Drivers and their problems

David9694 wrote:

Drivers : cyclists should pay Road Tax etc

Also drivers : you want us to pay to use the toll bridge? L-O-L 

Fees hike at Eling toll bridge approved by Totton and Eling Town Council amid legal advice

Resident Mary Brown said exemption from the toll had been granted 40 years ago by NFDC on the grounds it was “reasonable and necessary” for residents to be able to access services and facilities in the town centre by the shortest available route.

“In that respect, nothing has changed. Parents taking kids to school, people making use of medical services, shops or the library all have to cross the bridge or make a lengthy detour.

“These services are free to other residents of Totton and to make part of the community pay is nothing short of discrimination.”

Resident Graham Gardiner added: “We have taken legal advice and are of the strong opinion that the issuance of free exemption passes is an established right and should continue in perpetuity.”

https://www.advertiserandtimes.co.uk/news/legal-delay-amid-fees-hike-at-...

Of no relevance whatsoever, but I cycle over the bridge pretty regularly - it's on my 100 mile ride from home in South London to our caravan in New Milton.  It's very pretty there.

Hirsute wrote:

Keep the old car

Shurely "True British patriots have second homes in warmer countries and fly there wooly jumpers and English Roadsters"?

I cant believe they spent nearly 4 hrs debating creating a £1 per hour car park charge, it should have been a 5min conversation at most if it needed anything more than rubber stamping.

and it still sounds like theyre creating some horrendous system so parking to pick up prescriptions will still be free somehow !?!

why do people find it so hard to understand using a car should cost them money and not be subsidised?

Not sure this thread is the place for detailed legal discussion, but I think the term would be "involuntary bailment" if you want to google it for more info. The long and short of it is the person who has come into possession of the goods (the bailee) has certain obligations regarding the goods, including keeping them safe. Simply dumping them in the street would likely by at the very least a civil tort against their owner, and potentially a criminal offence too (if deemed to be fly tipping). 

To match their IQs?

David9694 wrote:

I imagine the damage to the family's multiple cars would be even worse on unfamiliar roads as opposed to the one they all use regularly. 

I can promise them it would be even worse in Derbyshire.

OnYerBike wrote:

Not sure this thread is the place for detailed legal discussion, but I think the term would be "involuntary bailment" if you want to google it for more info. The long and short of it is the person who has come into possession of the goods (the bailee) has certain obligations regarding the goods, including keeping them safe. Simply dumping them in the street would likely by at the very least a civil tort against their owner, and potentially a criminal offence too (if deemed to be fly tipping). 

However, TIER bikes are left in the streets as part of their usual operation, so it could be argued that they are as safe in the street outside of his property as they would be anywhere else. Better to leave them where they were left by TIER though as it could be argued that moving them caused some damage.

David9694 wrote:

Then you'll know the distance from Eling village to the centre of Totton is less than a mile, but drivers will die on that hill. 

And, more seriously, where's the coverage of the closure of the cycle lane which forces you to cycle on the Totton bypass.

Sudbury has more going for it than Hadleigh but the local Sudbury councillors demanded a vote of no confidence as a result of the "shameful" decision.

https://www.eadt.co.uk/news/24244100.sudbury-councillors-brand-parking-c...

stonojnr wrote:

Sudbury has more going for it than Hadleigh but the local Sudbury councillors demanded a vote of no confidence as a result of the "shameful" decision. https://www.eadt.co.uk/news/24244100.sudbury-councillors-brand-parking-c...

It's funny how on the one hand it's all a war on the hard-working motorist while the bl00dy cyclists unfairly receive all that taxpayers' money (really?) and yet on the other hand the motorists still insist on free or insanely cheap parking for their vehicles… 

Its the story that just keeps giving, the councillor who has submitted the request to call in the decision and wants 1 hr free car parking is from the Green party!!!

https://www.eadt.co.uk/news/24247158.sudbury-hadleigh-lavenham-parking-c...

Not heard of that expression but have read some of the detail before in a different context. Does seem to relate to another person rather than a company and I thought the same as HP that the normal operation of Tier is to leave the bikes on public property, so I don't think there would be a duty of care beyond making sure there was no obstruction of the highway.

Actually as the article says people have arrived to hire the scooter, he should hire them for 1 minute and leave them in public space!

Don't TIER scooters have a geofenced area where you must leave them?  In which case, they might have ended up fining him for leaving them outside the area marked for leaving them.

Definitely in it

https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?mid=1EOMwwJ0WEDfXDSIn9tq8bWNlsg...

Hirsute wrote:

Definitely in it

https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?mid=1EOMwwJ0WEDfXDSIn9tq8bWNlsg...

Oh fair enough - I'd thought that the parking areas were drawn a lot tighter than that.

I really don't understand how drivers can hit this tree stump - it's on the pavement, it's not like it's in the middle of the road.

You have to feel sorry for this poor driver

Only to a degree! He shoud have had the sense to come to Lancashire where all this petty bureaucracy of number plates, VED, MOT etc. has long since been abandoned

brooksby wrote:

Not exactly 'drivers' problems', but I'll leave this here:

Businessman accused of 'holding e-bikes to ransom' after TIER left them at his storage firm by mistake

TIER didn't come and pick up five bikes left at Stewart Burrough's self-storage business, so he started charging them for the storage. TIER responded by calling the police

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/businessman-accused-hold...

I saw that and had mixed opinions about it as TIER aren't the best run business around, but the bloke had no right to move the bikes into his storage container and then try charging them for storage.

I think he should have informed the police/council about TIER fly tipping e-waste instead.