Police appeal after cyclist death in North London this morning

if she was overtaken by the truck then he should have been aware she was there. If she snuck up on his inside then she should have seen his indicators and would have either sped up or slowed down. We know too little about the case at this point to pass judgement, let the cops (as useless as they are) collect the evidence and it goes from there.

My dad taught me many years ago when I first started to ride a bike - if they haven't seen you, then they haven't seen you. People (ie everyone) need to be aware of what is going on around them rather than directly in front of them....

My condolences to her family and loved ones. May she rest in peace.

I'm not going to get into a debate about who's to blame, I see little point. I just hope something gets done soon to put an end to these "accidents" I keep reading about.

Another incredibly sad tale - it's easy for us to sit at home and speculate over who did what.

ALL of us need to just take a bit more care and take that moment to look at thwat is going on around us, be they cyclist, pedestrian or driver. Please take that extra moment, especially with winter upon us and drivers visibility is that much more restricted.

Magic plastic pedestrian helmets may have helped those women...

Probably as effective against falling scaffolding poles as they are against trucks

Magic plastic pedestrian helmets may have helped those women...

Probably as effective against falling scaffolding poles as they are against trucks

Meantime 2 women are injured by falling scaffolding near Liverpool St. Unless the police know more than we do, that seems like negligence rather than malice. Nonetheless, a man's arrested for GBH. Vehicles are truly the sensible weapon of choice.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-30898299

Whatever the circumstances of how the cyclist end up in the position she did the recent court cases would suggest that all the driver has to do is say "I didn't see her" and he'll be given his keys back and sent on his way by the juryer full of motorist.

I feel sick for her and her family, RIP

I think at the moment its too ambiguous to say what happened in this particular instance, was she where she should not have been or was she placed there by a lorry coming up alongside...what is not ambiguous is the absence of infrastructure that could have made this situation impossible.
Money comes before lives once again.

Why is it pretty much always these fucking tipper trucks that are so dangerous, the big killers on the roads? They must proportionately kill and seriously injure a lot more people than any other type of vehicle? You hardly ever or never see an M&S or Sainsbury's logo'd truck having run down or squashed a cyclist? What the fuck are these morons being taught when they get behind the wheel of a tipper truck or 8 wheeler? Very little to do with road safety it seems to me as so many of them have been responsible for the deaths of so many cyclists. e.g. Denis Putz a case in point. This segment of the heavy goods aggregate industry needs to pull their fingers out their arses and train their drivers to drive a lot more cautiously, stop killing people! I had one tail gate me in my car last week literally 5-6 feet from my rear bumper. I only drive a small flimsy car. It was terrifying. Then he tried to drive into me as he tried to overtake me and run me off the road in a residential 30mph zone and I was driving at smack on 30mph. Bastards. Tipper skip drivers are the worst truck drivers, scum of the earth IME. They do not give a monkeys who or what they drive over.

To drive a heavy vehicle safely in any urban area you have to assume that something has snuck up the inside and check before you turn left.
I used to stand up in my seat to get better look in the mirrors down by the front wheel before I turned.
I am incredulous that "I didn’t see" is an excuse. I was taught that if cant see don’t move the vehicle, and to pull my self up in the seat to get a different angle in the mirrors.
Rigid vehicles don’t really have blind spots like articulated vehicles do.

oozaverd, what your saying I think is the situation, but if you read the quote it doesn't say the lorry was overtaking, it says slow moving traffic and the victim was on the inside.

It could be that she undertook, that she was being overtaken, it isn't clear.

Lorries need to be sorted out with sensors and/or cameras on the inside left, or at the very least make those rails compulsory which stop people being dragged under. It's so stupid that we continue to let this happen, you can spend all the money you want trying to make cycle lanes etc but you can't cover all junctions in London. Also, education for cyclists and lorry drivers needs to be ramped up.

From the Standard:

"A truck driver interviewed by police at the scene who was driving behind the lorry and cyclist as they travelled down Seven Sisters Road towards Manor House said the collision happened as they both turned left into Amhurst Park.

The scaffolder, who wished not to be named, said: “We were behind and it was turning left and she was on the inside and was dragged under the lorry.

“She was just cycling and the lorry as it turned left while she was on the inside it hit her as she was next to it where the traffic lights are as you turn. So it didn’t hit her from behind it was while she was next to it.

“It was like a traffic jam about only 4 or 5mph rolling traffic but it dragged her under.

“The bike was badly damaged and she wasn’t moving.”"

RIP.

Terrible news, such a beautiful morning for cycling too.

RIP.

Another woman cyclist killed by a tipper truck. Awful. RIP.

If you are cycling and see a tipper truck or such similar 8 wheeler truck approaching you then shit yourself, get off the road asap as these vehicles are killers. Aka the Grim Tipper.

Do not go up the inside. No indication this woman did, but don't. Get a mirror to see what's coming up behind or in your blind spot. Be safe.

Another tipper truck linked to a cycling fatality - very sad to hear these are continuing.