Phil Liggett: "They all seemed to have been cheating"

Let me emphasize, I DO think they have a solid case that he doped just through the testimony of George Hincapie. USADA has the authority to punish (banning, stripping titles upto some time limit) for doping.

But I think that the charge of forcing others to take to dope should be resolved in a court of law. It is a much more serious crime.
As far as the media goes, these two charges are one and the same.
The media makes a terrible judge.

WADA announced yesterday that they were considering a grand amnesty for past offences (except for Lance). Is that really sensible? It seems to me that they are choosing to magnify a single case so that they can forget about the rest. I can see it is convenient, but it is right? I don't think so.

Compare this to what the Italians have been doing. They have spent a couple of years monitoring the doping trade, following the money, bugging and taping hard evidence. They are about to come out with the charges now. It is real hard boiled police work.

OK, who unplugged Phil Liggett from the Matrix? He can't take it, he is too old. Quick, plug him back in, so he can live out his remaining years on a continual loop of 1999 to 2005.

He's a UCI Commissaire, fully qualified in willful blindness, it's a prerequisite for the job apparently, just look at Pat and Hein, he fits in perfectly.

Phil Liggett said he could PROVE the allegations he made in august. He was not one of the people lied to, just one of the liars. The idea that he never noticed anything over the years as the "Voice of Cycling", not to mention the UCI's youngest ever commissaire, is quite simply beyond belief. If Phil didn't see anything, it's because he made damn sure he was looking the other way!

stupid old c&unt, what an absolute idiot, the things he comes out with, he is a cycling commentator, worse luck, and he really hasn't got a clue ......dear oh dear

pepita: Lance has $8m+ reasons to continue denying ($7.5m he got from SCA after they lost their case to not pay his bonus because they believed he'd doped, and reputed $600k odd libel settlement from The Sunday Times for printing excepts from David Walsh & Pierre Ballester's "LA Confidentiel" - the details of which became the backbone of the USADA case). Oh, and there's also possibly a prison cell waiting, because he perjured himself in at least the SCA case.

Well, I think pressure was put on the witnesses to be forthcoming...it was a grand jury subpoena after all!

I, too, believed that Lance was being persecuted by an overzealous US government agency trying to justify spending taxpayer money.on a case the justice dept gave up on. I believe in innocent until proven guilty and not the other way around. But the evidence is out and it is not looking good for Lance even though he remains adament that he didn't dope. I almost feel sorry for Lance and wonder if he might be mentally ill in some way because his continued denial is pathological!

I'm now starting to feel sorry for Phil. Surely though to be that deep in cycling and not notice is careless at best. The writing has been on the wall for years.