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Near Miss of the Day 554: Cyclist “surprised” after police officer who pulled out in front of him does u-turn to lecture him (includes swearing)

Our regular series featuring close passes from around the country - today it's London...

A ​London cyclist says he was “surprised” after a police officer who had pulled out in front of him in a van then executed a u-turn to follow the rider and give him a lecture about his use of the road.

The bizarre episode happened on Constitution Hill as the cyclist headed from Hyde Park Corner towards Buckingham Palace on the route of Cycleway 3 – keeping to the main carriageway, as he’s allowed to do, rather than the adjacent cycle path on the south side of Green Park.

It was filmed by road.cc user lukei1, who told us: “While certainly not a particularly ‘near’ miss, I was surprised at the Officer's reaction to this whole incident.

“Coming down Constitution Hill in the rain, I could see the Met Police van slowly coming towards the road from the park and took the slow speed he was creeping behind the arches as recognition that he would stop for any traffic before pulling onto the road, especially when he nosed out into the road and came to an almost complete stop. Sadly this was incorrect.

“While using some blue language, I would describe it more as a lament, rather than directed at the driver with any sort of vitriol.

“So to say I was surprised when I turned around to see he was right behind me, having pulled a u-turn to chase me down would be an understatement.

“What followed was not a very fruitful chat, where a worrying amount of cyclist bingo items were ticked off. My personal favourites are:

– He is of course a cyclist as well (2x)

– Accelerating deliberately (downhill after an intersection on an empty road, what a surprise)

– Accusing me of going 30mph (on a steel framed Decathlon with Marathon Plus tyres ...)

– Being belligerent (having turned around to chase me for half a mile ...)

“All in all a strange experience,” he reflected.

“Here's a clip on a slightly lighter note,” he added – sending us a link to this video taken last summer a few hundred yards further east along The Mall … if you’re going to ride through a red traffic light, it’s not the best idea to shoot past a stopped police car …

> Near Miss of the Day turns 100 - Why do we do the feature and what have we learnt from it?

Over the years road.cc has reported on literally hundreds of close passes and near misses involving badly driven vehicles from every corner of the country – so many, in fact, that we’ve decided to turn the phenomenon into a regular feature on the site. One day hopefully we will run out of close passes and near misses to report on, but until that happy day arrives, Near Miss of the Day will keep rolling on.

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> What to do if you capture a near miss or close pass (or worse) on camera while cycling

Simon joined road.cc as news editor in 2009 and is now the site’s community editor, acting as a link between the team producing the content and our readers. A law and languages graduate, published translator and former retail analyst, he has reported on issues as diverse as cycling-related court cases, anti-doping investigations, the latest developments in the bike industry and the sport’s biggest races. Now back in London full-time after 15 years living in Oxford and Cambridge, he loves cycling along the Thames but misses having his former riding buddy, Elodie the miniature schnauzer, in the basket in front of him.

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Philh68 replied to SpeedyMark | 3 years ago
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I'd have just said if you cycle like you drive it's no wonder so many people hate cyclists…

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SpeedyMark replied to Philh68 | 3 years ago
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All added to the list of things I wish I'd been quick-witted enough to say at the time but only came to me later.  My slow-witted existence is probably safer, less black eye, trips in police cars filled than the quick-witted existence would be!

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Rendel Harris | 3 years ago
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"You were doing thirty...I had to do thirty to catch up with you." A paradox of relative motion worthy of Zeno himself! As the copper is "a cyclist myself" (prepared to bet some of his best friends are black too) he really ought to go in for racing, being able to catch people up whilst doing the same speed as them is a really useful trick.

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Sriracha replied to Rendel Harris | 3 years ago
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The OP should consider racing too, 30mph is not a bad lick, in the wet.

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Rendel Harris replied to Sriracha | 3 years ago
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Sriracha wrote:

The OP should consider racing too, 30mph is not a bad lick, in the wet.

