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Hi Ashfanman,
The crack is at the back of the seat post. It must have been a faulty frame - I have had a response from Germany and the frame is being replaced. I'm 70kg and had only put in a few hundred miles, (no crashes!) so would expect no less!
Not overwhelmed by how they have dealt with it - I get a different story every time I ring up Canyon UK, and still don't know when I will get it back. It has certainly taken longer than their initial estimate. If you have a problem everything needs to go back (bars, wheels, etc) so hold on to the giant cardboard box if you have space!
Sigma are really helpful - if you are a customer I imagine they would be happy to put you on their jig, if not, I did it at Velosport on Upper Richmond Road for £40 (I think!) I tried a couple of different frames, and they did know it was for a Canyon!
My body shape was too difficult for the Canyon automated sizing system, and I got too many different recommendations from Canyon in the UK to have any confidence in them!
Thanks again for this - I went into Velosport this morning and found the process really helpful and informative. Unfortunately it looks like the Aeroad is slightly too small for me, even in 2XL. I'm very tall (6'5) and leggy, which meant the saddle-to-bar drop was too extreme. It actually felt okay on the jig, but my back and shoulder angles were both apparently out of range by quite a few degrees. This resulted in a pretty cool, retro riding position, but I guess being that low-and-long might not be the most sensible for longer rides.
The 2XL Ultimate was better, but it looks like I'm actually going to go for a 3XL Ultimate with a slightly shorter (110mm) stem to reign in the reach a bit. The stack is slightly higher, but will be fine once all the spacers are removed. Great!
Now I have another thing to ponder over: Ultegra Di2, mechanical DA or mechanical Record. New thread here: http://road.cc/content/forum/148323-ultegra-di2-mechanical-da-or-mechani...
I got an Aeroad 7 in February.
I had the same concern that the wheels were rather obsolete, with very narrow rims and a sharp v section. Having ridden them a few times I'm pretty pleased with the way they ride. The braking is great - much better than a standard alloy rim in the wet. They are not nearly as scary in crosswinds as I was expecting - not significantly worse than a shallow section. They are stiff, fairly light and apparently very tough.
The bike itself actually turned up 2 weeks early. Wonderful bike, unfortunately it's been back in Germany for a month as the frame developed a crack…
Size-wise, I'm 6 foot with very short legs - the medium is perfect. Well worth dialling the size in on a jig if you can - my LBS was happy to do it for a small fee.
Ouch. Where did the frame crack? Any idea what caused it? Have Canyon dealt with it well?
I had thought about trying that, but assumed any LBS would resent you doing that and then buying a bike online. Did you tell them it was to try out the geo of a Canyon? I do spend a reasonable amount in my LBS (Sigma in Kingston) as I buy most of my clothing there and use it for servicing, but I'd still feel a bit cheeky. Maybe I'll give them a call.
Four weeks isn't bad at all. Three and a half months, on the other hand...
Hi, I have an Aeroad CF SLX and it actually came with a 25mm rear tyre and 23 front. There is plenty clearance. Have you considered what size frame you're going to buy? The reason I ask is Canyon's PPS recommended a size L to me. I looked at the frame dimensions and decided to go with XL. It is pretty much perfect although I have the seatpost right on the max line. I'm quite a gangly 6'4" and I see you're even taller so just be careful and don't automatically trust their recommendation.
Ah, that's very helpful - thank you.
25 rear and 23 front? That seems a bit odd. But good to know I can fit 25s anyway. Will see how I get on with the Mavic WTS tyres and then swap them for some 25mm GP4000s if I don't like them.
I already ride a 2XL (62) Canyon and having looked at the geo charts I'm pretty sure I'll be sticking with that for the Aeroad.
Out of interest, which model did you go for and in what colour? Pleased with it?
Also, did you find the delivery times to be pretty accurate? The base model Aeroad is currently showing mid-late July, which is a bit disappointing. The next model up is showing early June, but I'm not sure I want (or can afford) to spend £500 just to upgrade from mechanical Ultegra to Di2. As far as I can see, the rest of the spec is identical...
I have the red 8.0 Di2 and yes I am very pleased with it. It's the one with Reynolds Strike wheels and Continental tyres rather than the Mavics. I have always rode 25s myself but I've stuck with the 23 on the front for now and it's been really smooth. The bike on the whole is surprisingly comfortable, especially considering the state of the roads up here in Ayrshire!
The lead time was bang on for me, 4 weeks from the date I ordered it. I guess the further out it is the more likely it is to slip though.
I am considering the same model (Aeroad CF SLX 8.0 Di2), with the Canyon H11 Aerocockpit CF. Please could you tell me the angle of stem ?
It is not listed on the Canyon website and still waiting for a reply from a (very slow!) Canyon UK.
From the photos online it looks about level. On the 7.0 Di2 model it uses the V13 stem with a 6 degree angle, which will change the effective stack/reach.
Also, how do you find the Reynolds wheels ?
Thanks !
