Video: London driver deliberately knocks cyclist off bike

john1967 wrote:

Please ,please remember their are some really dangerous people driving cars. Please always think twice before engaging already angry drivers.Do not put your pride before a smack on the nose or worse.

I know some well-ard blokes that ride bikes who would give your angry gammon a good hiding (and a bit more for good measure) if he dared to leave the comfort of his mobile sofa.

However, the suggestion to use cameras and let the plod deal with it is a much better route, providing the local fuzz actually give a toss. And if they don't?

crazy-legs wrote:

I'd have got off the road at that point. There's no way I'd stop in front of a driver who's already giving abuse and not listening to reason. Up the pavement and fuck off sharpish.

 

Me too I think. It's best to just get away from the nutters. There's no reasoning with them.

crazy-legs wrote:

I'd have got off the road at that point. There's no way I'd stop in front of a driver who's already giving abuse and not listening to reason. Up the pavement and fuck off sharpish.

Yes - and probably behind the nearest solid object, too, for good measure, in case they chase you up the kerb.

Much as I'd be like to beat the cr@p out of some drivers, there's absolutely no way I'd hang around if some one was getting out of their car, unless they've already smashed the bike - trying to run in SPD shoes would be pointless.

Monstermunch wrote:

The driver who rammed the cyclist off his bike crossed two white lines, eleven seconds before the car on his right pulled away. Either he crossed two white lines on RED, or the other driver was asleep. The van behind also kept behind (on) the first white line

The driver ramming was sure he was able to reverse back, and then pull into the other lane without having problems with the other vehicles. 

I suggest that there is ample evidence to question the driver about crossing two white lines on red, as well as the assault.

Can't see the lights on the front camera but as the traffic on the other side was already moving and in the majority of cases, opposite lights are on the same timers then probably not red when he moved. The other drivers were probably wary of the road rage building at the time.

quiff wrote:

If this has recently been reported to the police, then the cyclist has probably been asked to remove the video from social media etc while they investigate. What's road.cc policy on this?

There's a lot of cynicism here about what the police will do about it. To be fair to them, I have reported two close pass incidents with footage (one of them deliberate and repeated twice in quick succession; the other one just reckless) and both were investigated, Notices of Intended Prosecution sent, and the drivers were offered and accepted a remedial course (at their cost). I can't imagine they will refuse to investigate this (and I suspect a remedial course is probably not on the list of available options for this offence). 

Last week I was talking with a dashcam officer about a collision and told him about Road.cc having the video and he was fine with it. In his opinion, he welcomes discussions of road safety and he thought that the chances of a jury having members that have been influenced by Road.cc is pretty slim, so he didn't see any problem with it.

quiff wrote:

There's a lot of cynicism here about what the police will do about it

Well
https://road.cc/content/news/257743-police-use-close-pass-footage-prosec...
cycle.london also confirmed my earlier recollection that they were on the end of 'couldn't identify driver' .
The met seem far worse than other forces. There is also a lack of consistency between regions.

Pedantic Pedaller wrote:

Don't be surprised if we discover the cyclist is issued with a FPN.

Technically, cyclists are only permitted to enter the advanced box via the left hand side of the road, as the motorist was demanding vehemently, where there is a short section of a broken stop line.

Incorrect.   This was changed in - I believe - 2016.  It is now legal to enter the ASL across its entire width.  

Legs_Eleven_Worcester wrote:

Pedantic Pedaller wrote:

Don't be surprised if we discover the cyclist is issued with a FPN.

Technically, cyclists are only permitted to enter the advanced box via the left hand side of the road, as the motorist was demanding vehemently, where there is a short section of a broken stop line.

Incorrect.   This was changed in - I believe - 2016.  It is now legal to enter the ASL across its entire width.  

Common sense prevailed!

Does anyone know the SI that changed this?

alansmurphy wrote:

Probably so we don't all think you're a bald, angry, little man whose wife ran off with an Audi salesman...

I generally try to avoid dialogue with idiots, as they tend to ignore facts in preference to making imbecilic comments, but I would like to point out that it would be a lot easier to follow your train of thought (?) if you quoted whoever you were responding to.

And if you don't have anything constructive, intelligent or even vaguely thoughtful to say, don't say it.

burtthebike wrote:

alansmurphy wrote:

Probably so we don't all think you're a bald, angry, little man whose wife ran off with an Audi salesman...

I generally try to avoid dialogue with idiots, as they tend to ignore facts in preference to making imbecilic comments, but I would like to point out that it would be a lot easier to follow your train of thought (?) if you quoted whoever you were responding to.

And if you don't have anything constructive, intelligent or even vaguely thoughtful to say, don't say it.

Thanks Burt, I do too. I'd hoped as the comment was directly below then it would have been pretty obvious who it was aimed at (and prefer not to have the massive long quoting post thing going on).

I rarely bite and my comment was deliberately at a lower level as I thought it was something that legs would probably understand. It's getting rather boring listening to his 'holier than thou', hard man image that he's trying to put across. He's basically been called out to put up or shut up but we all know he has no desire to do either...

alansmurphy wrote:

burtthebike wrote:

alansmurphy wrote:

Probably so we don't all think you're a bald, angry, little man whose wife ran off with an Audi salesman...

