Lorry driver's 'good character' sees him spared from jail sentence over cyclist's death

I stumbled accross this and have to comment as its close to my heart. My mum was Dennis Peachey's girlfriend. They lived together. 16th August, 3 years ago, on my poor mum's birthday, I get a phonecall from mum clearly distraught I could barely understand her. She had just got to work and two policemen had to give her the news that Den had been killed. By a lorry. She was devastated. She couldn't bare to live in flat they shared anymore, she's had alot of councelling and she still misses him. This polish lorry driver may feel bad every day for the rest of his life but my mum lost her best friend, her soulmate, her home and every birthday she has she feels she can't celebrate as the tradegy happened on that day. Can you imagine having the police giving mum his pocessions back that he was wearing. His watch that had deep scratches on it from the collision? Heartbreaking...... That polish c*** should rot in hell for what he done to Den and the effects its had on my mum.

I stumbled accross this and have to comment as its close to my heart. My mum was Dennis Peachey's girlfriend. They lived together. 16th August, 3 years ago, on my poor mum's birthday, I get a phonecall from mum clearly distraught I could barely understand her. She had just got to work and two policemen had to give her the news that Den had been killed. By a lorry. She was devastated. She couldn't bare to live in flat they shared anymore, she's had alot of councelling and she still misses him. This polish lorry driver may feel bad every day for the rest of his life but my mum lost her best friend, her soulmate, her home and every birthday she has she feels she can't celebrate as the tradegy happened on that day. Can you imagine having the police giving mum his pocessions back that he was wearing. His watch that had deep scratches on it from the collision? Heartbreaking...... That polish c*** should rot in hell for what he done to Den and the effects its had on my mum.

Some really good points & opinions on here, but no one has picked upon the one fact that as far as that court was concerned the cyclist's life was "worth" £500 That is the most disgusting thing as far as I am concerned.

The law is indeed an ass and insults public highway users who fall foul of dangerous lunatics. The **** who almost killed my wife in a hit & run appeared in court on his 7th driving offense with previous drug offenses, he was already banned from driving, he got some community service, a £120 fine which he was allowed to pay £10 per month and another ban, gosh that will really put him off driving illegally again. My wife is physically and psychologically scarred for life and is due a fourth facial operation but is lucky to be alive. I think if I ever see the **** I will just run him over, what's the worse that could happen I have a good character?

Killed a pesky cyclist? Ah well I'm sure you didn't mean to old chap, goodness knows they are like flies buzzing around, no wonder the odd one might get squished under your 18 wheels.

Here's a wee fine and on you go. Now, do try not to do it again if you can.

I don't understand. What's being an 'experienced' cyclist got to do with anything?

Yet another example showing that, in the UK at least, if you really want to kill someone just get in your car and run them over. So much easier to get away with a lenient sentence than shooting, stabbing or use of any other offensive weapon! Don't know why more haven't cottoned on to it......

Maybe there should be a requirement that all judiciary undergo rigorous cycle-commuting experience in our congested cities before they are allowed to sit on any form of legal bench. I'm convinced most of these people's real life experience in such matters is minimal, hence the derisory sentences regularly handed out.

Why aren't we seeing ferocious lobbying by the likes of the CTC, LCC etc to change the law?

Trouble is these ****'s know they can get away with it so take no care around cyclist's. Yesterday some **** with an oversized lorry with the hugest trailer I have ever seen, (frankly looked an illegal length) cut right in on us when we were out on a training ride. I was at the front of the group and had I not "held my line" it could have spoiled what was otherwise a really nice ride. The driver would've got £150 costs and two weeks community service. Until the law changes nothing will get any better, drivers need to know they will be held accountable or they will continue to treat us with no more respect than they would a rabbit. I'm moving to Holland, shame its a bit flat but as I get older thats probably no bad thing

So, Simon;
no difference at all then. Just an opportunity for a judge to pass a lower sentence.

I have been emailing politicoes on behalf of 38degrees. Heard of them? I'll have a word with them to see if they are interested.

Actually, it is a very heavy sentence for UK Courts.

The guy who drove too fast on icy roads with bald tyres (and remember tyres don't suddenly become bald, they take a long time) and killed the 4 cyclists at Rhyl a few years ago was only fined £60 per life. He never even bothered to go to court. He just pleaded guilty to driving with defective tyres.

The senior copper who was interviewed at the scene didn't seem to think it was even unreasonable to drive that speed in those conditions on bald tyres.

We are a long way off where we need to be in terms of punishment/deterrence, but look where we started from!

