Simon joined road.cc as news editor in 2009 and is now the site’s community editor, acting as a link between the team producing the content and our readers. A law and languages graduate, published translator and former retail analyst, he has reported on issues as diverse as cycling-related court cases, anti-doping investigations, the latest developments in the bike industry and the sport’s biggest races. Now back in London full-time after 15 years living in Oxford and Cambridge, he loves cycling along the Thames but misses having his former riding buddy, Elodie the miniature schnauzer, in the basket in front of him.
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There's an old adage that says there are at least two sides to every story, Unfortunately in this tragic case it would appear the overstretched/time starved police officer only had one side to listen to and accepted it.
Who (except the driver) really knows what happened for all we know the cyclist had clearly indicated that he was turning and the car driver wasn't paying attention and ploughed straight into him, obviously I am not saying that is what happened but...without a full investigation by the police road incident team which would cost money and time when most forces are cutting back on their budgets the truth may never be known.
Ahem,
I refer you to rule 167 of the highway code;
DO NOT overtake where you might come into conflict with other road users. For example
approaching or at a road junction on either side of the road
and the friend of many a motorcycle rider ...
"The life saver" - a glance in the direction you're about
to turn to make sure there's nowt there ..... something
the size of a Chelsea Tractor would be well visible !
+1 I was about to make the same point about overtaking near junctions, which we assume was the case from the 'turn right' comment.
That said, the verdict was one of accidental death and we have to assume all this was taken into account.
The comment about headphones is totally unhelpful and irrelevant, and taken in isolation could imply cyclist fault and a contributing factor in his death, which cannot be the case for reasons others have outlined
I can't find the full inquest verdict online , to see if this was taken into account or not.
In this case, Road cc have just reported what was in the local paper,.so they haven't added a slant, assuming no further info is available,.but if the full verdict could be summarised that would make it clear what the point about headphones was.. Without it, it does lead us to assume some blame is being apportioned to the cyclist for wearing headphones,.which is an important point.
I do find that sometimes road cc articles do have bias and are indeed designed to make us cyclists feel angry about motorists or politicians or other groups. Sometimes this is as a result of the story, in which case fine, sometimes this is as a result of selective quoting etc. just look at the recent ukip stories as an example of this.
No one has yet mentioned Rule 167:
“DO NOT overtake where you might come into conflict with other road users. For example: * approaching or at a road junction on either side of the road“.
The Highway Code says this precisely because road users are likely to be manoeuvring to leave or enter the road ahead – as the cyclist in this case was.
Agree
So, deaf people are allowed to have driving licences, quite rightly. However they are not allowed to cycle on the roads unless they accept that they are legitimate targets for drivers.
To state what is obvious to any cyclist, if you are in a tonne of metal, you have a responsibility to avoid hitting things.
Unfortunately I see this behaviour often enough in cyclists in London, moving out into the road e.g. to overtake another cyclist without first shoulder checking. Have seen a few near misses, recently with a driver having to slam on his brakes (and his horn) as the cyclist he was about to overtake also decided to overtake another cyclist and move out into the road without checking it was clear to do so. Very very near miss. When that happens it's really the cyclist's fault, and as the vulnerable road user, you really do want to ensure you're not putting your life at risk by blindly moving out in front of oncoming/faster deadly vehicles.
The problem with this is that if the driver was overtaking according to the highway code, they would be far enough over that if the cyclist did need to pull out (to overtake another cyclist or go round a pothole/drain etc) they would still not be in danger of hitting them.
Cyclists should look over their shoulder to check nothing is there when pulling out but cars shouldn't be overtaking close enough for this to be an issue.
Another classic bit of roadcc reporting. An article full of hand picked quotes and bias designed to make cyclists feel like victims and anger us for the rest of the day.
I stopped reading papers years ago to avoid having to read this style of article. Just the facts would be good, expect a mild slant toward cyclists but nothing more.
+1 - this sort of thing discourages cycling. It makes it look like we are prey to car users. This scares my girlfriend and would probably do the same for others. Responsible, objective reporting helps people understand the risks accurately. If cyclists are at fault it makes it clear that cyclists need to improve their road awareness and that good cycling practises are required, if not, then we understand that cycling needs greater protection. But this is sort of scaremongering.
Can you point me to the slanted bits?
It's a straight piece of reporting - with no comment on our part. Our policy is to add no 'slant' either way. You've added the slant.
We didn't write the story because we thought the verdict was an outrage - it seems reasonable. We certainly don't report cases such as this on the assumption that the motorist is always in the wrong. Some commenters obviously seem to hold that view, but it's not ours - something we've reiterated on numerous occassions over the years.
