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Probikekit fail! - Sportful R&D bib Tights fault

Sorry -bitch moan follows!

After one ride in my new Sportful R&D bib tights, I took them off (yes using the zips) to find that the stitching had come away around part of one of the ankle cuffs.

Emailed off to Probikekit with some photos and a statement on what, where & when just before the Easter weekend.

Got a response from them team stating that the fault looks like stress damage!?!?!?! As a sign of 'goodwill' they offered me a 60% off the purchase of another pair.

I'm seriously livid, as all I want is a replacement pair!

Needless to say currently waiting for response from them.....

The bib's are phenomenally comfortable with the Total comfort pad and the thermal lining, so I was totally gutted. Even although this is really poor customer service, I recommend the R&D tights, just not from Probikekit.

Cheers,

bgw (Not trying to squeeze into tights that are too small for me)!

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DanTe | 9 years ago
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Avoid Probikekit like the plague, they're sh##e!!
They're really annoying n'all.
Ordered a stem for a build, they sent the wrong length with the wrong rise, inferred I might be telling fibs when I complained, asked to see photos as evidence (wtf is that all about?), took at least 2 days to reply to each email, didn't provide a returns slip then refused to pay the postage I paid.
All this took two weeks for a £60 stem.
Useless!!

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davefb | 9 years ago
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SOGA? If not from an actual shop, then its Distance Selling laws as well..
http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/shopping/consumer-rights-refunds-exchange

Nice of them to admit something brand new shows signs of wear though. "Fit for purpose AND last a reasonable length of time" I'd think was the appropriate bit where these clearly are not.

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primalcarl | 9 years ago
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I emailed PBK yesterday asking why my order had been marked as despatched several days ago, yet according to Yodel it hasn't even been collected yet. I asked when I will receive the item. Their response was simply that sometimes this happens and if the item hasn't been dispatched by Friday then can I let them know! So I'm none the wiser! USELESS! I replied back asking them to cancel the order as I'll order elsewhere, but they've ignored that email.

DPD are the ultimate delivery company, you can even view where the driver currently is on a map!

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TheScotsman | 9 years ago
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Used to use PBK a lot, but not now. They keep sending me email discount vouchers saying 'We've missed you', but which failed to apply when I tried to buy anything. Turns out there's a list of exempt products, which isn't mentioned in the list of 'exclusions' in the email small-print and which they will only supply when you contact them.

The only way you find out is by failing to get the discount code to apply at the checkout, and contacting them thinking it's a fault.

I told them having hidden exclusions was a bit off and they should include them on the exclusions list on the email - but nope. They continue to send 'we miss you' vouchers, and the same hidden exclusions are there.

It's a minor niggle, but it has put me off them. Other retailers would probably have apologised and amended their emails and I'd have been happy. Just feels like a deliberate intent to mislead to me.

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Simmo72 | 9 years ago
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I will avoid any company that uses Yodel. It is not worth the hassle. Too many problems. I don't buy from PBK for this reason.

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Zermattjohn | 9 years ago
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Another vote against Yodel, and thereby PBK. A pair of pedals took 3 weeks to get to me, as they had entered the wrong postcode on the address label. Every day for 3 weeks the package was loaded onto a van, the driver went to the postcode location, though as it didn't tally with the rest of the address it went as "undeliverable" - back to the depot, for the same thing to happen the next day. You can't speak to Yodel, only PBK, and they just said they'll email Yodel with an explanation.

Never bought anything off PBK since - you really can't go too wrong with Wiggle or Chain Reaction - CRC in particular have phenomenal postage service, sometimes being the day after you placed your order.

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Iamnot Wiggins | 9 years ago
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Yodel are the WORST courier company on the face of the planet. If I learn that a company uses them then I'll take my money elsewhere.

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Kadinkski replied to Iamnot Wiggins | 9 years ago
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Iamnot Wiggins wrote:

Yodel are the WORST courier company on the face of the planet. If I learn that a company uses them then I'll take my money elsewhere.

Totally agree. I don't buy from companies that use Yodel.

Inversely, DPD are excellent. They send you a text with an hour's time slot and you can track the driver online - tells you he is now delivering package 80 and you are delivery number 87 (or whatever).

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amazon22 replied to Kadinkski | 9 years ago
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Kadinkski wrote:
Iamnot Wiggins wrote:

Yodel are the WORST courier company on the face of the planet. If I learn that a company uses them then I'll take my money elsewhere.

Totally agree. I don't buy from companies that use Yodel.

Inversely, DPD are excellent. They send you a text with an hour's time slot and you can track the driver online - tells you he is now delivering package 80 and you are delivery number 87 (or whatever).

