Tour de Romandie: Prologue: Ascona

Ghedebrav wrote:

Well, made a pig's ear of that! Worst day I've had in ages! Ah well, I'm always terrible at prologues for some reason. Roll on the mountain stages.

Anyone else having their doubts about Sky for the Tour, by the way? On current form, looks like Contador's going to be the man to beat, not Froome.

Me and work mates have been having this discussion since the route was announced and I'll be honest ....since day one I couldn't see past Contador for the top spot , however, froome and Porte are just back from illness , Wiggo rode well recentlyand they have some of the best doms in the business for controlling a race, they have options so I still think they have a decent shout at le tour

Gkam84 wrote:

I'm not insulting anyone, I'm just advising, don't go down your road....you name is now a by word for pain in the rear end, post editing, quoting all round.....

I have no issue with your characterization of me, but Joel's his own man... He's not trying to be like me... He's got his own issues... I don't think he's a 'pain in the rear end, post editing, quoting all round' type of guy like me... so don't treat him like one... Show the man the respect he deserves and answer his comments as judiciously and as professionally as you can without comparing his actions to mine... In my mind, even though you are not an employee of Roadcc, people equate you with being 'their' representative and as such I would applaud it if you treated people with more respect than handing out 'comparisons' and 'warnings'... You have a position of authority and responsibility within Roadcc. I would just ask that you take that role responsibly and adjust the way you can sometimes 'talk down' to people'... His concerns are genuine, if only to him... I say leave me out of the conversation and don't compare us and don't 'warn' people like that... I think it's rude and unprofessional. Everyone deserves to be judged by their own expressions, no need to compare us...

enrique wrote:

Gkam84 wrote:

I'm not insulting anyone, I'm just advising, don't go down your road....you name is now a by word for pain in the rear end, post editing, quoting all round.....

I have no issue with your characterization of me, but Joel's his own man... He's not trying to be like me... He's got his own issues... I don't think he's a 'pain in the rear end, post editing, quoting all round' type of guy like me... so don't treat him like one... Show the man the respect he deserves and answer his comments as judiciously and as professionally as you can without comparing his actions to mine... In my mind, even though you are not an employee of Roadcc, people equate you with being 'their' representative and as such I would applaud it if you treated people with more respect than handing out 'comparisons' and 'warnings'... You have a position of authority and responsibility within Roadcc. I would just ask that you take that role responsibly and adjust the way you can sometimes 'talk down' to people'... His concerns are genuine, if only to him... I say leave me out of the conversation and don't compare us and don't 'warn' people like that... I think it's rude and unprofessional. Everyone deserves to be judged by their own expressions, no need to compare us...

You can't argue with that , he just about summed it up in a very (dare I say) serious and adult manner ....well done Enrique

Gkam84 wrote:

... Don't start being enrique and complaining about everything and anything. It is the way it is done. End of

I would like to complain about you using my name to insult others...

Gkam84 wrote:

1 Michal KWIATKOWSKI
2 Rohan DENNIS
3 Marcel KITTEL
4 Giacomo NIZZOLO
5 Tony MARTIN
6 Brett LANCASTER
7 Matthias BRANDLE
8 Jesse SERGENT
9 Ramunas NAVARDAUSKAS
10 Martijn KEIZER
11 Danny VAN POPPEL
12 Alexandre GENIEZ
13 Jon IZAGUIRRE INSAUSTI
14 Christopher FROOME
15 Lieuwe WESTRA
16 Cameron MEYER
17 Jesus HERRADA LOPEZ
18 Vincenzo NIBALI
19 Thomas DE GENDT
20 Anthony ROUX

Not quite right if you look at the actual times on this. It's not like a sprint where people finish in order, because it is such as tight race then surely the positions must be shared as applicable ie Dennis, Kittel & Nizzolo all finished 2nd and no 3rd or 4th place.

Joelsim wrote:

Not quite right if you look at the actual times on this. It's not like a sprint where people finish in order, because it is such as tight race then surely the positions must be shared as applicable ie Dennis & Kittel both finished 2nd and no 3rd place.

It IS right, I go on UCI lists, not matsport.

That is the list from the UCI, you don't get shared places.

Gkam84 wrote:

Joelsim wrote:

Not quite right if you look at the actual times on this. It's not like a sprint where people finish in order, because it is such as tight race then surely the positions must be shared as applicable ie Dennis & Kittel both finished 2nd and no 3rd place.

It IS right, I go on UCI lists, not matsport.

That is the list from the UCI, you don't get shared places.

How can that possibly work and be fair? That is completely at the whim of the person who enters the numbers.

Joelsim wrote:

How can that possibly work and be fair? That is completely at the whim of the person who enters the numbers.

From the UCI regs applying to time trials ...

Quote:

2.4.015 Finishing times shall be taken to the nearest one-tenth of a second at least.

2.4.016 At the world championships and the Olympic Games times shall be taken and communicated to the nearest one-hundredth of a second.

The 1/100th of a second is true of most major races.

Joelsim wrote:

1,2,5,14 std
1,2,3,5,6 purist

Nice. Your purist will be up there for the stage surely....

cherrypicked wrote:

Joelsim wrote:

1,2,5,14 std
1,2,3,5,6 purist

Nice. Your purist will be up there for the stage surely....

Mistake as I see that there are some tied times, so in reality I have:

1,2,5,13,19,19 std
1,2,2,5,6,19,19 purist