Australian pub accused of being ‘anti-lycra’ after turning away group of cyclists

'no football tops...on adults not currently playing a game' should be standard across the world.

I think anyone who turns up to a PUB in their kit should be ridiculed for crimes against fashion. Or, put another way, I'm with Velominatus Brett (see "The Spandex Ballet", 29 October 2014). Baggies and a mountain bike/fat bike, OK. Road bike and racing kit, no.

Australia has never really done hooligans, not like England did/does.

I didn't think that the hardcore hooligans wore football colours.

You know there are some places that ban certain labels, Liverpool is pretty keen on no Lacoste or Hugo Boss, even no polo shirts at all for some places.

Christ, I dread to think how many pairs of socks I ruined over the years by getting knocked back from clubs and bars for wearing trainers, only to go back a few minutes later with my socks over my trainers to blag my way in.

Yep, this actually worked, every time.

There's been hardly any Old Firm matches for several years though- only possible if they meet in a Cup tie. That's rather helped keep things peaceful!

The continuing ban on footie fans being served in pubs in Scotland is curious, seeing how football violence in Scotland is now at an all-time low. Even the Old Firm games aren't what they used to be in the bad old days.

Some supporters have a particularly bad reputation and having seen how the Millwall fans behave for instance, I can see why pubs would not want to allow them in the door.

Wetherspoons has a ban on footy colours - but the place in Glasgow was awash with cyclists for the CG Road Race.
OK granted not much lycra on such a wet day but...

Im not necessarily up with the licensing laws in Australia, but in the UK, pubs have a common law right to refuse to serve you, as long as they keep within things like the equalities act so dont discriminate on gender,race,disability etc etc lines, but theres no automatic right to be served in a pub.

the public house means its public bit is a popular wikipedia type grown myth, its still a private premises that youve entered under the invitation of the licensee, who can withdraw that invitation at their discretion, and through things like pubwatch schemes actually extend that refusal across other pubs if they so wish

so a pub could chose not to serve people wearing certain clothing (plenty of pubs in london put up signs about no builders boots or that tops must be worn in summer) or because theyd left bikes causing an obstruction.

in practice landlords dont do that kind of thing because they need to earn money by selling drinks to as many customers as they can. so it is unusual for them to refuse, but it doesnt mean they dont have that power.

as for the no football tops thing,thats a hangover from previous decades that Ive not encountered that frequently anymore, you tend to see pubs encouraged to split either serve home or away fans not both. But again an extension of refusing to serve you based on what you are wearing.

Or not infact actually got refused entry to a pub near a football ground once because I wasnt going to a football game, you had to show a match ticket to show you werent an away fan to get in, and as I had no ticket at all, they wouldnt let me in

Pubs in Australia are under pressure because of the shift to small bar-type establishments and new licensing laws. I'm not sure of the scene in Perth, but if the problem is the stacked bikes surely a better solution would be to provide organised racks. If I was at group HQ I'd have the pub manager on the phone asking for a full analysis of what this costs.

I've got a not giving my money to dickheads policy, I bet they're not bothered about it either.

Personally I like pubs that ban football colours and especially ones that don't allow children. That's where I choose to spend my money.

I'm sure there are people that like football and have kids that spend their money somewhere else.

I don't get why this establishment would ban lycra as such, but over christmas I was in a cafe in Austria and a group of French cyclists came in and sat at the next table and they absolutely stunk of BO. I mean they were rancid. I saw another patron complaining to the staff, and a table close to them got up and moved...we were so grossed out that we left before seeing what happened (we'd finished our strudel anyway).

Maybe this place had a similar incident. I don't get what the big deal is. Let them run their business how they see fit in order to create the best environment for their target customers.

Raffles is not that good anyway, there are much better places to go for a coffee in Perth that actively welcome cyclists.

Just publicise it. Let them have whatever policy on Lycra or jeans or whatever they want. Cyclist don't only ride bikes and wear Lycra and we don't only go to pubs and restaurants when we're wearing lycra. We have famillies and friends and we know other cyclists. Just put the word around and keep putting it around that these places don't like cyclists or their families or their mates.

Years ago when my kids were young we were hassled in a restaurant and made to feel very unwelcome. We just mentioned it to friends and people my wife met at the school gate etc. All local people with children. About a year later I was asked by the Parish Magazine to contribute something. I work in publishing (I am not a journalist though) but most people think publishing is writing. So I did a restaurant review of the best places around to eat out take the kids. Kid friendly guide. I put the place that was snooty with the kids at the bottom and slated it.

It wasn't more than a few days later that the owner of this place called me up and demanded to know who had been served so badly and why his eaterie was given such a poor review. I told him it was me and my kids that were the source of that info and that I stood by it.

You see we're sometimes not just badly served parents with kids in tow that you can be snooty with either. Businesses exist on their reputation and the cyclists around Perth need to make the reputation of this place very well known. Doesn't like sports people, sports wear, more active outdoors types, large groups or parties is a good start. All justified and fair comment on this place.

It's not four cyclist they dissed but all of us and our families and our mates. That's a lot of potential customers. Use Trip advisor and things like that as well and yes local newspapers are always short of a story.

Claiming a bike leant against a wall is a safety risk is as ridiculous as the 'no lycra' policy in the first place

bovered.
Just take your custom elsewhere... somewhere where it is appreciated.

Another negative Australian cycling story. There does seem to be a lot of them. I understand their roads are being seeded with tacks and caltrops in some areas, too, nothing done about it apparently as it's even more accepted in Australia to dislike cyclists than it is in the UK!