Manchester cyclist almost garrotted by booby trap

Peowpeowpeowlasers wrote:

Stretford Meadows is a part of NCN62 and while that route is generally complete rubbish, it is quite popular.

In my opinion the police should erect signage that says something like "anyone caught laying booby traps for users of these paths should expect to go to prison if caught".

But they wouldn't because most of the criminal fraternity expect they won't go to prison. Besides which, it isn't the Police that make that decision, it's the Magistrate or Judge. 

I know it is being pedantic, but putting signs up that the little sods won't / can't read isn't going to deter them, most know the system by the point they get to placing traps like that. It's hardly a first time offence to nearly garrott somebody. 

And today's winner of the most hypocritical bigot award is:

unconstituted wrote:

Put it this way, I doubt these kids came from wealthy, privileged backgrounds.

kevinmorice wrote:

And today's winner of the most hypocritical bigot award is:

unconstituted wrote:

Put it this way, I doubt these kids came from wealthy, privileged backgrounds.

 

 

Statistical fact that the vast majority of crime is from disadvantaged young men from lower socio-economic backgrounds. I worked in youth justice for years in Lewisham and never once met a teen from a rich family in the system there.

Is there a part of any of that which isn't true?

And while we're at it, do you actually know what hypocritical or bigot means. I'm guessing you don't.

unconstituted wrote:

kevinmorice wrote:

And today's winner of the most hypocritical bigot award is:

unconstituted wrote:

Put it this way, I doubt these kids came from wealthy, privileged backgrounds.

 

 

Statistical fact that the vast majority of crime is from disadvantaged young men from lower socio-economic backgrounds. I worked in youth justice for years in Lewisham and never once met a teen from a rich family in the system there.

Is there a part of any of that which isn't true?

And while we're at it, do you actually know what hypocritical or bigot means. I'm guessing you don't.

 I cycle through South Leeds (lower socia economic area) and I get abuse from random kids, ranging from having the odd can of pop thrown at me to comments shouted like 'fuck off mister' and cars with teens in slowing down to shout abuse!!!  it is beyond comprehension the mentality of some people. 

I cycle through North Leeds (in general a posher area) and I get nothing but courtesy from kids on the street, never once had any trouble. 

So yeah i'd say the generalisation is about right.

unconstituted wrote:

kevinmorice wrote:

And today's winner of the most hypocritical bigot award is:

unconstituted wrote:

Put it this way, I doubt these kids came from wealthy, privileged backgrounds.

 

 

 

Statistical fact that the vast majority of crime is from disadvantaged young men from lower socio-economic backgrounds. I worked in youth justice for years in Lewisham and never once met a teen from a rich family in the system there.

 

Is there a part of any of that which isn't true?

 

And while we're at it, do you actually know what hypocritical or bigot means. I'm guessing you don't.

There's a certain irony how KevinMorice's post follows on from a comment on how modern media streams complimentary/reinforcing sources increasing the self-righteousness and then he spams you with his ad-hominem comment because he doesn't like what you said.

If he really had a point he'd at least have stuck around to make it.

But his response is a bit indicative of exactly that malaise. People only like to read reinforcing opinion and it's far easier to react in pithy rehearsed memes than it is to really understand someone else. It's like with the Brexit vote so many of my friends said you had to be a racist or a fisherman to vote leave. But they won't understand why people voted leave if that's how they see it, and they won't connect with them if that's how they see things.

Anyway, it's amazing how quickly these forums digress. Nasty event, but given the thousands/millions of cycling journeys each year in the UK alone thankfully these stories are the minority. I remember growing up hearing of these things, so it's not like it new. There will always be malaprops out there so stay vigilant, stay safe.

Colin Peyresourde wrote:

unconstituted wrote:

kevinmorice wrote:

And today's winner of the most hypocritical bigot award is:

unconstituted wrote:

Put it this way, I doubt these kids came from wealthy, privileged backgrounds.

 

 

 

Statistical fact that the vast majority of crime is from disadvantaged young men from lower socio-economic backgrounds. I worked in youth justice for years in Lewisham and never once met a teen from a rich family in the system there.

 

Is there a part of any of that which isn't true?

 

And while we're at it, do you actually know what hypocritical or bigot means. I'm guessing you don't.

There's a certain irony how KevinMorice's post follows on from a comment on how modern media streams complimentary/reinforcing sources increasing the self-righteousness and then he spams you with his ad-hominem comment because he doesn't like what you said.

If he really had a point he'd at least have stuck around to make it.

But his response is a bit indicative of exactly that malaise. People only like to read reinforcing opinion and it's far easier to react in pithy rehearsed memes than it is to really understand someone else. It's like with the Brexit vote so many of my friends said you had to be a racist or a fisherman to vote leave. But they won't understand why people voted leave if that's how they see it, and they won't connect with them if that's how they see things.

Anyway, it's amazing how quickly these forums digress. Nasty event, but given the thousands/millions of cycling journeys each year in the UK alone thankfully these stories are the minority. I remember growing up hearing of these things, so it's not like it new. There will always be malaprops out there so stay vigilant, stay safe.

 

We had tacks and nails on the road when I was growing up too. Agree with what you said, not just because I'm critical of the same commenter, but because argument on the internet is tiresome now generally. Lacks any nuance and if you even remotely make a sympathetic comment about an opposing 'side' you get branded as being the enemy. Black or white, choose. 

I voted remain for example, but have been vocally sympathetic to Brexit for a lot of reasons. The amount of times I've been called a racist Kipper on places like the Guardian is comedy. I couldn't be any further from it. I'm probably far left compared to most people, but that doesn't mean that right wingers issues don't matter and can be brushed off. 

Tangent but whatever. This was a nasty attack, hope they catch the guy and he isn't too traumatised. The worst part of this sort of thing is that victims can take it personally and it really isn't. He was just unlucky.

Colin Peyresourde wrote:

[...]There will always be malaprops out there so stay vigilant, stay safe.

 

Eh? But concur on the subsequent exhortation.