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Simply cos since Condor stopped making their own frames they've always imported handbuilt Italian frames - they're a shop that's always been noted for a certain Italianess - I used to live across the road from their shop and I always thought it was an Italian business. There are probably just enough artisan builders left in northern Italy to mean it's still cost effective for Condor to source their frames from that part of the world. There just aren't the numbers of British framebuilders producing in the sorts of numbers and at the sorts of prices that an outfit like Condor would need. Plus a lot of the British builders that remain (well, the bigger names) are more associated with touring bikes than the sorts of sporting models that Condor tends to sell.
sod 'colourway' is there any reason why these frames had to be made in Italy and not by British frame builders???
The point on colourway is that it isn't a word made up by marketing or fashion types, it just happens to be used by them… and me. Seems to me all your problems are with it's associations with said marketing and fashion types - what's wrong with 'em?
Some of my best friends are marketing and fashion types lovely people one and all, and 'colourway' is a perfectly functional and acceptable word - so I'll keep on using it.
doesn't she have any trainers?
it's true, "thankyou" is technically wrong, but "colourway"?
bikeylikey has a reasonable point: if the SOED hasn't got it, it probably is a bit bollocks, really - never mind your parvenu johnny-come-lately Chambers dictionaries!
My real objection to 'colourways' is this: when I read road.cc normally, i get to enjoy nice, clear, well-written stuff that doesn't make me focus on the wrong thing. I sat here and asked myself "what's a colourway?" My teenage niece had no idea, either ...
Anyway, thankyou (ahem) for listening!
maybe i'll think up some more. Geometryway? Componentryway?
crayons - please don't write 'thankyou' as one word. It's two words.
bikeylikey - 'cringeworthy'? is that in your dictionary?
allow yourself to get tied up in semantics and the perceived benefits of one perfectly acceptable and lucid word over another, and you'd never get any work done.
1. colourway
A term, used by trainer fashionistas, to describe a particular colour combination used in the design of an item of footwear. Also used by said cognoscenti to identify those in the know (obsessive seekers of elusive, very limited colourways) from mere mortals (those foolish enough to buy any old mass-produced colourway).
From 'The Urban Dictionary', online.
The 'Shorter Oxford Dictionary' is two huge volumes in small type, called 'Shorter' because it has a third fewer entries than the full 14 volume OED.
I'm still amazed that it's even in Chambers or Collins. Of course it's 'made up', all words are, but this is made up fairly recently by fashion or marketing types attempting to make up jargon to increase their clubbiness.
Dictionaries are 'retrospective', i.e. they define words already in the language, they aren't 'prescriptive', i.e. don't tell you what is permissable or not, that's up to the users, then dictionaries follow use. Marketing and fashion inventions like 'colourway' are objectionable to many people, whether they are in some dictionaries or not.
This is getting far from bikes! Love the Condor colour schemes, not sure about the 'retro' quill headsets. And if you wanted an 'Italian Classic' wouldn't you go for a Cinelli or Bianchi or something, rather than a London maker? Who is the 'target market'? What is the 'customer demographic'? (Objectionable marketing terms in quotes).
Well, it's in my 15 year-old edition of Chambers and my 30 year old Collins Concise so hardly a new or made up. Doubt that it was a new entrant even 30 years ago + there's all the time a word needs to be in use before it even gets in.
Maybe you need a longer dictionary
I like the coloured bits.
colour scheme?
Please stop using the word 'colourway'
Five colours are matched by.... works just fine thankyou
Ah, but 'colourway' refers to a combination of colours, for example the blue and white in the pic, rather than the blue itself
And it's in the dictionary
What dictionary is that then? I thought 'I'd be amazed if that's in the dictionary', so amazed I actually got up and got the Oxford Shorter English Dictionary off the shelf. The Oxford series is pretty definitive, I'd say. It is not in there.
I agree with Simon. As far as I'm aware, it's a cringeworthy commercial newly invented shopping word, supposed to sound cool or something. What's wrong with Colour scheme?
Is it just me or does the whole celebration of Condor's 'heritage' just seem a bit pointless with italian factory made frames? Got to keep the Londoners spending though I guess.