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Andy Murray slams cycling for lack of skill and too many drugs… not like tennis

Yet another top star from another sport neglects to leave glasshouse before throwing stones

Andy Murray, the world number three ranked tennis player, says his sport needs to step up its anti-doping efforts including out-of-competition testing – but maintains that tennis differs from cycling in being primarily focused on the skill of the athlete, something he believes doesn’t apply in cycling, which he claims is more about physical attributes.

“I think there's very little skill involved in the Tour de France, it's pretty much just physical," said Murray, quoted in the Herald. "A lot of the way the teams work now is just science whereas with tennis, you can't teach the skill by taking a drug.

"Virtually the whole of the Tour de France was taking drugs 10 years ago,” he maintained, claiming that since 1990 tennis had seen around “65 positive tests, 10 of them recreational and 30 to 35 performance-enhancing in that time.”

The Olympic and US Open men’s singles champion, speaking in a press conference ahead of this week’s Paribas Paris Masters that was reported by Mail Online and The Herald, added in a sweeping generalisation that apparently went unchallenged: “In one year of the Tour de France you had more than that so I don't think tennis has been that bad. But that isn't to say that more can't be done to make it 100% sure there are no issues."

Admittedly, in the notorious Festina Tour of 1998, there was clear evidence of wholesale doping involving a number of teams, and fewer than half the riders who set out from Dublin finished the race in Paris due to expulsions and withdrawals, but not a single rider actually tested positive.

The truth is that with no test for EPO at the time, the riders had an advantage over the testers, and it was only by seizing the physical drugs that the authorities were able to unravel the scale of the problem.

While cycling clearly still isn’t rid of doping, and in all likelihood never will be, there is a much higher level of testing than is the case in tennis. However, Murray implies that due to the nature of their sport, tennis players have less to gain from using performance enhancing drugs, although there are longstanding rumours linking several leading tennis players to use of steroids in particular to help build their strength.

In the past, he has criticised the intrusiveness of random testing, but now believes it is essential to combat doping, especially in the off season.

“The out-of-competition stuff could probably get better,” admitted the 25-year-old, who revealed he himself had been subject to a random blood test at the weekend.

“When we’re in December, when people are training and setting their bases, it would be good to do more around that time.

“On Saturday night it was completely random and that’s good because we’re not used to doing many blood tests.

“I’ve probably had four or five blood tests this year, but a lot more urine, so it’s obviously completely necessary when you hear things like about [Lance] Armstrong.

“It’s a shame for their sport but how they managed to get away with it was incredible, for so long.”

Critics of tennis’s approach to doping argue however that that the sport must do much more to address the issue and that it does far too little testing particularly of top players.

In 2010, for example, a year that Murray spent ranked between third and fifth in the world, he did not undergo a single out-of-competition test.

During the same year, there were no out-of competition tests on three of the top five ranked women’s players – world number one Caroline Wozniacki, plus Venus and Serena Williams. 

Earlier this month, an article on the website of the US magazine Tennis Now explored various hypotheses regarding doping in tennis and pointed out that while according to World Anti Doping Agency Statistics for the period from 2007 to 2011, the International Tennis Federation showed 53 positive tests, there were only 21 anti-doping rule violations recorded in the same period.

The magazine quoted the blog Tennis Has a Steroid Problem as asking: “What accounts for the difference between positive tests and violations? Did players have Therapeutic Use Exemptions allowing them to use a banned substance? Did their 'B' Sample test negative? Did a tribunal find that the players did not commit a violation? If so, what was the reason for their finding?”

While high profile doping cases in the sport remain few and far between – the biggest in recent years being when the American player Wayne Odesnik was caught red-handed with human growth hormone at Brisbane airport, eventually serving a 12-month ban, reduced from an original two years – tennis itself is now facing some uncomfortable questions.

In August, when former US Postal Service team doctor Luis Garcia del Moral was handed a lifetime ban by the United States Anti-Doping Agency, the ITF acknowledged that he had worked with “various tennis players.”

It said that it would help enforce and give effect to USADA’s decision, including “not permitting Dr Garcia del Moral to participate in any capacity in, and denying him accreditation for or access to, any sanctioned tennis event or activity.”

