bleed issues. Fresh out of the box, factory bled, J-kit, lever all over the place and incredibly hard to bleed. Either rock hard with no modulation or straight to the bar. Play abandoned for the day due to bad light in the end
Shimano is great when you can get it. Shimano Australia aren't all that popular with LBS here because getting parts from them can be near impossible, yet they block parallel imports so the LBS can't even source the same part from overseas just to keep their customer happy. I know an LBS who was up to 4 months and counting for a warranty replacement Nexus hub, I gave up trying to get a front roller brake. And that was before COVID-19 caused supply problems.
Same as Shimano here in Greece. Just bought brand-new Ultegra Di2 Hydro shifters to upgrade from cable discs only to find that the bolts to fix the hose to the shifter don't come with the shifter. Shimano Greece never have anything in stock so you have to get them from overseas (IE the UK) which is a minefield with postage (55 euro from SJS cycles!!!!!!) and that's only going to get worse in the next couple of weeks. Painful because things that should take days to fix end up taking weeks.