True, though Constitution Hill is a nice little descent to build up a good speed on, especially on Sundays when it's closed to traffic, perfect tarmac and a 3-4% gradient at the top. Shame the officer is unaware of the law as it applies to cyclists and speed limits though.

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Hirsute replied to Sriracha | 3 years ago
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23 you mean

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Philh68 replied to Rendel Harris | 3 years ago
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Time and distance is not consistent inside the black hole that serves as this policeman's mind…

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Mungecrundle | 3 years ago
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That is certainly a great example of someone reacting badly to having their poor driving called to attention.

Not a great example of policing or how to use the special powers conferred to an Officer in their authority over ordinary members of the public.

Unfortunately swearing, or sometimes just looking at someone in a slightly funny way, seems to be a get out of jail free card for any escalation to the initial incident.

Well done for making the effort to report, it may be a first incident and effectively left on file, it may be the one that breaks the camel's back with respect to some action being taken.

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Oldfatgit | 3 years ago
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Might be an idea next time to read out his number from his shoulder tags, ask his name and station if you think you're getting the shit end of the stick. If they are soft spoken, repeat it back so the camera mics can pick it up clearly.
According to various online sources, a police officer cannot refuse to give you these details, and should you wish to make a complaint, then you've recorded the information you need.

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Milkfloat | 3 years ago
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Policing is supposed to be consent.  Nobbers like that do no favours for the ones who are not self important idiots who lie and make up their own rules.  A simple, "I am sorry for my driving" would have meant a totally different impression to anyone that sees this video.

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RoubaixCube | 3 years ago
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"if you’re going to ride through a red traffic light, it’s not the best idea to shoot past a stopped police car"

To be fair, on multiple occasions I have seen cyclists jumping lights right infront of police waiting next to me at a set of lights. I looked at the police officer and made a "look at this guy!" hand gesture and the copper behind the wheel just shrugged and couldnt care enough to put one the blues and twos when the lights changed.

I spoke to another copper about what i had seen/experienced and his explination to me was that sometimes they are needed elsewhere so have to prioritise what sort of cases they deal with or they may be on standby awaiting a call for assistance from another police unit. --- I fully understand that they have to proritise the cases they deal with. But this police officer didnt even slowly down and roll the window down to give the other cyclist a verbal warning when he caught up to him.

The standard/level of policing is very inconsistent and it seems based upon if the individuals themselves can be arsed to deal with it or not. And its not just officers on the beat that are like that, The ones that pick up online reports do that too. How many times have we seen submitted video footage of behaviour that is in clear violation of the law (even multiple laws) and the police have come back with not enough evidence to prosecute or decided to take no action because he or she thought the behaviour they witnessed on the video was perfectly acceptable despite having broken or violated road safety laws???

At the same time I have seen coppers pull cyclists and drivers over for jumping a red light or riding/driving around like a dick so its not as if they are all that lazy.

 

Very inconsistent. 

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grOg replied to RoubaixCube | 3 years ago
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Police discretion is very much personality driven.. many cops will judge a situation on its merits and if a cyclist doesn't cause a danger to others or himself running a red, they will ignore it, while other cops that would book their own mother, will enforce any and every law on the books.

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Jenova20 | 3 years ago
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"if you’re going to ride through a red traffic light, it’s not the best idea to shoot past a stopped police car"

I'm shocked, shocked I tell you, that the Daily Mail didn't spot this one and run 3 articles about it.

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OldRidgeback | 3 years ago
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Send the footage to the Met with a complaint that the officer's driving does not meet required standards.

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Sriracha replied to OldRidgeback | 3 years ago
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More worried about his temperament than his driving skill. Police should not be so easily triggered. Nothing much happened here, except his overblown reaction. But yeah, it might be better all round if he were driving a desk for a while.

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Hirsute replied to Sriracha | 3 years ago
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Deciding on footage submitted by cyclists?

Rejected - cycling in a built up area in a loud stolen goat top.

Loitering with intent to use a cycle path.

