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1) Why can't insurers understand that asking what make and model the bike is is totally irrelevant?
After a few years the probability is that there is very little of the original bike (with the exception of the frame) left. All components are more or less interchangeable. We are habitual upgraders!
A lot of us build bikes from scratch which is even harder for them to understand. How do you evaluate the value of a bike that has been upgraded?
If I tell them of an upgrade then they up the premium; if I don't tell them of an upgrade then it invalidates the insurance.
[A sticker on the petrol tank of a motorcycle once invalidated my insurance policy.]
2) If I dare to take my bike out of the vault that I am expected to keep it in at home then I must secure it with a hundredweight of gold standard security. Why are the terms and conditions so ridiculous?
The key things for me are:
- why so expensive versus car insurance etc.
- does anyone offer a decent policy that can be rolled into my home/contents insurance as an high value added extra.
- why not take into account usage like my car policy does? A weekend leisure rider whose bikes are either locked up or being actively ridden, pays the same as someone who rides around London every day and chains their bike up outside (from what I can see).
- what is covered exactly? My bike gets nicked from my house is one thing, what if I crash and no-one is at fault apart from me? If I crash indirectly due to another road user, directly because of another road user?
- Are policies just covering the bike, or potential losses due to damage to me?
It's a can of worms IMO, and we are being fleeced because the industry has decided that any bike over £1000 is excluded from normal home or "contents while out and about" insurance.
@steve - you aren't taking into account the cost of personal injury claims on cars which far outweighs any financial risk due to theft/fire/accident damage
I want to know the answer to that question too - and I work in insurance.
I pay double to insure my 3 main bikes (including crash damage), they are in a locked, secure out building, each has £300 of anti theft chains, their own shed shackle etc. All my bikes (frames and components are tagged and registered
Oddly if my laptop was left in the same shed (and just the shed door locked) it's covered for next to nothing under my house policy as are all my camera equipment
How can I insure my bike which has an unusual 1990s Scanini Profilio frame with Colnago Precisa forks?
It's Columbus MS tubing. Whole thing kitted out with Campagnolo stuff and worth in excess of £1,000, but insurers websites have no idea what the fuck it is.
Why does it cost so much more for me to insure my bikes than it costs fully comp to insure a 4 litre TVR a VW Tiguan 13 plate and a New VW beetle, all fully comp and protected no claims. I can only drive one vehicle / bike at a time.
This is due to the insurers charging a rate of around 10% of the value of a bike to calculate the insurance premium - from their point of view, the chance of recovering or repairing a lost/crashed bike is virtually zero; so they work prices out on the assumption of a total-loss in each instance.
Cars are far more difficult to steal, and far easier to repair and trace when stolen/damaged, so this ability to recover some of their losses allows the insurers to offer lower rates.
If you don't expect a total-loss every 10 years, insurance isn't worth it & you'll probably look after the bike more carefully.
But, if you live in London or another big city, 10 years is a long time, especially if you have a Pinarello etc.
For some reason I can edit a comment, but not delete it!
That's a lame answer. Even the smallest claim on the car insurance will be more than the cost of replacing the bike. And the car insurance is far more likely to have to pay out huge third party claims for damage to property, life and limb.
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