Sustrans works to make cycle paths more accessible with removal of motorcycle barriers

Mr Agreeable wrote:

I love the withering disdain road.cc commenters have for Sustrans, an organisation that is still leagues ahead of anyone except the Cycling Embassy of Great Britain when it comes to setting out an inclusive vision of cycling for all.

If anyone needs filling in, their policy on access controls is here: http://www.sustrans.org.uk/about-us/our-position/our-position-use-access...

I wonder how many new cycle routes the commenters have created. Tonnes, I expect.

Ooh, you cheeky straw man.

I have personally dug a ring-road of shared-use paths with my bare hands, specifically to qualify to criticise sustrans in these circumstances. (I think I measured the paths in miles, not by weight, but I get your drift.)

I trust you have personally built paths with nuisance obstacles, then criticised and removed said obstacles, in order to qualify to criticise people criticising sustrans for the nuisance obstacles.

DaveE128 wrote:

I think people are being unfair to Sustrans here. They don't specify these things in the first place - it's the local councils that do that when implementing the routes.

Yes they do (well it's the council's name on the document but they basically specify what Sustrans tell them to).

And I've had that from both a Sustrans employee and a Council employee responsible for the NCN routes in the borough.

We know there's no-one else doing what Sustrans do - but they could be specifying much better infra. It's right to be critical of an organisation that mostly has a monopoly advising the concils and is helping them deliver mostly sub-standard developments and then washing their hands of any responsibility.

Edgeley wrote:

It isn't Sustrans that have done this, is it?  It is the local authority.

Sustrans agree to every nonsense that local authorities put in, and now they appear to be trying to get the credit when a local authority makes things better.

But that is Sustrans' modus operandi.  Do little but take the credit for the whole thing.  And blame the local authority for anything wrong.

gmac101 wrote:

I use some shared paths without motorcycle barriers and as a result the odd scooter and biker is not a rare sight. Where they offer a useful cut through that avoids heavy traffic I suspect they'll appear pretty quickly. 

True.  But I read the headline and thought they were talking about *all* a-frames, not just the ones on a single specific route.

burtthebike wrote:

What nonsense is this?  Sustrans listening to cyclists?

Fake news.

Sustrans don't listen to the cyclists who complain about the enormous amount of very slippery and dangerous leaves on the loop line.  Apparently, we're supposed to go down there with a broom and clean it up ourselves.

Peowpeowpeowlasers wrote:

Sustrans don't listen to the cyclists who complain about the enormous amount of very slippery and dangerous leaves on the loop line.  Apparently, we're supposed to go down there with a broom and clean it up ourselves.

I reported a fallen tree across a cycle path to my local Sustrans office a week ago.  On Saturday I was pleasantly surprised to fine the tree had gone.   They are not all bad

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Peowpeowpeowlasers wrote:

Sustrans don't listen to the cyclists who complain about the enormous amount of very slippery and dangerous leaves on the loop line.  Apparently, we're supposed to go down there with a broom and clean it up ourselves.

I reported a fallen tree across a cycle path to my local Sustrans office a week ago.  On Saturday I was pleasantly surprised to fine the tree had gone.   They are not all bad

Hw do you know it was sustrans who were responsible, it could have quite easily and more likely been another organisation.

Milkfloat wrote:

. . wrote:

Peowpeowpeowlasers wrote:

Sustrans don't listen to the cyclists who complain about the enormous amount of very slippery and dangerous leaves on the loop line.  Apparently, we're supposed to go down there with a broom and clean it up ourselves.

I reported a fallen tree across a cycle path to my local Sustrans office a week ago.  On Saturday I was pleasantly surprised to fine the tree had gone.   They are not all bad

 

Hw do you know it was sustrans who were responsible, it could have quite easily and more likely been another organisation.

Well, it's only another anecdote, but I had a similar experience of reporting a fallen tree across a sustrans route, not a public right of way and on forestry commission land, so I suspect it was them that got it sorted. Of course the way that Sustrans works, I don't think they send out their own staff with chainsaws, but they work with others to make things happen.