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Suisse Rowe

by Joelsim
Thu, Jun 05, 2014 15:34
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Here is the startlist

http://www.procyclingstats.com/race/Tour_de_Suisse_2014-Startlist

If you're new please join in and if you have questions pop them below and the forum regulars will answer as best we can.

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TERatcliffe26 | 10 years ago
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May have got this horribly wrong....

Just looking at the odds, my team will crash and burn, Frank 350/1, yet albasini at 40/1, and sagan 9/2 yet Martin 9/1 39

Gone for Martin to beat Sagan and Frank to beat Pinot in matchups.

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Joelsim | 10 years ago
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Purist a bit different though

My team

Bradley Wiggins (SKY)
Rohan Dennis (GRS)
Mathias Frank (IAM)
Alexsandr Dyachenko (AST)
Rui Faria Da Costa (LAM)
Ion Izaguirre (MOV)
Linus Gerdemann (MTQ)
Davide Formolo (CAD)
Andrea Guardini (AST)

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Joelsim | 10 years ago
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One difference from mine Twy. I nearly went for Chertnetskii too but decided to keep some money in hand

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Twybaydos | 10 years ago
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Standard team:
Wiggins, Martin, Dennis, Izaguirre, Dumoulin, Dowsett, Chernetskiy, Gerdemann, Formolo.

Purist team
Wiggins, Kreuziger, Mollema, Izaguirre, Monfort, Modolo, Chernetskiy, Gerdemann, Formolo.

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Joelsim | 10 years ago
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I had him in and out (ooh er missus), but went for Iz as he is team leader and has been better at TTs so far this year. Frank will be making my team at some stage soon I should imagine

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TERatcliffe26 | 10 years ago
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I had to go with Frank, with that profile, home tour, mountainous stage tomorrow.

Thought about Iz but couldn't squeeze him in, although would have had to drop Albasini instead and didn't fancy that

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Joelsim | 10 years ago
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I debated putting Frank and opted just for purist.

My team

Tom Dumoulin (GSH)
Ion Izaguirre (MOV)
Rohan Dennis (GRS)
Tony Martin (OPQ)
Bradley Wiggins (SKY)
Alex Dowsett (MOV)
Davide Formolo (CAD)
Mateusz Taciak (CCC)
Linus Gerdemann (MTQ)

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Joelsim | 10 years ago
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Thunderstorms predicted this afternoon. That could mess things up. Wiggo and Frank look to have the best starting times. Not good for Dennis or Izaguirre.

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TERatcliffe26 replied to Joelsim | 10 years ago
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Joelsim wrote:

Thunderstorms predicted this afternoon. That could mess things up. Wiggo and Frank look to have the best starting times. Not good for Dennis or Izaguirre.

Good job I have Wiggo and Frank in both teams

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STEVESPRO 79 | 10 years ago
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As my purist riders have usually all fallen off by Stage 3 in stage races this year, I have decided to try a different strategy for the TdS...
Have gone Wiggo and 8 Swiss riders.... 35

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Gkam84 | 10 years ago
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Oppps, they were set at 9am local....now they are 9am here 41

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Gkam84 | 10 years ago
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They should all be at 9am, that is where I set it, so it is consistent through the race. none of this fannying about with times all over the shop. You know you have to have your team in be X time every day.

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cherrypicked replied to Gkam84 | 10 years ago
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Gkam84 wrote:

They should all be at 9am, that is where I set it, so it is consistent through the race. none of this fannying about with times all over the shop. You know you have to have your team in be X time every day.

I thought the new 'standard' was 1 hour prior to stage start, except when that was prior to 8am arbitrarily?
Consistency?

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Gkam84 replied to cherrypicked | 10 years ago
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cherrypicked wrote:
Gkam84 wrote:

They should all be at 9am, that is where I set it, so it is consistent through the race. none of this fannying about with times all over the shop. You know you have to have your team in be X time every day.

I thought the new 'standard' was 1 hour prior to stage start, except when that was prior to 8am arbitrarily?
Consistency?

I am unaware of this new standard....think you might be pulling that from somewhere and confusing it.

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cherrypicked replied to Gkam84 | 10 years ago
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Gkam84 wrote:
cherrypicked wrote:
Gkam84 wrote:

They should all be at 9am, that is where I set it, so it is consistent through the race. none of this fannying about with times all over the shop. You know you have to have your team in be X time every day.

I thought the new 'standard' was 1 hour prior to stage start, except when that was prior to 8am arbitrarily?
Consistency?

I am unaware of this new standard....think you might be pulling that from somewhere and confusing it.

I've just looked back - there wasn't anything to say it was the new standard. Daves first post in: http://road.cc/content/forum/120545-criterium-du-dauphine
Still raises questions of consistency, and that we could be finalising teams now for tds

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Joelsim | 10 years ago
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Why on earth is this an 8am deadline when the race doesn't start til the afternoon?

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Joelsim | 10 years ago
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No Spartacus for me tmw. 17

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TERatcliffe26 replied to Joelsim | 10 years ago
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Joelsim wrote:

No Spartacus for me tmw. 17

Same

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chrisdstripes | 10 years ago
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Can I just ask - there are still 257 riders available for this race as the final startlists haven't yet been applied. So - can you trust your algorithm that sets the budget? I don't care either way, and I hate people moaning about budgets - its your game and you can set whatever budgets you like, its the same for all of us. But you seem to be implying that the budget is set at least in part based on the values of the riders that are riding, and at the moment there are still 12 riders listed for a number of teams (AG2R, Astana, Belkin) so that might throw off the calculation no? I actually think 140 is fine for this race, its just that the thought occurred to me and I wondered if it had occurred to you too, and whether you've looked at it and it doesn't seem to make any difference.