R.E.: Exalith
You won't get better braking, especially in the wet, this side of (hydraulic) discs. I reckon if this technology had trickled further down the range a couple of years ago discs wouldn't be getting quite the grip on the market that they are now. (I say that as someone who has been running cable discs on my winter bike for 3-4 years now).
Wheel smith Aero 38's: http://www.wheelsmith.co.uk/aero-38-clincher or Walker Brothers 40mm Aero carbon clinchers: http://www.walker-brothers.co.uk/shop/4585910039/fleet-40mm-clincher-whe.... I'd also consider Tokyowheels based on their warranty: http://www.tokyowheel.com/products/epic-50-carbon-clincher-wheelset.
I've never ridden snub nosed deep section rims myself, but virtually all the reviews I've read indicate they handle crosswinds better than more pointy profiled designs. Of course I'm not saying the Mavics are bad, I'd just prefer rims with a more modern design.
I have no idea whether gusts are more or less likely to catch your front wheel if you're a heavy or a light rider but at 77kg I've found my front wheel being blown around more of a worry than the same happening to my body.
I've had SLE's the last 2 years now, can't fault them.
Bit quicker and stiffer than the fuclrum racing 3 i had before, better braking than any carbon rim my mates run (a range of eBay-404's) pretty aero as well.
Never had problems in cross winds either.
I think it is about time Mavic update their rim widths, but they seem quite a slow at adapting their products...maybe a good thing, I dunno. However, from running similarly profiled Reynolds carbon clinchers, I wouldn't buy a set of aero wheels that didn't have a more rounded profile and a wide width. Control in gusts is...exciting. You can get descent wide carbon clinchers of reassuring quality for under a grand, so at worst you could sell on the SLEs and then maybe fork out a couple hundred quid for a better profiled whelset.
I wouldn't be too quick to dismiss the traditional v shape myself.. interesting you mention Reynolds as I run some of their older style tubs in 46mm, don't have a problem with cross winds (probably depends weight, ahem!), and love them. You won't find Zipp or whoever offering a sub-1200g deep wheel, in the latest wide/ bulging profiles.
Also don't forget not all bikes will accept v wide rims and tyres - as the OP may have found in this case..
Seems that people's experience differs quite a lot on this point. To be honest, I think my body is far more likely to be the thing that gets caught in gusts - I'm 6'6 and light, so act like a sail...
Just out of interest, which wider-profile clinchers would you recommend for around that price?
Yes, that does look nice, but I'd certainly want to see it in the flesh before I went for it. I actually live right next to Kingston, which is where Canyon UK is based, but I don't think they're able to let people in to even look at bikes, let alone test them. Would probably end up going for the black.
Yes, I'd still definitely be keen to hear of anyone that has tried fitting 25s to a new model Aeroad. I currently ride 25s and feel that is one trend where you really can tell the difference.
Swissside Hadron 485
http://www.swissside.com/hadron/
It looks like they will next year. Katusha were riding some snub nosed, wide profile carbones at Flanders yesterday. They've either stickered up a competitor or are finally moving on.
By the sounds of things these mavic rims last a lot longer than a standard Alu rim if that is any conciliation. The AEROAD builds ain't as diverse as the other models, which is a shame. Don't understand why they don't offer SRAM or campy for instance!
They must surely accept a 25; we know a wider tyre is more aero...
What colour are you going for? I quite fancy the grey and yellow.
Yeah, I know. But my current wheels are worth £350 - the idea of wearing out some £1,000 wheels just seems painful. And yes, I know all stuff wears out eventually - I'm obviously just not used to such high-end kit!
And I kinda agree with you about carbon clinchers. I'd actually like to see Canyon do an Aeroad with some decent alu wheels (and possibly even a 105 groupset while we're at it), but the SLEs are on the cheapest build they offer.
Also just noticed that the road.cc review says clearance might be a bit tight for 25mm tyres - has anyone tried fitting some to a new Aeroad?
You are not wearing them down anymore than you are wearing down an Alu or Carbon rim when you brake - you will eventually wear out ANY rim. The SLEs are just breaking in...
Can't see the point in carbon clinchers, unless you are going into ENVE/ lightweight territory the price/performance ratio dosnt make sense. Carbon tubs on the other hand though...
Yeah, that's what I figured. I've always found Canyon specs to be really well thought out and not cutting corners, so I didn't think they'd spec a duff pair of wheels.
I guess I'm also a bit concerned about the idea of wearing down a pair of £1,000 wheels every time I brake. I know the SLEs have an alu braking track, so there's no real difference, but still...
Braking on exalith is vastly superior to carbon, especially in the wet. Yep, the narrow thing has gone out of fashion, with most manufacturers selling some variant of the wide rims made so popular by Zipp. Whether you can notice the difference between this design and the latest trend is another matter...
I don't think you would get enough cash from the sale of the SLEs to get a better carbon clincher really, I'd be inclined to stick with the much better braking on the Mavics. Plus exalith rims make a cool sound when slowing down
The rim wear is normal, Mavic advise that some rim wear is expected with the Exalith coating.