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"Numerous" cyclists ignoring Box Hill road closure, according to police

Surrey Police were called after reports some cyclists were ignoring road closures and social distancing restrictions

According to Surrey Police, “numerous” cyclists rode through road closures leading up to Box Hill yesterday. Campaigners have repeatedly warned that cycling could be banned if people don’t ride responsibly.

Box Hill has been closed to all traffic, including cyclists, over Easter weekend in bid to halt spread of coronavirus.

The decision was taken by the National Trust, which owns and manages the beauty spot, in partnership with Surrey Police and Surrey County Council.

Last weekend hundreds of people reportedly ignored government guidance on staying at home except for essential reasons and visited Box Hill to sunbathe and hold picnics.

The Times also reported that cyclists had been flouting rules when riding up the climb – although their coverage seemed to hinge on the kind of misleading foreshortened photography that has led to Cycling UK reporting a number of newspapers to the Independent Press Standards Organisation.

In a tweet yesterday, the Mole Valley Policing Team stated that “numerous” cyclists had been ignoring the road closures.

A police spokesperson said: “Surrey Police was called to Box Hill, a popular Surrey beauty spot, after receiving reports of a number of cyclists ignoring road closures and social distancing restrictions. Officers intervened with riders cycling along the Zig Zag Road before re-establishing road closures.

“We would like to remind the public to respect road closures and not to drive or cycle to Box Hill for their daily exercise.”

Superintendent Graham Barnett added: “We would like to take this opportunity to thank the majority of the public who have been sticking to the Government guidelines by staying local and observing social distancing.

“While Surrey Police understands that the nice weather makes staying indoors difficult, by doing so you are helping to slow the spread of coronavirus, ensuring the National Health Service maintains its capacity to treat the most vulnerable people in our communities, and ultimately save lives.”

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zero_trooper | 4 years ago
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Near where I live is a public footpath, part of which runs through a small campsite (which is obviously presently closed). The owner of the campsite has put up homemade 'footpath closed' signs at both access/exit points. I'm sure that this has no legal standing, however, during the present global pandemic, I'm respecting the landowners wishes and not using it.

My point is that the situation at Box Hill and Zig Zag Hill would appear to be the same. The National Trust may own the land and road, but they can't just close a public right of way. I think that they could if they applied to the local council first. Also a police officer (in uniform) can stop and turn back pedestrians and vehicles (inc. pedal cycles) with a lawful reason. A global pandemic is reason enough for me.

I would have respected the road closed sign, lawful or not.

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stevett | 4 years ago
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10 idiots give rest of us a bad name. What is wrong with these people??? Great rides...

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kevvjj | 4 years ago
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Have to agree, that signage could have been more explicit for cyclists. There would have been many who would not have seen the media on this and just though there were roadworks that could easily be ridden past.
I recently rode in France where the road closed signs even had addendum's in English stating "even for bicycles" Can't get any clearer than that.

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Sriracha replied to kevvjj | 4 years ago
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Hmmm. So all these Strava types, all "off grid" I am to suppose? News blackout, not even Auntie?

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kevvjj replied to Sriracha | 4 years ago
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The ONLY place I have seen mention of the closure is this site! It may have been elsewhere but I have not come across it. I know many riders who don't use social media in any way shape or form, let alone listen to the BBC radio - it certainly has not been seen on my local tv. And it certainly wasn't published on Strava.

 

 

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Sriracha replied to kevvjj | 4 years ago
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So, you saw it. Once is enough, you don't need to see it multiple times. I'm pretty sure they saw it too, not least because they cycled through the signs saying it was closed. Cyclists do get a bad rap in the press generally, but sometimes they bring it on themselves.

https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/latest-news/box-hill-closed-during-ea...
https://www.cyclist.co.uk/news/8037/box-hill-closed-to-cyclists-and-cars...
https://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2020/04/box-hill-closed/
https://www.surreylife.co.uk/out-about/places/zig-zag-road-box-hill-clos...
https://road.cc/content/news/box-hill-closed-over-easter-weekend-272609

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kevvjj replied to Sriracha | 4 years ago
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Irrelevant If I saw it or not! I don't live anywhere near Box Hill so it isn't on my radar anyway. For what it's worth I don't read/look at any of those links other than this one. Just because you do... 

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Sriracha replied to kevvjj | 4 years ago
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Neither do I! No, my point is that you, having no connection with nor proximity to Box Hill, even you read about the closure on ONE of those links. People in the locality, people who know Box Hill as a ride worth doing, for whom Box Hill is a thing "on their radar", people riding through "Road Closed" signs - they had every chance of knowing.

