The Arriva bus company has defended one of its drivers after a cyclist published footage to YouTube of a close pass. The author of the Mr Happy Cyclist blog said he was also tailgated by the driver who gesticulated at him as he overtook.
The incident took place on October 31 on Blackburn Road, Bolton near the junction with Halliwell Road. Mr Happy Cyclist opted to go through the junction in primary position, having had a bad experience with the cycle lane there previously – also involving an Arriva bus. However, it seems the bus driver took objection to this course of action.
In late November, Mr Happy Cyclist wrote to Arriva about the incident, saying:
“I was riding my bicycle home from the shops last Saturday afternoon. After I correctly cycled through the junction in primary position, I was tailgated by your driver who then overtook me too closely whilst gesticulating angrily at me and then moved in towards the kerb as I was still alongside. He then set his hazard warning lights flashing as he completed the manoeuvre and proceeded along the road.”
Arriva responded to say that the CCTV footage from the fixed camera on the bus had been viewed by the Bolton depot manager. In his opinion, there was a safe passing distance between the bus and the bike.
Video: Chris Boardman demonstrating safe overtaking of cyclists
The company added that it was ‘unclear’ why the cyclist had not used the cycle lane until the bus was overtaking. “The cyclist can be seen in the middle of the road, some cyclists are advised to take prime position, however his road position does appear extreme and a good part of the cycle lane has been ignored.”
As Mr Happy Cyclist points out, he is not obliged to use the cycle lane and in this instance felt that it was actually safer to avoid it. “A cyclist using it risks being caught between a large commercial vehicle and a steel fence over the apex of a sharp bend in the road where nine out of ten vehicles cut the bend.”
My Happy Cyclist believes it was an instance of road rage on the part of a driver affronted that he wasn’t using the cycle lane. He believes that switching on the hazard warning lights of the bus was an indication that moving in towards the kerb was a deliberate punishment pass.
Add new comment
43 comments
This is another example of conflict caused by crap infrastructure. The cycle path (inadequate width, sandwiched between two streams of traffic) is interrupted through the junction where it is most needed, and the carriageway is bordered by steel railings which remove any possible escape route and form a crush hazard. This is the antithesis of sustainable safety, which, among other things includes Forgivingness -- the principle that the consequences of a mistake by a road user should not be fatal. Two other principles, Homogeneity and Predictability, are also disregarded. Vehicles of different masses and different speeds should not be mixed, e.g. cycles and buses, and the provision of a cycle lane that summarily disappears when needed most, only to re-appear after the hazard, has clearly set up expectations in the bus driver (cycles should be at the left of the carriageway) that the environment does not support.
The cyclist was perfectly correct to take prime position, and do so ahead of the hazard when it was safe to move into the flow of motor traffic, and he moved back into the cycle lane as soon as he was clear of the junction and a rather large pothole in the cycle lane.
The bus driver clearly needs better education about the needs of vulnerable road users, at the very least. 0.7m is not enough passing space and it was a clear attempt to intimidate a rider using a large vehicle. Arriva should be ashamed. But let's put the primary blame where it is due -- bad road planning.
It should be noted that the place with the railings is actually the second potentially lethal part of this junction. For the cycle lane to be in that position between two streams of traffic -- those turning left and those going straight on -- the left turners must have had to move to the left across the path of cyclists going straight on, at an angle where visibility of the cyclists would have been very poor. We had an example of a collision caused by a similar situation only last week (http://road.cc/content/news/172152-video-driver-left-hooks-cyclist-upgra...). Again, the cyclist was absolutely right to move to prime position before that reaching that hazard -- and the planners were absolutely wrong to build it like that.
References:
Sustainable Safety: http://www.aviewfromthecyclepath.com/2012/01/campaign-for-sustainable-sa... (scroll past the Strict Liability section)
Junction Design: http://www.aviewfromthecyclepath.com/2011/04/state-of-art-bikeway-design...
Get Aviva to put their drivers through a Safe Urban Driving course..........they need to be educated to see a different perspective before they change their behaviour. All too frequent throught the country! Here's an example provider! http://www.outspokentraining.co.uk/training-scheme/safe-urban-driving-co...
guys its not a competition to see how close to sliding your knee down the side of a vehicle you can get before you consider it a close pass.
its a bus, its at least 18 tonnes block of metal with all the aerodynamic properties of a breeze block, that regardless of not lopping physical chunks off the cyclist is still going to have caused problems due to the turbulence of such a large vehicle at that speed passing within hand touching distance. if I can stick my right hand out and knock on the window, its too close.
it was a very obvious punishment pass, and frankly that a driver of a vehicle like that,suffers road rage in that manner, ought to make him totally unsuitable for the job he is doing.
that road has an awful surface, if its not broken bits of tarmac, there are sunken access covers, and potoles, its littered with things that can easily throw a cyclist off a bike, and the bus driver isnt giving any room to make a mistake, and a mistake at that point will cost you your life.
and its precisely stuff like that which means cycling levels will stay miserably low, my friends arent going to swap their cars for riding a bike to go toe to toe with a bus like that, you show that to a non cyclist and it will scare them off ever considering riding a bike on our roads.
and maybe it wouldnt be a daily occurence if we actually complained about it abit more.
