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Met Police - learning results of submissions

London camera cyclists may be interested to know that, according to a response I've just received from the traffic public reporting team (after I said that if they wouldn't tell me the outcome of a submission I would have to make an FOI request for it) that apparently "a project is underway and hopefully will be live in December 2024, where you will be able to view the results of Public Reporting traffic offences." That would be a definite step forward if it comes to pass!

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chrisonabike replied to mdavidford | 2 weeks ago
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Perhaps it was one of those terrible military "accidents" where bio-weapons were released and went further than intended or lingered for too long?  (Like Gruinard Island)

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JLasTSR replied to Hirsute | 1 month ago
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Now boy did you forget your Latin? What case should it be in, write it out 100 times all over this nice clean wall. Romani ite domum.

Abbreviated from Monty Python

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wtjs | 1 month ago
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Just remember the LancsFilth Dodge! They refused to tell me what they actually DID when they claimed they would take action after a gross offence by a bus driver. FoI, ICO, Information Tribunal procedure terminated by the Upper Tier Tribunal when I was refused leave to appeal there. That takes ages so I'm going to repeat the FoI request soon. They're prepared to spend all that time and effort refusing - obviously because what they did was send the joke advice letter or did nothing at all. They don't like lying in print!

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belugabob replied to wtjs | 2 weeks ago
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wtjs wrote:

Just remember the LancsFilth Dodge! They refused to tell me what they actually DID when they claimed they would take action after a gross offence by a bus driver. FoI, ICO, Information Tribunal procedure terminated by the Upper Tier Tribunal when I was refused leave to appeal there. That takes ages so I'm going to repeat the FoI request soon. They're prepared to spend all that time and effort refusing - obviously because what they did was send the joke advice letter or did nothing at all. They don't like lying in print!

Nice use of 'Tribunal', in a non-Roman context

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jaymack | 1 month ago
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I'm reminded of King Leonidas's comment at Thermopylae "...if".

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Rendel Harris replied to jaymack | 1 month ago
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jaymack wrote:

I'm reminded of King Leonidas's comment at Thermopylae "...if".

Spartan response to Philip II of Macedon ("If I invade Laconia you shall never rise again!" Spartan response: "If.") I think, a century after Thermopylae, but yes, we shall see...

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momove replied to Rendel Harris | 1 month ago
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You two are going to have to help out the undereducated here!

On a side note, very happy to hear the Met may be publishing the outcomes of reporting. Will have to wait and see what it ends up being.

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Rendel Harris replied to momove | 1 month ago
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The Battle of Thermopylae (480 BC) was one of the most important battles of the ancient world, where 7,000 Greeks, led by the Spartans under Leonidas, defeated a Persian invasion force under Xerxes of between 120,000-300,000 men. 140-odd years later Greece was invaded by Philip II of Macedon; having defeated several of her city states, he sent the message to Sparta as above, "If I invade Laconia you shall never rise again!" to which the Spartans replied "If." This is the origin of the word "laconic" meaning brief and to the point, Laconia being the region of which Sparta was the capital.

On the sidenote, yes it will be interesting to see whether they fulfil their promise, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt for the moment. The email I received yesterday promised that not only would cases be listed in future but there would be access to historical cases as well so it will be interesting to catch up on old submissions where no information has been provided apart from the fact that in an NIP was issued.

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momove replied to Rendel Harris | 1 month ago
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Cheers for the lesson! Wasn't expecting one so was pleasantly surprised, especially getting to find the origin of "laconic"!

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JLasTSR replied to Rendel Harris | 1 month ago
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Thermopylae is generally thought of as a Persian victory as they killed every Greek and those Greeks that were sent away when they found out Xerxes had circumvented them retreated, the 300 Spartans and some allies then held the Persians up for a further day but were all killed. The naval battle Salamis was the really big defeat for the Persians and Platea was a bit of an undecided one but the Persians retreated so the Greeks are probably justified in claiming it. 

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Rendel Harris replied to JLasTSR | 1 month ago
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Yes, that's a fair enough way of looking at it. I suppose it's in some ways the same as the Blitz in World War II, by any objective measure the Germans won the Blitz, having killed so many and destroyed so much of Britain's infrastructure, but the British just managed to hold them off enough to prevent an invasion, so in the wider context it's a British victory.

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mdavidford replied to JLasTSR | 1 month ago
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JLasTSR wrote:

Platea was a bit of an undecided one but the Persians retreated so the Greeks are probably justified in claiming it. 

They were handed the victory on a Platea?

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Mr Blackbird replied to Rendel Harris | 1 month ago
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Readers may be interested to hear that the war was started when the Greek philosopher Idsius (who Plato later described as a bit of a numpty) proposed abolishing horse lanes which were used to provide segregation from close passing chariots. Idsius also proposed that all horseriders wear Greek alphabet plates, as this would eliminate all known traffic safety issues.
The Persians on the other hand were very pro safe horse riding and had recently expanded their lane network, with several redesigned roundabouts, including the famous Mashad double decker gyratory system. When the Persians heard about Idsius' proposals,they were enraged and invaded.

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jaymack replied to Rendel Harris | 1 month ago
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My blunder will have those that had the thankless task of teaching me Latin & Greek to be turning in their graves!

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Rendel Harris replied to jaymack | 1 month ago
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jaymack wrote:

My blunder will have those that had the thankless task of teaching me Latin & Greek to be turning in their graves!

My posts would have those who had the similarly thankless task of teaching me leaping from their graves and crying, "My God, it's only taken 40 years but Harris has actually remembered something at last!"

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mattw replied to jaymack | 1 month ago
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jaymack wrote:

My blunder will have those that had the thankless task of teaching me Latin & Greek to be turning in their graves!

Alea iacta est.

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Bill H replied to mattw | 1 month ago
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"Hoc Rendel dixit"; tu quid?

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brooksby replied to Bill H | 1 month ago
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Erm...  "Caecilius est in horto."  3

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hawkinspeter replied to brooksby | 1 month ago
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brooksby wrote:

Erm...  "Caecilius est in horto."  3

Yeah, I bet he's just lounging around whilst his slave is working in the atrium

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Rendel Harris replied to hawkinspeter | 1 month ago
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hawkinspeter wrote:

Yeah, I bet he's just lounging around whilst his slave is working in the atrium

Poor old Grumio. But I do seem to recall he had a good thing going with the kitchen maid and possibly Caecilius' missus as well so...

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chrisonabike replied to brooksby | 1 month ago
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There's a book that can help you with that!  I can't remember if it covers traffic jams on the Via Appia specifically but I'm sure there are some suitable phrases for addressing other road users.

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brooksby replied to brooksby | 1 month ago
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brooksby wrote:

Erm...  "Caecilius est in horto."  3

It's terrible - I did Latin at O level (got an A, IIRC).  I remember doing Virgil in the exam.  But now I'm reduced to this… 

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jaymack replied to mattw | 1 month ago
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Somehow "veni vidi erravi" doesn't have quite the same ring as the original. 

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