Agree re DPD - their tracking is fun to watch. Had a delivery by them this morning (from Wiggle) - and in a new development, the guy had to take a picture of my front door with his handheld before I signed for the goods.

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bgw | 9 years ago
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Hi Primalcarl,

My replacement pair seem to be stuck in the same limbo as yours! I called them today as it was meant to arrive by yesterday at latest as agreed. They are going to call me tomorrow once they've spoken the Warehouse. Not sure if it is problem with PBK OR Yodel?!?

Cheers,

bgw

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primalcarl | 9 years ago
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I've just emailed PBK as apparently my order was despatched on Friday via Yodel, yet when I check the tracking info it says the item hasn't even been collected yet! I don't think I will use them again, I would rather pay a little more and at least get reliable service

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Flying Scot | 9 years ago
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All fixed, ideal.

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Al__S | 9 years ago
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several months into owning a pair of Howies bib-shorts the pad failed. Emailed them, they sent me a label to return them and dispatched a brand new pair (of the updated design- the ones that failed were the original design). They only wanted the used pair back to investigate the problem

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Metjas | 9 years ago
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I've had problems with Probikekit on several occasions - I've not been tempted back regardless of any offer; I stick with Wiggle, Merlin, Chainreaction - so far so good!

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Dr_Lex | 9 years ago
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My experience with PBK has not been great; luckily those with Wiggle, Merlin, J.E. James, CRC have all been good, so there's been no reason to roll the dice again with a less-than-satisfactory outfit.

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bashthebox | 9 years ago
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I've not yet had a bad experience with PBK but seeing as a lot of you peeps are, I reckon I'll be avoiding them when possible in the future.

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Anthony.C | 9 years ago
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If you pay with paypal then when things go wrong you can start a case with paypal, it saves having to deal with poor customer service. I had to do that once with PBK when it was completely their fault and they were messing me about over the refund and they instantly paid up when I started a paypal case.

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bgw | 9 years ago
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They apologised for my customer service experience and that in light of my case they are reviewing their customer service procedures.

To top it off they are sending me out a replacement pair and I need to send back the faulty pair. Looking forward to having the replacements, which will only get one or two uses before being packed away until the winter.

So at least the matter for me is now resolved and hopefully is a one off.

Perhaps I will use them again.

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Carson | 9 years ago
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Ordered sportful Fiandre no rain bib tights with probikekit in January. Hadn't been dispatched after a week. Wasn't very pleased with the communications from them. Cancelled the order and probably wouldn't order from them again. The price was miles better than everywhere else but in the end I bought sorpasso bib tights from castelli cafe. Yes I did pay a bit more but I had the item within 24hours in Northern Ireland, they were able to tell me which size I needed within 5mins on Twitter, I got points on my account, they have a crash replacement scheme and they're always very pleasant.

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The _Kaner | 9 years ago
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Not cycling related (really...)
An ebay transaction for a Craghoppers hoody with the pocket zip failing as I tried it on...
One email later and the company (Trekwear) have already sent a replacement item and will await the return of the faulty item and refund postage costs...can't say fairer than that...
I've returned faulty items to PBK before without quibble...didn't get any arsey comments about stress related issues...(pair of armwarmers that the elastic gripper came away on the first time I tried them on...) maybe beacause they had only been tried on in the house and not worn on a ride...
Maybe the ASSistant you got was on a grumpy day...and didn't want to be helpful...
Good luck in getting a full refund/replacement...

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Flying Scot | 9 years ago
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That's pretty crap.

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bgw | 9 years ago
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FlyingScot,

Glad you got a reasonable response! I will definitely be taking it up with them. I called and asked to speak to the particular department. I was told that there decision was final and I could not talk to them!

What sort of customer service makes the customer beg?

Cheers,

bgw

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Flying Scot | 9 years ago
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.....well.....the stitching came apart on a brand new pair of bibs from PBK the other week, I sent a photo and a week later got a grand new pair, they didn't ask for the old ones, so I will stitch them up and use them off road.

Try again? Say you expect better having been in a forum?

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PaulBox | 9 years ago
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That is a poor service.

For comparison, I emailed Wiggle a picture of a pair of North Wave mits a couple of weeks ago. Similar situation, in that the material had come away from the seam, but I had been using them on and off for about seven months. Their CS guy got back to me the following day and told me to return them for an exchange. When they actually received them from me they didn't have another pair so refunded me. You can't ask for more than that.

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bgw | 9 years ago
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Cheers bashthebox and good point!

Will dig out the appropriate parts on the Sale of Goods act of 1979 and sling it their way.

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bashthebox | 9 years ago
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Stress damage my arse. Quote the Sale of Goods act of 1979 at them.

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