Cycliq launches update to popular Fly6 camera with ‘black box’ incident detection technology

Not a replacement for GoPro then! 

Gen3 battery life is TERRIBLE.  A ride that would only drain 50% of the Gen2, *completely* drained (including "home safe" mode) the Gen3 only 75% of the way into the ride.  Save your money and encourage someone else to bring out a competing product (or try to find a Gen2 on an outlet site ). 

Have they:

- improved image stability on the Gen 3?

- Seamless firmware installation rather than the cumbersome one that Shane Miller reviewed?

Any reason why they decreased the lumen output in a day and time you increase that for visibility??

I hear customer service is atrocious.  Any better now days and especially for sales outside Australia?

I simply don't understand 1 thing in regards of the complaints:

who are these people?

I'm using a Fly v6 since December 2017 every day. I never had any issue with it. I turn it on and turn it off. Yes, to change time and date is fiddeling, but I don't do this anymore. Visual proof counts and GPS tracking is also proof enough. My original Fly12 died after exactly 6 months in August 2018. After a few mails with Cycliq it was replaced with the Fly12CE (a $100 more expensive model!) also this one: I turn it on and turn it off. No issues since Sept. 2018. 

I'm not using the App, don't play around, just turn it on and turn it off. 

I kissed grounds multiple times and the devices still work properly.

They are charged on a daily basis and the batteries are still holding a long lifespan. (The Fly v6 starts to decrease a bit now)

Maybe some people just play around to much instead of use it for what it's meant?

Reading that the new Model only does 50 lumen and not anymore FullHD 60frames is sad, But looking at my 720p 30frames I can say that it still should be satisfactionary in ~95% of the cases.

And yes, the warranty is based on the depending country where you live. I can't say that in my country of origin I would have received a full replacement. I would have received the offer to buy a new model with a deducted price, but I would have 2-year warranty by law. It always comes down to the country regulations, not to the manufacturer. (of course, nobody gives 8 years of warranty if he doesn't have to. Not me, not others.)

So, now tell me what makes you complaining about the quality of use and the device?

Is it really the device or is it probably the user? (Similiarities can be found heaps f.e. in the world of IT)

Thank you

After reading the terrible reviews about all the Cycliq products and support I looked around and got one of these

https://driftinnovation.com/products/ghost-xl

Fantastic bit of kit. Not tiny but I have the Specialized Romin saddle which allows me to mount it directly under the saddle. With the 10% sign-up discount it came out at £135 but I did have to buy a memory card.  

I've had a Gen2 version of this for a year the firmware is flaky and the tech support hopeless. It's completely hit and miss whether it works. Disgraceful for a consumer product. Don't waste your money .

I'm confused by this headline "black box" technology... My second-gen fly6 has "incident protection" feature that locks current and previous clips when incident is detected. How this is different?

I may be wrong here but..... I had one of these quite a few years ago (2004?) and that was said to have this "black box" tech then so how come this is "new"

Looked at their webpage. Nothing says "rip off" quite like a £14 accessory bog standard lanyard.

I have a gen 1 Fly6 which I use daily. It is simple to use and far less flakey than my Fly 12 which seems to constantly require resetting.

Not convinced by the 1/4 turn fitting. Having one of these makes my Fly 12 basically a faff to swap between bikes, whilst the velcro strap of the Fly 6 is the definition of functional simplicity.

Also, not sure why the desire to make the form factor smaller, it sits on the seat post and doesn't compete for space. Especially if this miniturisation apparently results in less battery capacity and consequently loss of power hungry options such as daytime light and full on high def video. Saving a few g is also totally irrelevant.

Does this new model have improved scratch resistance for the lens?

Does the mount allow you to use it on a seat stay rather than the post?

It doesn't make things any safer and on one occassion earlier this year it wasn't working when I needed it (my fault not charging it) but I wouldn't ride on the roads without my Fly 6. I'd be happy to test the new model against my gen 1 and without doing so my opinion is uninformed but I sometimes get the impression that perfectly good products get redesigned, incorporating new features that give the marketing people something to sell, but which for most users actually make the product less functional.

They need to sort out reliability issues & completely revamp the software (which is horrible) whilst they're at it.

Was hoping for a re-engineered and more reliable update with better runtime and non-flaky firmware. Instead, they offer less runtime, a weaker light that's useless for daytime riding and less camera options. I'm sure they've some compelling market insight that led to an overall downgrading of the spec but I'm not sure what market that would be. Baffled

Smaller & simpler is a fine direction but some odd choices. I suppose no one is interested in fussing over frame rates on this, but reducing the brightness?

Widly overpriced too, IMO

Less powerful light
Shorter battery life
Fewer camera options
Ant+ seems to be gone (though it never really worked)
Smaller
Improved crash mode
Price stays the same

Doesn't really sell it to me, but sadly there are no alternatives