Token launches threaded press-fit bottom bracket and rapid turn thru-axle

The original design of this thread BB was from the Brand "TRiPEAK Ceramic Bearing".

It gurrantied zero creak from it's patented snug ring.

They're not the first with that idea - I have a Rotor BB30 to 24mm bottom bracket on a Condor Super Accacio to allow me to use Shimano cranks in its BB30 shell.

Identical to the Token one - two halves screwed together using standard BB tools.

So it's a threaded bottom bracket;  well done Token and about time somebody sorted out the press fit nonsense  

Not sure why they'd need to make an ultra torque version.  As per 700c the campag metal cups are all you need.  BB86 anyway.  Much better solution than the nasty plastic shimano sleeve that was in the frame when it arrived

I too give up with all the BB standards. 

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Token Y U no make Campag Ultra-Torque version? 

People also keep talking about misalignment between the 2 cups & bearings. I can't see how this would ever be a real issue if you can get the crank axle theough both bearings. The inner race of a bearing is machined to a very tight tollerance. The axle assuming it follows normal limits & fits best practice would be tiny like in the microns ( i'd have to dust of my machinists handbook to work it all out).

With pf30 their are more points of potential failure and finding exactly which one it is is maddening and suspicion always falls on the bb.

According to my LBS, legit creaking with them is relatively rare if assembled correctly*. So far in my personal experience the creaking has always turned out to be something else. My current list includes :

• Speedplay cleats needing torquing, threadlock and grease throughout.
• My orthotic insoles.
• Insufficiently tight lockring (it requires a LOT of effort - nearly 50Nm on mine).
• Chainring bolts.
• Carbon paste needed on seat post.
• Crud inside the seat tube.
• Saddle clamp needing a good clean.
• Insufficiently torqued and/or threadlocked pedals.

Hopefully that will help someone diagnose their own issues quickly. Now that I have a proper precise torque wrench for large torques (Halfords own brand pro model is one of the best, would you believe) I've not any more creaks in a long while. Touch wood.

* That said, I know some Cannondale's have/had squiffy tolerances but a good LBS will either ream the frame themselves or you may be able to get C'Dale to do it in some circumstances.

I bought a KCNC BB so I could use an Ultegra chainset with my dolan frame instead of press fit. Isn't this the same thing?

Or am I confused?

I think this comments section just goes to show how controversial pf30 can be.

I honestly think most of the issues are tollerancing issues on the width of the shell and most issues are the axle sliding left and right in the bearings.

Yet another example of https://xkcd.com/927/

BB86 on my TCX SLR 2. Zero problems with creaking or otherwise. And that's with both FSA and Shimano bottom brackets.

I can understand the general feeling of dread with press-fit bottom brackets but they're not universally bad. I hear more horror stories with BB30 and PF30.

Aye, other riders never thought about isolating the creak either. Just you genuises 

Creak creak creak. Press fit BB. Regreased. Creak creak creak. Seatpost out, grease applied. Silence.

I must be very lucky as I've never, ever had any noises or issues with my press fit BB's and they've not been touched since I installed them.  Maybe I'm just a fantastic mechanic.

Agree with the arcaic manner in which a pressfit has to be removed and installed.

I'd like to try this as I'm sick to the back teeth of bottom bracket creak. All the 4 bikes I owned wit pressfit creaked.

The headline suggests Token have done something revolutionary, which seems something of an overstatement given (as pointed out) Praxis have been doing something similar (albeit without the integrated plastic/fibreglass bit, which does seem a bit clever) for some time as have Hope (although you need their fancy tool).

I have several bikes with PF BBs - road and MTB, Hope PF BB and plain vanilla, £20 Shimano plastic PF ones - and I've never had a problem with creaking on any of them (touch wood and all that). I think threaded external BBs are a bit simpler to fit but so far my PF BBs have been fit and forget.

Just off out for a spin to test for CREAK CREAK CREAK! Refitted damn thing yesterday. Living in hope! 

I bet that this new Token jobby costs a crank arm and a leg ! Will it be guaranteed not to creak ? ? ? Mmmmmmm !

Re "Creak, creak, creak, creak.." - Might be worth plopping a dob of grease on your chainwheel bolts & the areas where it fits on to the spider.

My apologies if the above reads as an invitation to initiate your parents immediate maternal forbearer in how to evacuate an egg through the application of sub atmospheric pressure..... 

Creak, creak, creak, creak.. press fit on my Bianchi.

Hideous thing. That's after the LBS took it out and redone it too. 

Had endless issues with press fit on my Cervelo. The only solution has been to fit a one-piece BBInfinate unit. It's not neccessarily the fitment of the cups in the frame that cause the issue it's the alignment (or lack of it) that causes the problems as there are stresses in the assembly and these stresses cause movement as the cranks turn. The BBInfinate deals with both alignment and fit issues in one hit. It's an obvious solution to the whole PF standard. I'm a convert.