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A lot of amateur cyclists “get too carried away” – Wiggins

Says the great thing about cycling is that it’s open to all

Making reference to those riding around Surrey on a Sunday, Sir Bradley Wiggins has said that cycling can be ‘a bit too elitist’. He says that one-upmanship in equipment and physical performance can detract from the simple joy of riding your bike.

Speaking to The Daily Telegraph, Wiggins said that there was an element of elitism when it came to bikes and equipment.

“You only have to look to Surrey on a Sunday morning, on the old Olympic routes, and you’ll see that even though people just cycle as a hobby, they’re not riding – they’re racing.

“This competitive edge has developed with cyclists – certainly amongst the men. It’s the new golf. You not only go out and race each other, but you also have to have the best equipment. So I think that sometimes does get a little carried away, and can actually take a lot away from the simply enjoyment of participation.”

Wiggins was speaking at the launch of a new Prudential RideLondon event. The 46-mile route, shorn of some of the more challenging climbs from the longer route, has been created specifically for younger and less experienced riders.

Wiggins – who apparently missed the memo from organisers about it not being a race – said a lot of people just loved getting on their bikes. “You obviously can’t disregard the competitive element – that’s there in every sport. But I think this new race is a testament to the demand for more enjoyable, less serious cycling.”

His advice to people is to get on a bike, “be it one you own or one borrowed from friends,” and just give the sport a try. “Then you might decide that it’s not for you – and that’s fine. But, equally, you might decide that you really like it and you want to do it every day that week.”

He added that at every level, enjoyment was the main thing.

“I mean, that’s why I’ve been cycling for almost 25 years now, and that’s why I intend to keep going for another 25. That sense of freedom is only matched by the sense of accomplishment. Because at any level – whether you’re at Olympic or Tour de France level or just going out for a ride on Sunday – when you get back in and have a shower, you can tell yourself that you’ve really achieved something. And that feels good, whether you've cycled one mile or 100 miles.”

He also said that the ability to participate in the same arena as the pros is one of the major selling points of cycling – as those riding the Olympic route perhaps prove.

“I go out cycling on normal roads all the time, and I see beginners and other cyclists who recognise me. There’s no other sport like that. You wouldn’t go down the park and see Johnny Wilkinson practising his kicks. You wouldn’t bump into David Haye next to the punch bag at your local Fitness First. But that’s the great thing about cycling, it’s open to everyone.”

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Billy1mate | 8 years ago
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Sir Wiggo does have a point but when a mate goes from a lardy hill hater where I was always waiting for him, to beating me up most hills and he waiting for me, the fun element is somewhat eroded. His dedication is admirable and his improvement is excellent, just wish I had the same dedication.

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Billy1mate | 8 years ago
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Sir Wiggo does have a point but when a mate goes from a lardy hill hater where I was always waiting for him, to beating me up most hills and he waiting for me, the fun element is somewhat eroded. His dedication is admirable and his improvement is excellent, just wish I had the same dedication.

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Billy1mate | 8 years ago
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Sir Wiggo does have a point but when a mate goes from a lardy hill hater where I was always waiting for him, to beating me up most hills and he waiting for me, the fun element is somewhat eroded. His dedication is admirable and his improvement is excellent, just wish I had the same dedication.

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BBB | 8 years ago
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A lot of celebrity know-it-all "experts" get too carried away... while offering advice and opinions about something that no one gives a **** about...

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bucklejo77 | 8 years ago
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Case in point.  I've been riding (road) for about 2 years.  When I began I was riding a Trek Antelope, I'd put on a pair of drop bar ends; it's what I could afford as I already had the bike.  I was riding 10-15 miles daily for about 4 months when I decided to ride an organized group ride to sponsor a local greenway (bike path).  At the luncheon following I overheard a conversation of a group of people,each wearing fancy kit, "Did you see that guy with the funky mountain bike with the drop bar handles?"  Fast forward, 2 months ago, finally able to afford a cf road bike, purchased from Nashbar, matte black and I like it.  I show up for a group ride at a local bike shop.  The guy who works there says, "What was that?" while nodding at my bike, just a touch of condensention in his voice.   "That sir, is my, sponsor free, not getting paid, love to ride, but don't make a six figure salary road machine that'll keep up with you on the flat and give you a run for your money on the hills today and won't make fun of anyone else riding or wearing anything that makes them happy."

 

I've come across many open-minded and accepting cyclists who are not judgemental, elitist or condesending, but many cyclists also do have an air of superiority that is unnecessary. 

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dougie_c | 8 years ago
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I agree with Bradley Wiggins on this, but I admire his frankness even when he errs.