The ITF added: “Players are asked to take careful note of the above when considering who to seek treatment, guidance and advice from in the future.”

Also in Spain, Dr Eufemiano Fuentes, the sports physician at the centre of the Operacion Puerto scandal in which athletes sanctioned were almost exclusively cyclists and non-Spanish nationals, has maintained in the past that he counted tennis players among his clients.

Whether he will name names or provide further details of his activities when the case goes to trial in Madrid in the new year remains to be seen.

Simon joined road.cc as news editor in 2009 and is now the site’s community editor, acting as a link between the team producing the content and our readers. A law and languages graduate, published translator and former retail analyst, he has reported on issues as diverse as cycling-related court cases, anti-doping investigations, the latest developments in the bike industry and the sport’s biggest races. Now back in London full-time after 15 years living in Oxford and Cambridge, he loves cycling along the Thames but misses having his former riding buddy, Elodie the miniature schnauzer, in the basket in front of him.

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timbola | 12 years ago
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Oh dear, Mr Murray, yet more monotonic drivel from somebody who should, perhaps, let his tennis-playing speak for him instead of his mouth.
Operacion Puertool por favor  3

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Colin Peyresourde | 12 years ago
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I think there are a few too many reactionary comments here. But I do believe that professional sports around the globe have a problem with drugs. Tennis being no exception.

I had to laugh at the first comment about the 'Williams Brothers'. But more seriously, it struck me, in light of the tennis player being caught with Human Growth Hormone (HGH) that one of the side effects of its use is buckling of the teeth. Adult users are then forced to use braces to correct their teeth. I seem to remember both Williams sisters wearing them in their early careers. And didn't Andy Murray have them? It's not a sure sign, but it is rather strange that these dental problems were not fixed until adulthood.

The major problem is not cycling, but rather a lack of impetus by authorities to develop a serious anti-doping program that works. There is a lot to be sceptical about with Tennis, cycling and lots of other sports.

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kitkat | 12 years ago
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+1 sponican. Getting cyclists worked up over nothing is like shooting fish in a barrell. It's embarrassing to see the same righteous indignation reaction every time.

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RacePace | 12 years ago
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Has he read this?

Idiot!!!! Glass houses or what!

http://bikepure.org/2012/10/cycling-serves-an-ace-against-tennis/

What a complete tool he is!

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Jimmy Ray Will | 12 years ago
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I think it'd pretty widely accepted that tennis has a significant problem with drugs, and much like the UCI today, tennis' governing body may find their current actions to combat their doping issues will be perceived as complicity at best in years to come.
With that in mind, Murray's comments are either delivered with a mind numbing amount of blinkered ignorance, or there are darker forces/motivations at work here. Either way I find it worrying.
That said, he is right, tennis is more skill and less physical when compared to cycling. However it is still all physical skill. I mean by that, that it is a physical effort to hit a ball hard, to run and take a shot etc etc. What is key to this is that with physical effort comes fatigue. When learning a skill, what makes you better is repetition... The more you do it, the better you get.
With that in mind, anything that can help you train harder and longer will be just as useful to your competitive performance as any drugs used in cycling. So Murray is probably right, come match day, they'll mainly be clean, as all their doping takes place in training.

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antonio | 12 years ago
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Another tennis player talking balls!!

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Nick T | 12 years ago
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And yet the reason always trotted out for the dominance of the top 3 tennis players is their superior stamina over the course of a 5 set Grand Slam. Why can't any other player work on their endurance the same way?

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georgee | 12 years ago
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Chin up though, after buying a Gold Medal and getting a grand slam because all the good players were having a day off your failure to get SPOTY is sealed again.

Oh yes, and stop trying to grow a beard, you can't!

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cavmem1 replied to georgee | 12 years ago
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He will never win SPOTY anyway you need to have a personality to do that

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Gary613 | 12 years ago
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Roll on Scottish Independence, we won't have to say Murray is GB Tennis Player.
We can just call him chip on the shoulder, miserable, bad advert for Scotland Tennis Player.

