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Is this carbon Lios Nano the lightest folding bike in the world?

High-end carbon fibre folding bike with a Gates belt drive and hydraulic disc brakes

The Nano, launched today in London, comes from British company Lios, and it’s billed as the “world’s finest carbon fibre folding bicycle." That's debatable, but one thing is for sure, it’s one of the lightest folding bikes we’ve yet seen.

The Nano has been developed by former Royal Marine Steve McCulley who aims to “completely change people’s perceptions of a folding bike.” The Nano, the company tells us, has been extensively tested with input from Brompton inventor Andrew Ritchie.

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Carbon fibre is used to construct the frame and fork, and it’s fitted with a Gates carbon belt drive and has hydraulic disc brakes. Lios has gone to town with the carbon fibre, with the wheels made out of the black stuff, along with the handlebar, seatpost and saddle. 

- Buyer's Guide to folding bikes

That all helps reduce the weight. It weighs 8.2kg in its lightest build and 9.2kg with gears. If those figures are accurate, it’s lighter than a Brompton (9.3kg) and even the titanium Helix (9.5kg) we featured a little while ago.

Such lightness doesn’t come cheap, though, the Nano is priced at £3,250 for the singlespeed version, and £3,500 with an 8-speed hub gear.

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The company was founded by Steve McCulley, a former Royal Marine who was struck by an explosive during active duty in Afghanistan. Steve picks up the story:

“In 2011 I was commanding a company of 175 men in Afghanistan, when I was struck by an Improvised Explosive Device, which resulted in very serious injuries. I owe my life to the quick thinking and professionalism of my Marines and the amazing skills of the Medical Emergency Response Team who fly in to evacuate injured personnel.

“My last memory of Afghanistan, before losing consciousness, was the Trauma Consultant crouching over me with a cordless drill, in the back of a Chinook helicopter, saying “this is going to hurt but it will save your life”. The doctor drilled directly into my sternum (without anaesthetic) to administer life-saving drugs as quickly as possible as the helicopter skimmed, at tree-top height, back to Camp Bastion.

“I was then flown back to the UK within 24 hours and spent three weeks in a coma and three months at Queen Elizabeth Hospital, in Birmingham, before being transferred to the Defence Medical Rehabilitation Centre at Headley Court in Surrey. In total I spent almost three years in rehabilitation.

“I have always been a keen cyclist, including competing for the Royal Navy and Royal Marines at national level; however, it was clear my injuries were going to mean an end to my military and cycling career so I decided to turn my passion for cycling into a business.

“Therefore, during the breaks in my rehab and with significant support from Help For Heroes, the Royal Marines Trust and Heropreneurs, I created LIOS which is named after my children Lily and Oscar. The LIOS Nano is a new and totally different product and alongside my business partner Wayland Austin, we have created something special which we think is going to completely change people’s perceptions of a folding bike.”

You can take a look at the Nano folding bike here www.liosfoldingbike.com

David worked on the road.cc tech team from 2012-2020. Previously he was editor of Bikemagic.com and before that staff writer at RCUK. He's a seasoned cyclist of all disciplines, from road to mountain biking, touring to cyclo-cross, he only wishes he had time to ride them all. He's mildly competitive, though he'll never admit it, and is a frequent road racer but is too lazy to do really well. He currently resides in the Cotswolds, and you can now find him over on his own YouTube channel David Arthur - Just Ride Bikes

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muppetteer | 8 years ago
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ALthough the bikes have a Union Jack on them, and there's a "designed in England" badge on the website, is there anything at all on the bike(s) made in the UK? Or is it just assembled? 

Since the bike is a generic Chinese carbon frame, which many manufacturers do, eg Planet X etc, the final price is quite a lot compared to ordering it directly from China. 

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j@n | 8 years ago
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I had a bike fitting done with Steve at LIOS back in 2013. His custom bikes were stunning (so were the price tags though!).  Bike fitting wasn't great, but not sure if a folding bike would require a fit.

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gonedownhill | 8 years ago
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100g difference to a Brompton assuming you want gears isn't exactly a game changer for commuters. 

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the infamous grouse replied to Bradfasta | 8 years ago
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Bradfasta wrote:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/272232736328

ahh! i did wonder why the LIOS version had a derailleur mount interchangeable dropout ..

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Didgerman | 8 years ago
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Going to hurt? Geezo....