I was mightily impressed by how much the cyclist gave space to the bus whilst overtaking it
Aw, thanks! Here's a picture showing exactly how much. Travelling at 16 mph past a stationary bus, gave far more clearance than the 30 mph bus gave the 16 mph cyclist.
Of course, the reason for not riding too close the bus is not particularly for the benefit of the bus; it is because a pedestrian might walk out in front of it.
Bicycleovertake.jpg
My own incident with a bus recently. Although the bus company agreed with my view after viewing the cameras on the bus and were going to have words with the driver, wether they did I don't know.
http://youtu.be/oRYdVFmLyP4
And now a rather happier article about this morning's interaction with an Arriva bus driver: http://wp.me/p2xK0U-jn
You think that's bad? check out this guy, running a red in a bus narrowly avoiding a cyclist - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-YBEK-JLqM
As someone who commutes into manchester 3 times a week im struggling to see what the major issue is here?? not really news is it...........
(As somone who until recently was commuting 25 miles to Salford and back 4 times a week.) Just because close passes are commonplace does not mean that they aren't an issue; however, that is not the main issue here. The headline of this article is a little misleading. The issue is not the close pass; it is the anger demonstrated by the "professional" driver as a result of a cyclist's correctly applying Bikeability cycling principles, and the bus company's subsequent attempts to excuse that. As long as we have that kind of attitude among professional drivers and their employers, cycling on our roads will continue to be a rather unpleasant experience. Unless, of course, we get some decent cycling infrastructure.
Agreed, he was a little too close and aggressive. My point is that this is just an every day occcurence and doesn't really warrant as news.
I dont use a camera but if i did i would run out of storage every day for the amount of bad driving I encounter. Maybe i'mjust desensitized to it now
One pothole to up-end that cyclist during the pass and he's under the bus.
The underlying premis of near-miss safety is that there is a direct mathematical relationship between rear misses and incidents resulting in caualties. The only difference between the two is chance. If you don't stop the near misses you won't stop the casualties.
Therein lies one of the problems of road safety. Every near-miss that does not result in a casualty positively reinforces the practice in the drivers mind as safe . It's a delusion, as the maths will always demonstrate. Drivers are simply playing russian roulette with someone else's life.
I hope you don't mind that I borrowed your text for this article: http://wp.me/p2xK0U-js
(Acknowledged of course.)
Exactly.
Some of us can live with close passes but it certainly doesn't mean we're happy about them. Far from it!
Colleagues, friends and family members all tell me that the main reason they don't cycle (or cycle more often if they ride occasionally) is the fear of traffic. Although this includes oncoming traffic, vehicles pulling out from side roads, they generally mean the drivers on their own side of the road who pass too close and too fast, even in built-up areas. They have now way of circumventing issue and it is a massive problem. How can it ever change?
Whilst I don't agree that use of the cycle lane there is particularly dangerous, I myself use it every day of the week, I do feel that there is an issue in general with bus driving in Bolton.
On Tuesday I was heading out of the town towards Manchester and found myself being tailgated by a First Bus on route 37, he passed me far closer than this on two occasions so at traffic lights I politely indicated he should give me more room.
His response was to pass even closer, pushing me into a curb.
At the next set of lights I noticed this collision had left me with two large bulges in my sidewall, so I turned home in an effort to get back, albeit very slowly.
Sadly the tyre blew immediately, leaving me with a 5km walk in rain, and a bill for tyre, tube and wheel truing.
Something does need to be done about this very poor attitude amongst bus drivers here, regardless of company, as this was far from an uncommon occurence.
A number of people seem to think that the bus was not particularly close. Whilst I have had worse (including several from Arriva buses), this bus was 60cm away at the closest point, which is too close for comfort:
The speed of the bus at that point was 30 mph, with the speed of the cycle being 16.5 mph.
