Simon joined road.cc as news editor in 2009 and is now the site’s community editor, acting as a link between the team producing the content and our readers. A law and languages graduate, published translator and former retail analyst, he has reported on issues as diverse as cycling-related court cases, anti-doping investigations, the latest developments in the bike industry and the sport’s biggest races. Now back in London full-time after 15 years living in Oxford and Cambridge, he loves cycling along the Thames but misses having his former riding buddy, Elodie the miniature schnauzer, in the basket in front of him.
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Those of you that know of the " Cyclingsilk.blog " will be reading his latest letter to the " DPP "!:
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bzho2RYpC3VuZWZnenN3LUFwVmc/edit
Daily commute by Martin Porter wearing a camera , tends to become a battle with the CPS , to accept the footage recorded , as evidence of " Lethal Bullying behaviour by drivers encased in ton of metalwork !
When a " Practicing Lawyer cannot get the Legal System to see his views of the outrageous , what chance do we simpletons have with those that think OUR WELFARE , counts for nought ?
Meanwhile i will continue to try to find a way to consign phat mc splat to an ignomineous footnote in UCI History !
it seems to me that to do the right thing by yourself ie. self defence and the aquiring of some sort of justice, you have to do the wrong things in the eyes of the law. Shame it is like this but I have now formed the opinion that the police are anti-cyclist and a s such will not assist so as a matter of course I take matters into my own hands.
I sympathise with every rider's frustration expressed here - I honestly do ... but we are obliged as riders, it seems, not only to take care of ourselves - and ride to stay alive! - but to mindfully take care of the many ignorant assholes that sit behind the wheel of 2 tons of killing machine - and you're all right in what you say ... drivers rarely give a flying fk for the cyclist. That said, when I got brought down by a dog - a lady motorist and her two children (bless!) and a police care with 2 pc's could not have done more to ensure that I was okay. They were totally BRILLIANT!!
As ever .... it isn't everyone - it's just a few - and they would be assholes in ANY situation.
Btw, I thought a law had been passed that drivers could be prosecuted for passing too close to a cyclist under the Dangerous Driving Act?
There's now a local report with a bit more detail here:
http://www.cravenherald.co.uk/news/10349601.Cyclist_found_guilty_of_assa...
And recording things does NO GOOD AT ALL.
The police DO NOT GIVE A SHIT if third class scum get threatened.
I bought an HD camera, and it made no difference at all.
It would be better if I bought a gun.
"It seems it was agreed in court that Chris banged on the side of the van. If a vehicle is so close the cyclist can touch it that is too close. The driver did not have to stop, unless he thought he had hit the cyclist, which is possible, but a more likely scenario is the driver stopped to unleash a little road rage on the cyclist. Instead as often happens in these cases he finds he is facing a somewhat fit athlete, all pumped up with adrenaline because he just had a near death experience, and as a result driver gets a kicking. As already pointed out, had the van hit the cyclist and killed him his fine would probably be less than 840 quid."
Exactly. As a cyclist, being third class scum, you cannot win.
You MUST allow people to threaten you with death and do NOTHING about it.
Seems to me you can't win. Best you can do is buy a helmet camera and record everything that happens ... but, however big, brave and fearless you are, just don't get involved in a toe to toe situation. At £850 it just ain't worth it, but ... is it ever worth it?
As the rider you can't win. You're very vulnerable in your cleats, you need witnesses to support your case - and most people aren't interested - and if you end up in court you're up against the sleaziest b'stards that were ever put on the planet. These "legal suits" have a job - and it's to make you look stupid. And they are very, very good at it. How they sleep at night, christ alone knows, but if they can get a felon off the hook, that's what they do.
Camera the action - if you can - then ride away and report it. Sounds cowardly, I know, and not what any of us ever wants to do, but at £850 right on the nose - and all the aggro that goes with it - you've got to ask yourself ... what is the point of doing anything else? Be smarter than they are and don't let 'em win.
Depends whether the driver's mouth was moving in on his fist, or the other way about!
Wait, the driver bit his hand? Isn't this assault too?
It seems it was agreed in court that Chris banged on the side of the van. If a vehicle is so close the cyclist can touch it that is too close. The driver did not have to stop, unless he thought he had hit the cyclist, which is possible, but a more likely scenario is the driver stopped to unleash a little road rage on the cyclist. Instead as often happens in these cases he finds he is facing a somewhat fit athlete, all pumped up with adrenaline because he just had a near death experience, and as a result driver gets a kicking. As already pointed out, had the van hit the cyclist and killed him his fine would probably be less than 840 quid.
Suspect there is a lot more to this story.
I hope so because the facts presented throw a very poor light on the justice system.
Yeah want full details as it sounds dodgy.
Smart. Though obviously lacking full details.
£850 quid, wow, you get lass than that for killing cyclists.