I feel so angry about this attitude that the motor car is king.

So what should be done to increase the pressure on the legal system to change the way those responsible for deaths due to driving are judged?

Letters to MP's?

E-Petitions?

Angry forum posts?

In all seriousness, what is the best route to raising the priority of this?

Disgusting - His community service should be to ride a bike during rush hour

Wonder if theyll bring in a charge of careless shooting.....I fancy a gun.
Going by the standards set out for drivers, I can shoot in randomly, as long as I don't actually mean to kill someone i should get off if someone happened to walk into the path of one of my bullets???

Shame on this country's judiciary system.

As cyclists in the eyes of judges our lives are worthless that do require being protected.

I say get these stupid old cronies out on a bike for a week. They'll soon change their attitude.

Thats just the kind of thing i was thinking MercuryOne, There should be a "minimum" limit, a bit like when the judge sentences a murderer to a minimum for 15 years on a life sentence. The law should be in place where someone found guilty of "causing death on a public highway" should be getting X amount of time and thats that.

Lets just say a cyclist was riding along carelessly and happened to hit someone crossing the round, knock them down and kill them, what would be the charge? I bet you anything it would be a harsh sentence, but knock someone down while behind the wheel of a vehicle, then you don't seem to get anything near enough because they think banning you from driving for a certain time is better than jail

It should be like knife crime is supposed to be. It's all about genuine mandatory sentencing. If a driver is found guilty of causing a death through reckless or careless driving ( what is the distinction btw?) then a simple 5 year sentence (without 50% parole for good behaviour) and a 5 year ban following release should apply. As a nation we can't encourage consideration of others unless the ultimate penalty for not showing consideration is unequivocal. You are banged up for 5 years and off the road for 10.

A simple solution such as this is often met with a 'yeah but what if..' or a 'our current system doesn't allow..' but to me it really is that simple. Until recently politicians were terrified of upsetting Murdoch. I hope they're pandering to the great British motorist changes as well.

"Not a day goes by without him thinking of Mr Peachey. My client will live with the consequences for the rest of his life." yes but probably not as much as the family he has destroyed will. why wasn't her statement read out in full? was it because his partner was vitriolic about the court, the murderer or the cps? or was it because "its only a cyclist so who really cares".

absolutely disgusting, the law in this country is indeed an ass ...

Exactly and thats why the law in my view should be changed, there should be one charge for all who cause a death while driving, i'm not in favour or the careless or dangerous ones

It should just be made simple, Causing death on a public highway, I don't care how its caused, there is no need for deaths on the roads apart from in extreme weather conditions or something where the driver can take NO blame, if there is any blame attached to the driver, then the law should be one and the same whether it was careless, reckless, dangerous or purposely

"Not a day goes by without him thinking of Mr Peachey. My client will live with the consequences for the rest of his life."

I would think he would think even harder about it from a cell.

Playing driver's advocate here, he was convicted of careless driving not the more serious offence of dangerous driving.

None of us has seen all the evidence but there doesn't appear to be a suggestion that the CPS took the easy route.

So assuming the charge was appropriate it is reasonable to have their previous record taken into account. Clearly the judge gave serious consideration to a custodial sentence (which was in fact imposed, but suspended).

I'm all for serious sentences on dangerous drivers, and agree the ban could have been longer, but we can't always assume that drivers deserve the worst punishment. Sometimes the law works in certain ways for good reasons.

Sadly none of it will do anything to bring back the poor victim.

Ah but then there is the other side Paul, If the only "skill" he has is lorry driving for work, he'll just go onto benefits, get his rent paid, fortnightly money from the benefits office and serve his 18 month ban while living off the state

Not that i'm saying he's going to do that, but if he did, that would cost alot more than just banging him up inside for a few years, also, is he a native of this country? If not and this is just guessing by his name, he's polish, he could quite easily, pay the fine and leave the country, even not pay the fine and still leave, plus he'd get X amount of his tax back when leaving like all foreign nationals do, then go home and drive on his countries roads with a driving license from his own country

If anything the driving ban is even more insulting - you could argue why waste taxpayer's money feeding the guy in prison, but allowing him ever to drive a truck again is mad.

As far as I can tell from the DfT website, anyone with an ordinary driving licence can drive vehicles up to 7.5 tonnes with trailers which take the combined weight to 12 tonnes. No need for a specific HGV licence. It should be possible to impose a lifetime ban on larger vehicles (Category C or C1, 3.5-7.5t) or on driving altogether.

We don't permit sex offenders to work with children, ever again. Similar should apply to driver-killers.