True knowledge arises in debate, and he seems to be fairly good at kicking them off.

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Ad Hynkel replied to dougie_c | 8 years ago
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dougie_c wrote:

I agree with Bradley Wiggins on this, but I admire his frankness even when he errs.

True knowledge arises in debate, and he seems to be fairly good at kicking them off.

+1

He's no automaton sportsman, proffering inanities and bland responses.

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wanker american... | 8 years ago
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Calm Down everyone... It doesn't matter what sport you're into, there's going to be boorish snobs if you look hard enough. We cyclists, for the most part are a fairly genial lot. If you think someone is calling you an elitist jerk by pointing out that people who display certain behaviors are prone to being looked at in a certain light, you have 2 options:

1. Change your behavior and be the person you want society to perceive you as when it comes to your persona as a cyclist.

2. Give them two fingers and keep on doing what you were doing.

If you want to race your mates, go right on ahead, don't let the sensitivities of others bother you or put a damper on what makes YOU enjoy your ride. But please, If you're on a trail system with slower riders, conduct yourself accordingly. You don't own the trail/path.

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gonedownhill | 8 years ago
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I did a sprint finish against my mate when we did RideLondon last year. He means me right?

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wycombewheeler replied to gonedownhill | 8 years ago
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gonedownhill wrote:

I did a sprint finish against my mate when we did RideLondon last year. He means me right?

I think that's ok if you both know what's going on. But if you had a sprint finish while he cruised to the line thinking 'job done' then you were probably an amateur cyclist getting carried away.

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Pinarello Pirate | 8 years ago
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So, what Bradley is saying then is “pro cyclists can get carried away, but amateur cyclists can’t” ? And Elitism? . . . is that the good feeling you have when you’re on a nice bike, with a good bunch of lads and you’re feeling strong from all the hard training you’ve done when you’re not in work? Brad has been fortunate to be a successful pro cyclist, there’s no doubting his palmares – great respect to him, but competitive spirit exists on many levels. Looking back, I would have loved to have been a pro rider, but let’s face it, at 50 I think I’ve missed the boat. But this doesn’t stop me from racing my friends up the next hill and feeling good when I’m first to the top. My bike is a special thing to me, bought by my own hard earned money and not given to me by a major sponsor so I can disregard it and throw it across the road when I’m p.....d off. No, I’m sorry, I love my bike and I feel good when I’m riding it and wearing decent kit (not pro copies). We don’t think we’re better than anyone else and as a group or individuals we greet all cyclists whatever the level and whatever the bike. If we enter our sport with enthusiasm on a gleeming carbon machine, have the fire in our bellies and want to race our mates we shouldn't be labelled 'elitist' . Competition pushes us to excel and winning feels good. The only difference between cyclists is the level at which we ride, so we shouldn't be judged if we want to get carried away - we've earned the right as much as Sir Wiggins.

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brooksby replied to Pinarello Pirate | 8 years ago
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Pinarello Pirate wrote:

So, what Bradley is saying then is “pro cyclists can get carried away, but amateur cyclists can’t” ?

I think he's saying that you're allowed to get carried away if you are a real cyclist...  3

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Pinarello Pirate replied to brooksby | 8 years ago
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brooksby wrote:

Pinarello Pirate wrote:

So, what Bradley is saying then is “pro cyclists can get carried away, but amateur cyclists can’t” ?

I think he's saying that you're allowed to get carried away if you are a real cyclist...  3

 

Ah . . I get it. . . 

Think I'd better hang up my boots then. Anyone want to buy a Pinarello Dogma? 

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beigemaster | 8 years ago
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I'm sure to some extent this is related to the region of the Sportive (Surrey) rather than cyclists as a whole.

As someone who grew up down south and then moved up te' Yorkshire (and have cycled in both) I can tell you the attitudes of local riders are very different. 

Up north, as long as you're having a go then no one really cares what bike you're riding or how fast you're riding it (we're all to busy moaning about the Peak District's climbs).

I get lots of waves and greetings even when I'm (oh no) riding my hybrid with (the horror) baggy shorts with (wtf?!) unshaved legs. 

Down south- everyone seems to be taking everything far too seriously and let us not forget this story (again in Surrey) https://thelonelycyclist.wordpress.com/2015/08/16/skinny-cyclist-not-likely/ of the lady who was treated horribly by the local weekend lycra warriors. 

Hopefully the likes of Wiggo wont need to be putting this sort of 'disclaimer' ahead of the upcoming Tour of Yorkshire public ride. 

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bendertherobot | 8 years ago
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He's right, of course. Cycling is awesome. Just get out there. Though I'm not sure how he squares that with last week's definition of what cyclists are. 