I generally try to avoid dialogue with idiots, as they tend to ignore facts in preference to making imbecilic comments, but I would like to point out that it would be a lot easier to follow your train of thought (?) if you quoted whoever you were responding to.

And if you don't have anything constructive, intelligent or even vaguely thoughtful to say, don't say it.

 

Thanks Burt, I do too. I'd hoped as the comment was directly below then it would have been pretty obvious who it was aimed at (and prefer not to have the massive long quoting post thing going on).

 

I rarely bite and my comment was deliberately at a lower level as I thought it was something that legs would probably understand. It's getting rather boring listening to his 'holier than thou', hard man image that he's trying to put across. He's basically been called out to put up or shut up but we all know he has no desire to do either...

Oh, I've been 'called out', have I?    

Tell me.... exactly what age are you?   

alansmurphy wrote:

I generally try to avoid dialogue with idiots, as they tend to ignore facts in preference to making imbecilic comments, but I would like to point out that it would be a lot easier to follow your train of thought (?) if you quoted whoever you were responding to.

And if you don't have anything constructive, intelligent or even vaguely thoughtful to say, don't say it.

Thanks Burt, I do too. I'd hoped as the comment was directly below then it would have been pretty obvious who it was aimed at (and prefer not to have the massive long quoting post thing going on).

I rarely bite and my comment was deliberately at a lower level as I thought it was something that legs would probably understand. It's getting rather boring listening to his 'holier than thou', hard man image that he's trying to put across. He's basically been called out to put up or shut up but we all know he has no desire to do either...

[/quote]

And one other thing; when you're in a hole, stop digging. 

"It is better to be silent and thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt."

alansmurphy wrote:

Probably so we don't all think you're a bald, angry, little man whose wife ran off with an Audi salesman...

A full head of hair, which is surprising, really.  My father was almost completely bald at my age.  6'3'', although sadly, there's a fair bit of sideways expansion going on.  And I'll ask my wife if she's planning to run off with a twat.

As for 'angry', well since you've now 'followed' me around the site, posting spittle-flecked rants in responses to my comments in (IIRC) three different articles (a surprisingly common phenomenon on road.cc when someone takes exception to something someone else has written) which were neither directed at you, nor particularly 'contentious', I'd suggest that I'm not the one who's angry.  

Legs_Eleven_Worcester wrote:

alansmurphy wrote:

Probably so we don't all think you're a bald, angry, little man whose wife ran off with an Audi salesman...

A full head of hair, which is surprising, really.  My father was almost completely bald at my age.  6'3'', although sadly, there's a fair bit of sideways expansion going on.  And I'll ask my wife if she's planning to run off with a twat.

As for 'angry', well since you've now 'followed' me around the site, posting spittle-flecked rants in responses to my comments in (IIRC) three different articles (a surprisingly common phenomenon on road.cc when someone takes exception to something someone else has written) which were neither directed at you, nor particularly 'contentious', I'd suggest that I'm not the one who's angry.  

I was merely catching up on articles and you just so happen to have stereotyped people based on the car they drive (moronic as one of the threads had a Ford driver ramming a cyclist), joyfully claimed to have used physical force against people on 2 separate occassions (seriously we are all really impressed), and gone with your usual 'fuck everyone else' rhetoric.

The fact that you feel these things aren't contentious demonstrates that you're out of touch with the world. Then again, you probably think of that as a badge of honour which is equally sad...

alansmurphy]</p>

<p>[quote=Legs_Eleven_Worcester wrote:

alansmurphy wrote:

Probably so we don't all think you're a bald, angry, little man whose wife ran off with an Audi salesman...

A full head of hair, which is surprising, really.  My father was almost completely bald at my age.  6'3'', although sadly, there's a fair bit of sideways expansion going on.  And I'll ask my wife if she's planning to run off with a twat.

As for 'angry', well since you've now 'followed' me around the site, posting spittle-flecked rants in responses to my comments in (IIRC) three different articles (a surprisingly common phenomenon on road.cc when someone takes exception to something someone else has written) which were neither directed at you, nor particularly 'contentious', I'd suggest that I'm not the one who's angry.  

... and stupid.

Evidently too thick to know when you've been embarrassed and had your arse kicked, you keep at it.  

OK, then.  I'll leave you the last word.   You are just so kewl, show us all... 

alansmurphy wrote:

Probably so we don't all think you're a bald, angry, little man whose wife ran off with an Audi salesman...

Hey - you can't use "bald" pejoratively like that... you've hurt my feelings, you hairy devil.

"Come test the bad man" to quote the driver of GN02 AKO =]

alansmurphy wrote:

Probably so we don't all think you're a bald, angry, little man whose wife ran off with an Audi salesman...

Why the body-shaming?

Rick_Rude wrote:

Legs, please beat up a motorist and film it for us all to see. We are waiting.

Why would I want to do that?