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brooksby | 4 years ago
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if box hill is owned by the NT and not a public right of way (is. private land) then shouldn't private security be enforcing it rather than the police?

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zero_trooper replied to brooksby | 4 years ago
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Possibly not during a global pandemic.

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hmas1974 | 4 years ago
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The local and cycling press has provided plenty of notice that zig zag road would closed.

Anyway, the tossers were considerate enough to log their ride on Strava

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mike the bike | 4 years ago
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At the risk of being thought pedantic I'll chip in my two-penn'orth.
Square or rectangular traffic signs generally give advice or directions to places; they do not give orders or instructions and by ignoring them you have broken no law. Most mandatory signs are circular or octagonal and I see neither in the photo. The police may think you are a pillock, and they may breathalyse you on principle, possibly using the waiting time to check your tyres and lights, but that's the limit of their options.

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WiznaeMe replied to mike the bike | 4 years ago
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If the police put out a sign that the road is closed. Then it's legally closed. If you drive through the signage then it's an endorsable offence and if you ride through it it's a non-endorsable offence. That's the limit of their powers in these circumstances. 

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mike the bike replied to WiznaeMe | 4 years ago
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Can't argue with you Wiznae, except to say it's not a police sign in the photo.  It's a common or garden local authority or utility company sign and would never grace the interior of a police car.  As such it has a very limited legal meaning.

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id483727 replied to mike the bike | 4 years ago
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It's very likely most people are not anywhere near pedantic enough to know the subtle nuances in bollard shapes but safe to assume most can read.
So if you chose to ride it despite the heinous 'mis-bollarding' you're a muppet.

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ktache replied to id483727 | 4 years ago
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bikeman01 replied to mike the bike | 4 years ago
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Road ahead closed signs have got to be the most unhelpful sign ever invented: most times they are placed on a road that isn;t actually closed and refer to a side road further along.

Looks like this sign is a little clearer as it actually says 'road closed' and for good measure has 3 coppers standing in front of it. Pretty clear but if police resources were stretched maybe 1 would do?

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zero_trooper replied to bikeman01 | 4 years ago
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3 for the photo opportunity methinks.

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alchemilla | 4 years ago
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So Leith Hill isn't closed then?

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Judge dreadful replied to alchemilla | 4 years ago
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alchemilla wrote:

So Leith Hill isn't closed then?

no it's open, as are all the routes in the vicinity.

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mdavidford | 4 years ago
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If that's the signage they're using, I do think they could have given half a minute's thought to it and put up something that specifically says 'no cycling'. I think a lot of cyclists are used to finding 'Road closed' signs on their route when the road is not passable by car but perfectly navigable by bike, and so tend to think 'I'll chance it, and dismount if necessary', even if technically they shouldn't. Given that they know that it's a popular route for cycling, it would have been sensible to be a bit more explicit.

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Dnnnnnn replied to mdavidford | 4 years ago
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This is true. I tend to see such signs as suggesting that someone is digging up one side of the road to lay fibre or something, and that it'll be fine for cyclists and pedestrians. It's almost always the case, and most often at the times I'm out there's no-one working on the site anyway.

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handlebarcam | 4 years ago
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How many photographers have also congregated at Box Hill to photograph them for tomorrow's papers? Or have they moved on to other targets, like this irresponsible idiot seen doing a park run in close proximity with at least a dozen other joggers...

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...although from another angle things look a bit different..

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That said, earlier the same day he did risk a hospital admission from being squashed by a 10-tonne boulder, when government advice is to stick to boulders of 3 tonnes or less, so he's no angel.

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Oldfatgit | 4 years ago
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Selfish c*nts.

No respect for anyone; no fucks given for anyone other than themselves.
C*nts like these embody everything that everyone else like to hate about us.

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ktache | 4 years ago
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How are they managing to get past the three burly constables?

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Hirsute replied to ktache | 4 years ago
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My first thought.

I think there are a number of approaches to the summit, perhaps they started from a different place ?

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Judge dreadful replied to Hirsute | 4 years ago
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According to the Strava plots that have been uploaded by those tossers, a lot of them went straight through the road blocks.

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Hirsute replied to Judge dreadful | 4 years ago
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Then that is a bit stupid.

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bikeman01 replied to Judge dreadful | 4 years ago
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Judge dreadful wrote:

According to the Strava plots that have been uploaded by those tossers, a lot of them went straight through the road blocks.

During the coppers tea breaks?

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Sriracha replied to ktache | 4 years ago
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Not sure that those coppers are respecting social distancing.

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