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Transport Secretary fails to leave details at the scene of an accident
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What do you mean he stopped. It was him getting out of the car without looking that caused the incident. The driver drove off, without giving any details.
I'm no friend of Grayling, but apart from opening his door, he did everything required of him under the law, and I guess pure courtesy. He stopped, eh ensured the cyclist was OK and had the opportunity to ask for details.
"Section 170(2) of the Road Traffic act 1988 provides that the driver of the motor vehicle must stop and, if required to do so by any person having reasonable grounds for so requiring, give his name and address, the name and address of the owner of the vehicle and the identification marks of the vehicle. The duty to stop means to stop sufficiently long enough to exchange the particulars above: Lee v Knapp [1966] 3 All ER 961."
Drivers of cars are required to stop after an accident involving injury to someone or damage to another vehicle. They then need to give insurance details to anyone who reasonably asks for these details. If the driver does not provide those details the accident should be reported. Section 170 of the Road Traffic Act.
Passengers do not need to report accidents. That doesn't mean that they are not liable for damage or injury. Section 42 etc. Drivers must report to police only if they don't give details.
I think you'll find that drivers are required to report any collision on the public highway to the Police within 24 hours under section 170 of the 1988 Road Traffic Act. It also seems that the driver didn't give his details - also an offence under the same Act. Has everyone forgotten about Emma Way who was convicted of both offences?
Drivers do not need to report every accident to the police under section 170. If they did then I would have to report myself to the police for denting my wife's bumper. I don't. If an accident occurs the driver has to stop. They then have to give certain details (name, insurance, car reg) to relevant persons. Once that is done they do not need to inform the police. This may be surprising but that is how section 170 is worded.
Why does he need to report it?
I don't think he did need to. The driver needed to report it. I'd say both probably liable but I suspect nothing will happen as usual.
Not sure who has to but someone was injured so should be reported and 'Dooring' is an offence under the Road Traffic Act - the passenger is responsible (EDIT - for the injury at least).
http://www.lampkins.co.uk/cyclist-injured-by-car-door/
Poor Mr Grayling. Imagine how frustrating it must be having your own ministerial car and driver provided at taxpayer expense yet still having to go to the personal effort to knock plebs off their bikes with your door.
Then he is generous enough to give a free lecture on road safety and yet still the internet trolls are on his case.
“One thing he did say was that I was cycling too fast, which was not true,” Liu said. “That made me really upset. He made out it was my fault.”
you just couldn't invent this!
Classic victim blaming.
well, not only that - being the transport secretary he should've said - you were going up the inside mate!
wasn't there a case recently where the driver got done for not reporting?
Unfortunately very believable.
It is the responsibility of the person opening the door to check. I thought he was going to try not to get caught doing anything dodgy.
I hope Grayling had already reported it to the police, as not to do so would be an offence.
Maybe he will now start pushing for the introduction of educating the motoring public in the Dutch Reach.
should note this was a section in between two protected cycle lanes, just proves they are needed because of the actions of people who don't take care.
Surprised road.cc hasn't picked this one. Absolutely outrageous. He already needed to resign after his comments about cyclists...
He won't resign - MPs have no shame any more.
Also it is us the taxpayer who will be paying for the cyclists injuries and bike repairs as we pay for the car to be insured - http://www.slatergordon.co.uk/media-centre/blog/2015/06/cycling-law-is-c...
Genuinely unbelievable