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Drink!
Thinking of longer events / rides where carrying more water is needed what options do you go for?
Ive currently been using two large bottles, and thinking of adding a third bottle holder, perhaps under saddle.
or use a small backpack with a hydration bladder in it, so could have 2 bottles + bladder
or use a frame bag with a bladder in it, would replace 1 bottle.
or stop more often and fill up / buy more?
I can imagine the pros and cons of each, weight being the main one, but then which would loose the least time on a ride?
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"I ran for 17hrs, burning 8,000-10,00Kcal, but consumed only ~600kcal. I didn’t do this to make a point. I simply didn’t feel hungry and only consumed what I “felt” I needed. How did I do that?"
For those that think you need to carry a dozen overpriced gels or consume no less than x grammes of carb powder and y litres of water per hour on a long ride, why not try read this:
http://optimumnutrition4sport.co.uk/2016/07/01/running-for-17hrs-on-almo...
Keto is old news.
Tell us, do you ride like that?
I might... I might not. That's not the point.
Unlike many, I don't shut my eyes and ears to an well argued point of view.
Who is the argument with.. everyone here knows about keto and considers it viable. You'll see it's been discussed as frequently as last week here. Most people simply just choose not to do it. I came from distance running before cycling and keto is well vetted in that circle.
Why would you evade the question about going keto yourself? What's the problem. If you ask me if I tried keto I'll tell you. Tell you everything I've tried diet wise if you ask.
So have you tried keto?
There's no problem. What I do or don't do is simply not relevant. In this discussion I'm much more interested in people who investigate these things thoroughly, from all perspectives.
This is about me, I'm interested in your experience in keto, as you brought it up. If you can't be polite and answer a simple question like a stand up guy I'll leave you be and form my own conclusion that you have no experience with keto, have no real knowledge about it other than coming across it in a link and just used it to try and one up people on the forum.
There's no need to get shitty with someone because you don't get what you want.
I posted a link I found interesting and I thought was relevant. If you don't like it then don't click on it but you won't get anywhere trying to tell me what I should or shouldn't say or do.
Normally go through 1500ml on a 100+ mile ride
So on any rides around 100 miles i do the following
1000ml bottle in one cage and i carry a tool bottle in the other cage so i have a 500ml coke/pepsi/fanta (whatever is to hand) bottle with just water in my jersey pocket
After drinking 500ml out of the 1000ml bottle i add the 500ml water from the coke/pepsi/fanta bottle to the 1000ml bottle and chuck in one hydration tab and throw the coke/pepsi/fanta bottle in the nearest bin
I'll take about 1.25kg (750ml+500ml), holds me for about a three hour ride.
Any ride longer than that warrants a cafe stop (or two) and a refill in my book. Bonking is something you proactively try to avoid if you live next to a decent-sized hill. As is carrying too much extra weight.
Consumption depends on many factors. "Drink whenever thirsty" seems to be the latest advice being tabled. I'm usually surprised at how little water flows through my system even on cooler days, so I gather I'm definetely not overdoing it.
If I was going on frequent long hot weather rides I'd consider one of those triathlete saddle things, they seem far more comfortable and secure than those under-bike tourer holders (though they're surely far less cool). They also fit two extra bottles.
12-16 gels?!?! The same amount of calories in the form of maltodextrin powder dissolved in squash would probably cost about 30 pence. You can but a kilo bag for less than four quid.
It's a good point, the main ingredient in gels is maltodextrin. Just need to find a way to make it taste like something you want to drink. I'd throw in a caffeine tablet too.
Glad you posted that, gels are pricey for what they are and both me and the missus use them at the weekends so..
Two bidons, and even on longer rides the other bottle's usually superfluous. I've normally stopped for coffee or refilled before I need the other bidon. Saying that, forgot to fill mine today and was glad for the other one to swap over to!
I do my long rides on Sat or Sun and there's definitely no water stations or anything in the middle of the country so..
x2 bottles on bike, and a collapsible soft flask or more if needed. Salomon make them.
My problem was getting enough food for 100mile + rides that didn't take up lots of bulk. Saw a GCN yesterday with Adam Hansen and solved it! He squeezes energy gels into a soft flask (like the Salomon ones). Can get between 12 to 16 gels in a flask so, saves bulk and no need to mess around with wrappers. Going to half fill a soft flask with water and the rest with about 6 or 7 gels and try a long ride this weekend and see how it goes. Loads of bulk saved.. can't believe I never thought of it before. Even he says he's the only guy in the peloton who does it!
That's a pity 'cause I really enjoy my Sunday morning gel wrapper collections. Makes you proud to be a cyclist.
Kin'ell!
I'm wincing at both the cost (£15-£25?) and the thought of needing 16 gels in one bike ride. I wouldn't even try that if I was doing a 12 hour time trial. What's wrong with real food?
As for fluids, I think most people need less than the sports nutrition companies want you to think. Unless it's really hot and/or I'm perspiring lots I'm quite happy with 2 hours per 750ml bottle.
Used to take real food but it's getting harder as my pace is increasing I notice and High 5 gels are pretty cheap. Maybe 40p on deep discount.
I saw that gcn episode as well.... Genius!!!
I regularly do rides of 100km on two bottles, I'm intrigued to know where you are riding to go further than that without passing a shop, petrol station or pub.
Although when the temperature is above 25 (dragon ride 201y) more frequent water will be needed, this doesn't happen too often in UK
Only time I pass a shop on my regular long rides is the 6 miles out and last 6 miles back. Pointless either way.
I could do 500 miles and not pass a shop on my route.
Leave it with you to work out why.
You own shop with a 250 mile driveway and living quarters above ?
You live in the unconstituted locality of Radisson, Quebec?
If I'm anywhere close you should send me a water bottle as a reward. No, wait: keep it; you'd need it more than I do.
I use 2x 750ml bottles for longer rides. If I go through those then it's going to be a sizeable distance so I'm stopping for a break anyway and can refill at water station (during events) or worst case spending £2 on a large bottle of water at newsagents is worth not having to carry the weight.
You'll be hard pushed to find a cheaper way to save weight on your bike than not carrying an extra litre of water on your back!
FECK!
Oops, sorry, thought this was Father Jack thread from the title.
Are we waterlogged? http://trailrunnernation.com/2013/03/dr-tim-noakes-are-we-waterlogged/
interesting podcast by Dr Tim Noakes
I regularly consume 4 or 5 litres (and a couple of bananas) on a 100km ride in Singapore without any need to find a public convenience. Despite riding in the pre-dawn and early morning... I usually end up weighing >1kg less, at least until I down another 1.5litres straight away.
I often manage a 170 miler, with 1 750 ml bottle, refilled at about the halfway mark, it seems to be a good compromise. It amazes me the amount of folk I've ridden with, who have enough bottles with them, to service the TDF peloton. Of course it depends on the route / weather / condition of the rider, but sometimes I think people massively overestimate how much they need.