Floyd Landis reaches deal with prosecutors over Floyd Fairness Fund fraud charges

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It appears to me that the majority of the case against Armstrong is based on testimony from Landis and others like him - most of whom are proven cheats and liars.

We don't actually know what their evidence is, but apparently it will all be made public once USADA have finished with the others involved in the case

{quote]if they have positive proof that Lance doped during his reign of seven Tour titles then they should publish it, if not they should shut the hell up.[/quote]

As above. Actually, whether LA himself doped isn't that key to USADA's case; the conspiracy to dope and to incite others to dope is actually more important. As such a positive test isn't really required. Nor did Millar, Rasmussen, Basso or Valverde test positive, but all served doping bans.

[quote}For USADA to publicly announce they are going to strip him of his wins is bulls!!t as they do not have the jurisdiction to do so.[/quote]

They do. A Texan court says so, and the UCI agree.

Andy

It appears to me that the majority of the case against Armstrong is based on testimony from Landis and others like him - most of whom are proven cheats and liars. It amases me that the US legal sysyem can condemn a man on their say so and if they have positive proof that Lance doped during his reign of seven Tour titles then they should publish it, if not they should shut the hell up. For USADA to publicly announce they are going to strip him of his wins is bulls!!t as they do not have the jurisdiction to do so.

At 1 dollar a week, frankly if he was run over, wouldn't shed a tear!

It's hard to feel too much sympathy for ol' Floyd. If he'd been offered a contract by Shack he'd have happily taken the money with no qualms.

Still, he did the right thing in the end (albeit with his back completely to the wall) and he's a salutary lesson to other dopers:- 'fess up and don't try and con everyone.

Whoa whoa poor Landis????

FFS this guy set a fund to defend his honour knowing full well he'd cheated. He fraudulently took over $1m in donations.

He failed a dope test.

He's lucky he isn't serving jail time.

No comparison to the Armstrong saga.

This isnt about did he or didnt he - everyoen else was doing it or any other doping rant.

The guy commited fraud in 'asking' for money to support his legal challenge to prove his innocence.....

Then he pleaded guilty all along!

Never mind the doping.

What he did was the lowest fo the low and he knows it and will spend a lifetime coming to terms with it, if he actually can.

For that, I feel sorry for him.

For gettin away lightly by only having to repay the donations back, i feel cheated again by a legal system that selectively dishes out punishment. Glad I dont live in the good ol US of A.

Shame on the US legal system yet again.

It is a mess and Landis has my sympathy. I do wonder how many of his competitors were doping at the time and suspect it was rather more than we have found out about.

While I don't like cheating I can't help feeling Landis has taken more than his fair share of blame and that otehrs are ducking below the parapet.

What a contrast between Landis and Armstrong. You feel Armstrong will be able to weather the storm, while maintaining a 'good' lifestyle, and poor Landis will stay, well, poor (financially).

A good book deal to come clean and name and shame every corrupt person linked to his drug use might help repay the individuals who funded his court battle (as well as paying for his current crop of lawyers).

A double-whammy of shame on cycling today!

I feel sorry for the guy. The humiliations keep being heaped on him.

I actually wish him the best. He's had to pay dearly for what he has done. I hope he can move on and live a happy life.