Which road bike - from 3 (off shelf carbon or custom alloy?)

I like WyndyMilla paint jobs, even if i didn't i can appreciate at least they are trying something different rather than the same stripes of red/black/white that the majority of other brands soulless designs. Also if it's custom you can probably choose the paint job and have it how you want anyway.

So I've just come across this thread of comments and although very late I still think I need to post. Firstly id like to know what decision you came to. Then I'd like to say I've known WyndyMilla since they were the size of a shed and seen them develop into what they are now and find some of the comments about frankly ridiculous. The aesthetics of the bikes comes down to two things, frame shape and paint jobs. Frame shapes are subjective some are ugly and some are not however I find the WyndyMilla shapes very normal in a way and not too dissimilar to most, for example nothing is more classic race bike shape than the Massive Attack. Then comes the paint jobs, now I agree these can sometimes be vulgar but at the end of the day that's on the customer not WyndyMilla, some are very tasteful understated while some hurt your eyes.

As for the name well that just a bit of fun and actually means something, all specialized are specialised in is taking money. And the logo is bold and a bit wacky, but that's why there is an understated secondary logo, and yet again your paint job means as many or as few logos as you like.

With regards to the club rides WyndyMilla has a large number of novice riders due to the fact they're accepted and not intimated by the regimented serious club rides, however if you are intending on racing then there is a faster ride which is far more experienced and professional, people like you are the reason people are put off joining cycling clubs due to your refusal the teach people and help them get better.

Yes WyndyMilla is a bit different but they can tick all the boxes from novices learning to 1st cat elites who want everyone to see how crazy a bike paint job can be.

I'd go for frame over components every time.

I like the idea of a Wyndy Milla - custom fit, paintjob etc, but the aesthetics are seriously marmite - the look just isn't for me. I believe they're also stiff with a capital S.

Wyndymilla really do make ugly bikes, don't they? What an awful, awful logo too.

Go to a bike shop and try them out. Or at least, try something out, make a note of the geometry if it works, then try to match that. Buying without testing, or without a very clear idea of geometry, is a risk.

Have you tried the OTS versions for fit?

Im 6'3" and ride a 62cm and that only just fits after having a bike fit, so personally Id go for the custom unless I knew I could definitely make the ots one fit

It has to be one of the first two, can you take a frame builder seriously who names a frame something stupid like Wyndy Milla?

Why not Titanium?