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hawkinspeter | 3 years ago
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That looks to me like that policeman should offer an apology for their driving, but it's not a great idea to swear at/near the police. If the cyclist hadn't sworn, then the police wouldn't have responded, but if the police hadn't been driving carelessly then the cyclist wouldn't have sworn.

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Hirsute replied to hawkinspeter | 3 years ago
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Don't think that this has been overturned

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-15816761

Pretty sure there was an earlier one where a man was stopped for no reason and asked what they were up to and replied 'none of you effing business' and that was ruled ok.

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hawkinspeter replied to Hirsute | 3 years ago
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hirsute wrote:

Don't think that this has been overturned

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-15816761

Pretty sure there was an earlier one where a man was stopped for no reason and replied 'none of you effing business' and that was ruled ok.

I like the term "swearing consultant" - why was that never an option with career advisors?

I think the police should have every right to carry out their job without getting sworn at, but they should take into account whether the person is aggressive or not. I don't think the cyclist was using it in an aggressive manner here.

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Slartibartfast replied to hawkinspeter | 3 years ago
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As Alan Partridge put it "if you hang around with criminals you're going to get lied to".
If police get upset at people swearing at them (or, heaven forbid, committing a crime) they may be in the wrong job. Or perhaps it's just that many of them are on a power trip and expect deference and respect from everyone, and can't cope with not getting it.

I've had absolutely appalling passes from police drivers and always call them what they deserve to be called. Never had one stop though, shame really.

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grOg replied to Slartibartfast | 3 years ago
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Cops that think they are special because of their job need to be drummed out of the job; I would definitely report any cop that throws his weight around just to flex his ego on someone.. it's plain bullying and harrassment.

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alexls replied to hawkinspeter | 3 years ago
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hawkinspeter wrote:

That looks to me like that policeman should offer an apology for their driving, but it's not a great idea to swear at/near the police. If the cyclist hadn't sworn, then the police wouldn't have responded, but if the police hadn't been driving carelessly then the cyclist wouldn't have sworn.

The offence in question, which is of using


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"threatening or abusive words ... within the hearing or sight of a person likely to be caused harassment, alarm or distress thereby"

has two relevant defences if the accused can prove either that


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"he had no reason to believe that there was any person within hearing or sight who was likely to be caused harassment, alarm or distress"

for which there is already a precedent that officers hear such language too frequently to be offended by it; or

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"that his conduct was reasonable"

Even if the first defence failed, I'd argue that exclaiming in shock at the prospect of imminent injury, or injury narrowly avoided, qualifies as reasonable.

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Muddy Ford | 3 years ago
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If this officer thinks nothing of breaking the law in order to intimidate and bully someone, what else has he done where there was no camera involved? This does need to be followed up in order to protect innocent people from the potential harm this officer could do. Thankfully most police officers don't routinely carry guns in the UK.

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rct | 3 years ago
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Maybe this Officer should be removed from driving duties until he learns the law and priorities at junctions.

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Chris | 3 years ago
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As usual it's all about Mr Oinker's ego and nothing to do with safety or the law. "how dare you abject to my dangerous and poorly considered driving?"

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lukei1 | 3 years ago
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My video, I think my favourite line was the 30mph one. I wish I could crack that kind of speed on my heavy bike, thats before considering the driver would have had to be going about 45mph in order to catch up to me from a standing start.

I did report it to the Met online, more out of spite due to the reaction, not because I thought the driving was that bad. Predictably they did not pursue or send a warning letter

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Hirsute replied to lukei1 | 3 years ago
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Where was he coming from? I could see a dropped kerb, so I guess it was legit rather than driving on the pavement !

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lukei1 replied to Hirsute | 3 years ago
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There are wide paths through the park so either just a random patrol or coming from an incident perhaps

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the little onion replied to lukei1 | 3 years ago
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I'd drop a formal complaint in. Get Cycling UK involved if you are a member

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lukei1 replied to the little onion | 3 years ago
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Not miffed enough to be honest, maybe the video gets back to him, meaning the embarrassment is enough

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