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Leviathan | 8 years ago
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How much does that jersey cost, Brad?

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FrankH replied to Leviathan | 8 years ago
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Leviathan wrote:

How much does that jersey cost, Brad?

Nothing, They pay him.

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Jacobi | 8 years ago
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"That sense of freedom is only matched by the sense of accomplishment."

Absolutely spot on, Bradley.

For me that is what it has always been about - the sheer pleasure and sense of freedom you get when riding a bike..

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ChairRDRF | 8 years ago
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He actually seems to have made some sensible comments about sport/leisure cycling here. It's when it comes to cycling as a basic mode of transport where he gets it wrong: http://rdrf.org.uk/2012/08/17/disaster-waiting-to-happen-the-london-bike... and http://rdrf.org.uk/category/bradley-wiggins/

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chrismayoh | 8 years ago
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Brad's just trying to get more people out on their bikes doing something he clearly enjoys, but as soon as he opens his mouth there's someone prepared to criticise him.

 

What a shame

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szegerely | 8 years ago
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Wiggins talks a lot of crap, and Road CC has to report it. Cycling is becoming competely inane. 

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700c replied to szegerely | 8 years ago
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szegerely wrote:

Wiggins talks a lot of crap, and Road CC has to report it.

well you don't have to read it!

He's asked for his thoughts, gives them, then gets misrepresented (as per this headline) or his comments are taken out of context. Readers on here then fall for the click bait, get angry about it and so it continues

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Canyon48 | 8 years ago
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I thought the whole point of cycling was to buy the most expensive parts and kit then cycle gently with your mates to the nearest cafe, sit there for an hour, drink coffee and eat cake whilst bragging about how light and aero your latest kit is  3

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surly_by_name replied to Canyon48 | 8 years ago
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wellsprop wrote:

I thought the whole point of cycling was to buy the most expensive parts and kit then cycle gently with your mates to the nearest cafe, sit there for an hour, drink coffee and eat cake whilst bragging about how light and aero your latest kit is  3

For some people, it is. Nothing wrong with that.

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darrylxxx | 8 years ago
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He was talking truthfully, but only about a small subset of riders if you look at his comments in context. I think using "A lot..." in the headline is misleading clickbait. In the article he actually says  “A lot of the people I encounter still just love getting on their bikes”.

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a1white replied to darrylxxx | 8 years ago
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darrylxxx wrote:

He was talking truthfully, but only about a small subset of riders if you look at his comments in context. I think using "A lot..." in the headline is misleading clickbait. In the article he actually says  “A lot of the people I encounter still just love getting on their bikes”.

Agreed, as it reads you have misrepresented his comments in the headline.

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harman_mogul | 8 years ago
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Brad's point is you don't have to race to enjoy riding your bike. It's not hard to grasp.

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surly_by_name replied to harman_mogul | 8 years ago
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harman_mogul wrote:

Brad's point is you don't have to race to enjoy riding your bike. It's not hard to grasp.

 

Nobody said you did. But if some people enjoy racing (even pretend racing their mates) then good for them. 

While I appreciate this is a cycling website, the (it seems to me) increasing frequency of "Brad says stuff"/"Victoria does stuff"/"Laura thinks stuff" articles is a negative development. Mostly I don't care what Brad says. He's probably got some very sensible stuff to say about training, or winning the TdF or competing as a pro cyclist. The rest of the stuff he gets quoted on - helmets, compliance with traffic laws, not being a professional cyclist - not so much.

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jazzdude replied to surly_by_name | 8 years ago
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surly_by_name wrote:

harman_mogul wrote:

Brad's point is you don't have to race to enjoy riding your bike. It's not hard to grasp.

 

Nobody said you did. But if some people enjoy racing (even pretend racing their mates) then good for them. 

While I appreciate this is a cycling website, the (it seems to me) increasing frequency of "Brad says stuff"/"Victoria does stuff"/"Laura thinks stuff" articles is a negative development. Mostly I don't care what Brad says. He's probably got some very sensible stuff to say about training, or winning the TdF or competing as a pro cyclist. The rest of the stuff he gets quoted on - helmets, compliance with traffic laws, not being a professional cyclist - not so much.

The problem with these articles is that you get small extracts of what "Brad said" in isolation, out of context of the whole interview so it can seem that he is trying to make a particular point when he may well have been talking matter-of-factly about this or that.

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Accessibility f... | 8 years ago
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> "memo from organisers about it not being a race"

lmao.  I've never been on a sportive where there weren't packs of club cyclists vying to finish first, riding in formation at as high a speed as possible.  Nothing wrong with it, but organisers are kidding themselves if they think people won't treat their event as a race.

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