The reason we've reported this is the suggestion that if the cyclist was wearing earphones it may have been a contributing factor - not because we think this is a sinister plot to blame the cyclist, but because we've reported on a number of other cases in which the wearing of earhpones has been cited either as a contributory factor or possibly the main factor leading to a cyclist's death. We're not even making a judgement as to whether wearing earphones is dangerous or not - that's for the individual to decide. What I would conclude from this case is that what is dangerous is not concentrating and that sadly if you're a cyclist you can pay the ultimate price for making that mistake.
In fairness the article is pretty much a C&P from the linked article.
However I'll point out what I mean, emphasis on the word likely, twice. I think the PC's entire quote should be reported, we literally have one word and no context.
When we do get a quote from the PC "I think a significant majority of motorists would have done as Mr Coggon did,"
again there appears to be more to the quote indicated by the comma. Leaving the quote open like this appears to indicate the PC has stated that most motorists would also have knocked the cyclist off his bike when what he could have been trying to state was most motorists would've overtaken given the road and conditions or most motorists would've moved over as far as they could when the cyclist moved over, we just don't know from the limited info we've been given.
If this is cut and paste, then it has an editorial which probably does have a slant if sorts. If you do not get source material you are relying on writing and editorial of another paper. As someone else says, we have to take the view that the judge got it right, but frustratingly the article does not support enough relevant details to indicate this, and given the way it is presented it suggests that there is some doubt - as if rough justice for cyclists was common place.
Difficult to say anything with having sight of the Coroner's report, and seeing the angle of impact. If the impact was to the offside of the cyclist, with impact damage to the right hand side of the bike, and injuries to the right leg and torso, one would concur with the verdict, the police officer's subjective commentary not withstanding.
If the damage is of a rear end shunt nature - the rear wheel crumpled, and cyclist injuries to head, torso and arms from being thrown forward into the road - possibly at an angle - or back on to the vehicle bonnet, one might wish to ask some very pointed questions of the WTF nature. The site of impact on the vehicle would be similarly useful in determining the narrative of the collision and what lead up to it.
Having said that, I do occasionally see some very scary riding even in heavy commuter traffic, where one would expect a cyclist to be hyper vigilant.
> it was "likely" the cyclist had been wearing earphones
"Likely" ?
This stinking inquest verdict doesnt suprise me in the least,its just following a trend in this country of the onus of blame on the cyclist
Recently there was a case on one of those ubiquitous motorway cops shows on the BBC in which a busker was cycling home and killed on a particulary dark stretch of road
It was established he had no lights or fluorescent clothing and also had alcohol in his blood,the driver was probably correctly absolved of responsibility due to the mitigating circumstances although she didnt stop at the scene because she intimated she had struck 'an animal' which i thought was palpable bullshit
but i felt uncomfortable in the suspiciously prompt Police decision to not pursue charges due to not stopping at the scene
But this case would have been in broad daylight,the cyclist cogent,visible and not pissed and yet the stinking police putting the blame on the only scrap of negative behaviour by the cyclist in that he was inhibited in his senses by 'earphones'
presumably these are the 'in ear' type and not the all encompasing Dr Dre type sported by our mentally retarded youth nowadays
But i very much doubt this could be the defining factor in the cause of death,i mean if a bloody great Range Rover is roaring up behind you pretty much know its there
In my experience these chelsea tractor morons are fond of blasting past at 60mph in a display of superiority and exhibitionism
But im not suprised,the UK is decades behind Europe in terms of integration of cycling into societal norms and acceptance and if the judiciary and police persist in clearing motorists of dangerous driving and light sentences attitudes will not change anytime soon
I remember seeing that program. If I recall it was night, over the crest of a dual carriageway bridge with no shoulder, where cars can reasonably be doing 60-70 and the cyclist 10-15 tops. No lights or reflectors, dark clothing. I'm sorry, but that cyclist was not showing consideration to other road users or his own safety. The girl who hit him should have stopped (but she was young, scared, its dark...she went home and told her dad instead) No 'jury' would ever blame the driver for that collision.
Don't get me wrong, we must never have a a situation where lack of fluoro/lights/helmet absolves any driver of any blame, but equally you have to ask yourself what is reasonable and share some responsibility for safety.