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nowasps replied to Didgerman | 8 years ago
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Didgerman wrote:

Going to hurt? Geezo....

 

Didn't get beyond that myself. Personally, I wouldn't include that much information in the sales pitch.

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arfa | 8 years ago
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I wish them well but a mid frame folder is a terminal design flaw for me as there is too much stress on the hinge if you hit bumps/potholes. I do like the idea of disc brakes on a folder given the wear and tear on rims with calipers in the urban environment though.

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Sticks | 8 years ago
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If you're worried about discs in the peloton, think what they'll do on the 8.15 to Waterloo

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brackley88 | 8 years ago
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I am lucky enough to have ridden this bike. I have a Brompton so can compare. 

And...it's awesome. Super fast and light; and much stiffer than a Brompton. The stiffness, and light weight means it accelerates really fast. The brakes are excellent and I had no issues with the belt drive and alfine hub.  I think there are some rather cool mudguard options coming

The price is currently high as they are just starting out with low volumes but the hope is to get it much lower. 

If this innovative (and uk designed) product is part of the future of folding bikes then it's a good future  

Nb  I have no financial interests in the Lios

 

 

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2old2mould replied to brackley88 | 8 years ago
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2old2mould replied to brackley88 | 8 years ago
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brackley88 wrote:

I am lucky enough to have ridden this bike. I have a Brompton so can compare. 

And...it's awesome. Super fast and light; and much stiffer than a Brompton. The stiffness, and light weight means it accelerates really fast. The brakes are excellent and I had no issues with the belt drive and alfine hub.  I think there are some rather cool mudguard options coming

The price is currently high as they are just starting out with low volumes but the hope is to get it much lower. 

If this innovative (and uk designed) product is part of the future of folding bikes then it's a good future  

Nb  I have no financial interests in the Lios

 

 

What a crock...

It's a Chinese frame design, cheap as chips.
So company is owned by a former squaddie (not sure what his injuries have to do with this story. Sorry he suffered in the service of his country but sounds like PR spin to me) with no evident background in bike design and clear evidence that this is an Off The Shelf frame. Perhaps if they had said components selected in UK that might be more honest and I think most people now know how the bike building business works.

Making a cheap bike expensive just because they are starting out is not a valid business proposition to your customer. Why should I care?

Over priced to an enormous degree riding on the perceived wisdom that everything should be made of carbon to be 'better'.

In the market for a folding bike but this is not value for money.

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nniff | 8 years ago
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Ouch, that's a lot for a commuter.  I thought my Airnimal was expensive.  Besides which, the extra weight is good for the training value (that's what I tell myself) and it gives me an excuse for being passed effortlessly by someone with stabilisers on their bike.

Still, I'm sure there's a market, especially if you've got to lug it into the Tube.  I know a few commercial pilots who'd like one I think, but you can get an awful lot N+1 for £3,500.

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the infamous grouse | 8 years ago
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no dyno front hub option, no mudguards either ..

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BikeJon replied to the infamous grouse | 8 years ago
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the infamous grouse wrote:

no dyno front hub option, no mudguards either ..

Or load carrying capabilities. The chap is forced to ride with a rucksack.

I'm not sure what 8 speed hub that is but I've heard bad things about mating belt drives with the Alfine (although that may possibly be specifically to the Di2 Alfine). People have reported oil leaks after a few thousand miles.

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the infamous grouse replied to BikeJon | 8 years ago
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BikeJon wrote:

the infamous grouse wrote:

no dyno front hub option, no mudguards either ..

Or load carrying capabilities. The chap is forced to ride with a rucksack.

I'm not sure what 8 speed hub that is but I've heard bad things about mating belt drives with the Alfine (although that may possibly be specifically to the Di2 Alfine). People have reported oil leaks after a few thousand miles.

only the 11sp alfine has an oil bath, the 8 relies on grease. belt/chain wouldnt be the differentiator there.

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TypeVertigo replied to BikeJon | 8 years ago
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BikeJon wrote:

the infamous grouse wrote:

no dyno front hub option, no mudguards either ..

Or load carrying capabilities. The chap is forced to ride with a rucksack.

To be fair, there are very few carbon-framed bikes of any ilk that I've seen that are suitable for any sort of load-carrying - at least those that involve a rack and panniers.

Even forks, for that matter.

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