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Roberj4 replied to Gary613 | 12 years ago
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Gary613 wrote:

Roll on Scottish Independence, we won't have to say Murray is GB Tennis Player.
We can just call him chip on the shoulder, miserable, bad advert for Scotland Tennis Player.

forgot to mention vastly over paid, never smiles (wonder what his girl friend sees in him $$$$ - sorry I forgot) and to have your mummy follow you around every match day to change his diaper!

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sponican | 12 years ago
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Don't get hung up on it - he's probably right about the significance of skill in tennis vs cycling. What's the problem with that?

Cycling does require a lot of skill but at the top level (apart from some exceptional cases) bike handling skills tend to be fairly uniform. Therefore physical attributes and fitness tend to become the significant differentiators. In tennis it is not uncommon to see a very fit player beaten by a very skilled player - that won't tend to happen in endurance sports.

Put simply - tennis is a game and turns on skill, cycling is a sport and turns on physical ability. That doesn't make one better than the other, it just makes them different.

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Tony Farrelly replied to sponican | 12 years ago
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I agree don't think there's too much to be gained by getting bent out of shape over Murray's comments re the relative levels of skill required for cycling and tennis, he's spent his life immersed in tennis and clearly doesn't have much of an appreciation of what is required to succeed at the top level in other sports, but if you are going to open your mouth and say stuff like this at a press conference expect it to get reported - especially by a cycling website. The other reason for including his remark on skill is that it underscores the naivety of he remarks about drugs. Murray also explicitly makes the link between skill and drug use.

I don't know much about tennis but it seems to me that fitness and stamina do play a greater part in a player's success at the very top level - isn't greater strength and stamina the attributes which are often cited as being key to Nadal and Djokovic's success against other top level players and wasn't a lack of relative strength and stamina given as a reason for Murray's failure to win key games against top players in the past?

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therevokid | 12 years ago
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tennis ? Skill ?? ... like smash the ball as hard as
possible so the other player can't hit it whilst
making stupid grunting noises skill ????

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djcritchley | 12 years ago
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Choke!
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Bob's Bikes | 12 years ago
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As Theincrediblebike says jumping on the band waggon, but which waggon? the I hate cycling one or the I can make a stupid comment on something I know very little about just like a footballer  39

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Karbon Kev | 12 years ago
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Not a tennis fan, never will be. cycling requires a lot more stamina, strength and technique than tennis ever will. Words of a fool imo.

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Campag_10 | 12 years ago
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If Andy Murray thinks there's no skill required let's see him get on a bike and see how competitive he is.

If he's fit enough to play a five hour tennis match he should be able to cope with five hours in the saddle.

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mingmong replied to Campag_10 | 12 years ago
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Campag_10 wrote:

If Andy Murray thinks there's no skill required let's see him get on a bike and see how competitive he is.

If he's fit enough to play a five hour tennis match he should be able to cope with five hours in the saddle.

He wouldn't get the lid on with that barnet!  19

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caketaster replied to Campag_10 | 12 years ago
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Campag_10 wrote:

If Andy Murray thinks there's no skill required let's see him get on a bike and see how competitive he is.

If he's fit enough to play a five hour tennis match he should be able to cope with five hours in the saddle.

think you might have just proved his point there mate. if you're really fit you can probably cycle fairly well - he'd beat most of us in a road race, him being a pro-athlete - but i'd bet my house that none of us could take a set off him in tennis.

stop being so reactionary, he's right about the skill level and he's probably mostly right about the drugs. unbelievably defensive cyclists in here...

+1 sponican and dodgy.

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giff77 | 12 years ago
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Same article was in the independant as well. Not impressed in Murray and his sweeping statement. I wonder how many positives will turn up if tests were intensified in his sport? After all, there are some games that that go on for hours. Surely stimulants must be used to keep ones focus in those situations as weLl as the steroids mentioned for strength  19

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theincrediblebike | 12 years ago
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Another one jumping on the band waggon. Yeah Tennis is clean, have you seen the Williams brothers. What do you perceive as a lack of skill, take it you he has never descended down a mountain on a road bike or seen a bunch sprint. Over to you Cav mate, no skill just physical attributes. Think I have lost a little bit of respect for Mr Murray here.

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Leviathan replied to theincrediblebike | 12 years ago
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Cheap shot, sexist.

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