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Gkam84 | 10 years ago
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When I did the calculations. It came up with 136....I was going to set it at 135...so you already have 5 extra points 38

Because there are two different jerseys and not a combined points in the TdS that is why I'm scoring the sprints, otherwise it is just rewarding those home first ever day. They already get rewarded.

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Gkam84 | 10 years ago
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It isn't linked, want to read it in the game....GO HERE

http://fantasy.road.cc/stages?sid=8601

1 day to go?? When it opened you had over 38 hours to pick a team....

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Gkam84 | 10 years ago
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This will be your scoring notes

Finish line points
35, 30, 25, 22, 20, 18, 16, 14, 12, 11, 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1
KOM points
The number of scoring riders on a KOM climb is the maximum number of points available. So if five riders score, the first rider will receive 5 points down to 1 point for the fifth rider
Sprint points
6, 4, 2 points for the first three riders on any intermediate sprint
Sprints jersey
The sprints jersey competition overall will be scored as the points competition jersey.

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VVV73 replied to Gkam84 | 10 years ago
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Gkam84 wrote:

This will be your scoring notes

Finish line points
35, 30, 25, 22, 20, 18, 16, 14, 12, 11, 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1
KOM points
The number of scoring riders on a KOM climb is the maximum number of points available. So if five riders score, the first rider will receive 5 points down to 1 point for the fifth rider
Sprint points
6, 4, 2 points for the first three riders on any intermediate sprint
Sprints jersey
The sprints jersey competition overall will be scored as the points competition jersey.

thought forum wasn't linked to fantasy so how do the non- forums readers find out about all this ????????
What game says is still confusing
Sprint points
6, 4, 2 points for the first three riders on any intermediate sprint

Sprints jersey
The sprints jersey competition overall will be scored as the points competition jersey.
NICE WORK all with 1 day to go, great work *claps*
Have we had a drama (cock-up) free tour yet this year ?

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enrique replied to VVV73 | 10 years ago
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VVV73 wrote:

Sprints jersey
The sprints jersey competition overall will be scored as the points competition jersey.

For what it's worth I'd rather the Points Competition count the Finish Line Points just to try to be consistent with the Tour de France and always use the one that rewards the points at the stage finish no matter what race is going on...

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chrisdstripes replied to enrique | 10 years ago
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enrique wrote:
VVV73 wrote:

Sprints jersey
The sprints jersey competition overall will be scored as the points competition jersey.

For what it's worth I'd rather the Points Competition count the Finish Line Points just to try to be consistent with the Tour de France and always use the one that rewards the points at the stage finish no matter what race is going on...

For what its worth I agree with Gkam, if a race has a separate intermediate sprints jersey we should score that and not the points jersey. Its only the 5,4,3,2,1 points per day, and especially with tight budgets its better to give the low-priced riders more chances to score points.

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dave atkinson | 10 years ago
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or maybe you just play the budget you get, and quit moaning 105

it suggested 136. i'm happy to give you a special low budget, enrique, if you like

dauphine and giro were both ~145 IIRC. giro was deliberately high to see how it affected things. we normally round up. it's only a suggestion based on a simple algorithm

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enrique | 10 years ago
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I think we should just take a look at the highest valued riders in each competition and use them to set the budget... So here would be my formula for the TDS:

38.1 Peter Sagan
30.9 Cadel Evans
30.8 Rui Faria Da Costa
29.4 Bauke Mollema
3.0
3.0
3.0
3.0
Total 144.2

That simple (!) Doesn't that look beautiful? 4 Just take the 4 highest valued riders, cram them in and surround them with 3.0 riders and you got your budget!... Sounds fair to me! 4 Maybe round up to the highest number... 39

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enrique replied to enrique | 10 years ago
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Dave Atkinson wrote:

... i'm happy to give you a special low budget, enrique, if you like...

No, no, no... I'll take a higher one please... Wasn't the Giro fun for everyone?... I guess I don't take stress and hard decision-making too well... 39

C'mon, Dave, don't you like my simple idea below?..

enrique wrote:

I think we should just take a look at the highest valued riders in each competition and use them to set the budget... So here would be my formula for the TDS:

38.1 Peter Sagan
30.9 Cadel Evans
30.8 Rui Faria Da Costa
29.4 Bauke Mollema
3.0
3.0
3.0
3.0
Total 144.2

That simple (!) Doesn't that look beautiful? 4 Just take the 4 highest valued riders, cram them in and surround them with 3.0 riders and you got your budget!... Sounds fair to me! 4 Maybe round up to the highest number... 39

It's just a few more credits! 1

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TERatcliffe26 | 10 years ago
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The formula calculates the budget based on the field, and then we set the budget. The budget is the same for all at the end of the day

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enrique replied to TERatcliffe26 | 10 years ago
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TERatcliffe26 wrote:

The formula calculates the budget based on the field, and then we set the budget...

So, out of curiosity, what did the formula suggest for the Giro, the Dauphine and the TDS? 39 ...

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