There are always the macho commentators who whould consider anything more than 12 inches to be fine, but the fact that this was not a "brown trouser" moment doesn't mean it is not an issue. As some people have said, this is more about the attitude of the driver and the response of the bus company.
Cars pulling out in front of you and even blocking the two lanes when turning right from the side roads in quite normal on that stretch.
The road continues as two lanes, although not marked, for another mile or so.
This is clearly a punishment pass & I find Arriva's response staggering. Although, I do agree it was maybe not quite as bad as the riders reaction would have you believe.
The cyclist does everything right here, he takes primary position in the near side lane going through the junction & rightly so, these are locations where given two lanes, motorists often exercise poor judgement and it becomes tight to have a bike & two cars directly alongside each other, battling for the same space. He is right to take primary position to force vehicles behind him to use the offside lane only and it is clearly this that has inexcusably hacked off the bus driver. After the junction the cyclists moves back into the secondary position & despite having much more room to give the cyclist, he flicks him the bird and does a close, if not quite dangerously close, punishment pass.
The issue here is the poor conduct of the driver, he has not got the right to be hacked off about anything whatsoever here, but clearly he is & then the reaction from Arriva, is beyond poor & is downright despicable to be honest.
The cyclist is a road user and is entitled to take what he considers to be a safe line. The so-called cycle lane is merely paint on the road. The bus driver was so busy gesticulating at the cyclist, as he passed too close and failed to notice the car turning right immediately in front of the bus to the extent that he almost "T-boned" the car. His driving style was agressive with no consideration of safety zones which are of particular importance for all PCV drivers in respect of the safety and comfort of his passengers.
The driver should be relieved of driving duties and reassessed. He clearly has issues of temperament.
As a retired police officer my current knowledge of the finer points of specialist legislation is incomplete in this aspect but he must hold both a Category D licence and Driver CPC - both of which should be suspended pending review.
As a Director of a Community Transport where we believe that a driver needs support we will always restrict them from driving duties, reassess and, where appropriate, retrain to the standard that we require of all of our drivers.
It looks like there was nothing in the lane to the right.
Hazard lights might be for the car that turned right just in front ?
Crazy how the two lanes just become one - that's not right.
Could have been worse
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/public/cyclesafety/article3322652.ece
Incidentally, I've asked the Council to sort out the road markings at the start - it is hard to tell which are the current markings that have worn away, and which are the old ones that they have failed to remove !
https://www.fixmystreet.com/report/724134
The cyclist's road postion was good and correct. In a system where cyclists are forced to share the roads with buses and large vehicles, not taking the cyclelane is all too often the safest option.
It's high time the drivers of larger vehicles learn their place in the world and respect that the road is not theirs, and it never will be.
I've seen and experienced much worse. However, if I was him I'd point out to Ariva the highway code illustration about what a safe pass is meant to look like.
Crap driving defended by idiot manager. You can tell by the car following the bus how much space the bus driver should have given
I love the one constant where the defense of the motorist always refers to the cyclist as being "in the middle of the road". In every case, the cyclist is in the middle of a lane, one of many. It's interesting how often this slip of the tongue happens in story after story. It's like they're really complaining that the cyclist got in their way, but they know they can't say that.
This one time I had a woman shout at me that I'd been "all over the road".
Which had actually meant that I'd held a straight line parallel to the kerb three feet out due to the awful road surface further in (cable laying which had not been properly repaired) on a long, straight, downhill road, then indicated right and moved to the right on the approach to a mini roundabout at the end, then gone over the roundabout and on my merry. The woman close-passed me as I passed over a zebra crossing with a centre island and when we drew level at the next junction she took the opportunity to criticise my riding.
And she had clearly meant that her root complaint was simply that she hadn't seen able to overtake due to oncoming traffic and a 20mph speed limit... (which wasn't anything to do with me).
It is a bad stretch of road. The cycle lane is useless wasteof paint. It's worth pointing out the rather large crack in the lane, next to the island just before the old Motor World shop (about 10sec in), it's enough to keep me in the road.
Not so bad to get too irate, could of been wider.
That doesnt look too bad...i've had much worse........that said 99.9% of bus drivers are utter wankers - without a shadow of doubt the worst offenders on the road.
Yep. If you think Arriva drivers are bad you ain't seen Stagecoach drivers. Total c**ts. And this is coming from the perspective of being a pedestrian.
That's rather unfair. I come across some excellent bus drivers. Here are a few examples:
https://youtu.be/DkbrTvlRLG0
https://youtu.be/9N8vKV1uSjw
https://youtu.be/FJuGIFRGFmw
https://youtu.be/P2sTqfLe8Vs
... and there are many more.
Pages