I cycle on that road every week. I am not familiar with this particular incident but can say that the road is a country lane with a drop into a drain / dyke on one side and fields on the other. The road undulates badly and if it occurred where I believe from the info provided then there are trees and the area is quite dark for a short section even during the day. I am not saying that the driver was at fault as I wasn't there, but it always amazes me the speed at which many people drive along this road, and they are quite happy to pass you at speeds which I personally feel, though again this is only my view, are too fast. I am not anti driver, I have built kit cars, my last car was a Z4 sports car and I enjoy driving.
Im disappointed about the police officers comments. Police dont deal with probability when looking at criminal culpability. Their conclusions must be based on evidence and fact. If he was one of the investigating officers then it looks like he's put his own personal opinion forward which could be grossly incorrect. Even though a Coroner's Inquest is not a criminal trial, Police act as agents of the Coroner and they investigate applying the criminal test (beyond all reasonble doubt)not the civil test (balance of probability). A Coroner can make assumptions and give opinions but the Police should remain strictly impartial and not offer opinions. The officer should only have said one of three things (if anything);
1)The victim was not wearing headphones based on evidence.
2)The victim was wearing headphones based on evidence.
3)It cannot be established if the victim was wearing headphones.
It should have been option 3.
At the risk of making my own assumptions I will say it feels like another poor investigation where a cyclist is wiped out. As has been already mentioned there are aspects of this that just don't sit right.
Velophilia speaks the truth.
Past a certain speed, you cant hear anything behind you. Unless, of course, the things behind you are beeping a horn, sounding a siren or blasting out drum and bass through a bassbin.
Unfortunately, though, many, many cyclists don't (or aren't confident enough to) look behind them before making a manoeuvre. I see a horrifying number of near-misses every day while cycling through central London. Most of the time, they don't even realise how close they were to getting knocked off, and wonder why they're getting beeped at!
I saw it enough today. I was riding through traffic to a three lane junction (the one on Kingsland road which takes you down Liverpool Street. The rider in front of me pulled up to the car in front, realised that traffic was holding her up (the lights went green) and cut into the next lane. She was lucky the Range Rover saw her on this occasion. Being stuck on her fixie she didn't have the power to accelerate into the 'space' she saw. She was VERY lucky. It's this sort of behaviour that fuels driver rage.
Rightly or wrongly her cavalier attitude could have resulted in them going through court action. Riders who don't respect the road, don't respect other users make it more dangerous for the rest of us.
I have no idea what happened in this incident. The quotes don't really tell much of story and without an understanding of where all the protagonists were it's impossible to make a reasoned judgement. Part of me wishes that road.cc reported this incidents in a much more factual and explanatory way. We learn nothing about whether good cyclists are being injured/killed, or whether bad cyclists are being killed etc. Or if the car drivers are at fault. How representative is this of the cycling experience?
Cyclist likely experienced wind noise. Which person actually relies on their hearing before making a move? Why is it cyclist need the ability to hear and other road users do not?
Green cross code does not suggest you listen left, then right and then left again.
Hmmm, headphones certainly can't be blamed.
Either the cyclist swerved straight into the path of the car without looking or the car overtook him too close/too fast not allowing him space to make a mistake.
The headphones are irrelevant so I don't see why they should even be mentioned.
He may have been wearing earphones. He may not. The driver may have had his stereo on, or been reading a book for all anyone knows.
A copper says most motorists would have hit him. Is that really how it works?
Without wanting to sound like Columbo... Oh go on then.. "There's just one thing that's bothering me Mr Coggon.."
Sunset on September 10th last year was 19.26 - a full four minutes before Andrew Watson was apparently hit. Even with head phones Watson should have noticed a full set of Range Rover lights lighting the road around him. If they were on...
There is a growing tendency for motorists to run side lights or no lights at all at dusk these days. It's caused by one of three things;
- auto lights not coming on in low light properly
- forgetfulness
- and the old favourite - plain cussedness.
No way to prove it now but interesting all the same.
I'll get my mac.
Plus it was probably cloudy and therefore even darker.
It's amazing what people don't notice though. When I come up behind people in the dark parts of the park with a pretty decent front light on I still frequently have to say "excuse me" as they've not noticed they now have a massive shadow in front of them and the area in front of them is all lit up.
He wasn't killed because he was wearing earphones, he was killed as he didn't look before moving across the road. I see other cyclists do this a lot and scares me each time.
Agreed
I was beginning to worry with the first load of responders who saw some sinister plot by the Police and coroner to blame the cyclist when 'obviously' the motorist was to blame.
Just occasionally cyclists do silly things and the unfortunate result, as in this case, is that they get killed or seriously injured.
Sympathies to the family and friends of the cyclist don't have to balanced with demonising the other party.
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