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Road Rage Ninja Woman 2: The Director's Cut

Longer video with soundtrack shows incident in a rather different light

Additional footage posted to YouTube of an incident in the Gloucestershire countryside showing a black clad woman attempting to push a slow-pedalling cyclist off his bike, the subject of an appeal by local police as we reported earlier today, appears to cast events in a new light.

According to the video posted to the site on 17 April – it’s unclear if this is the specific clip that prompted the police appeal – the cyclist in question is a hunt supporter, deliberately riding slowly in the middle of the road to prevent a car containing hunt monitors from reaching the location where a hunt is taking place.

The video includes audio from the occupants of the car immediately following the cyclist, and it appears that he rode in this way for several minutes prior to the incident, along the way cycling past a passing place where, in ordinary circumstances, most cyclists pull over and let motor traffic past.

What the video does determine is that the woman who attempts to punch and kick the cyclist wasn’t in the first vehicle, whose occupants appear to be in radio contact with another person, and there’s no suggestion that she herself is known to them or indeed a hunt monitor.

The latter, who in the days before the Hunting Act would perhaps more typically have been termed hunt saboteurs, undertake monitoring of hunts on a voluntary basis to ensure that they comply with legislation banning the hunting of foxes with hounds, among other things, and there have been several cases of people associated with hunts being convicted of violence towards them.

The cyclist’s own action in this case, if the circumstances reported in the video are correct, are of course non-violent and certainly don’t excuse the actions of the woman in black; the background, however, including the length of time he rode at that pace and failure to stop at a passing place does provide context that help explain how the situation arose.

Thanks to road.cc user littlelegs for alerting us to the extended version of the YouTube film

Simon joined road.cc as news editor in 2009 and is now the site’s community editor, acting as a link between the team producing the content and our readers. A law and languages graduate, published translator and former retail analyst, he has reported on issues as diverse as cycling-related court cases, anti-doping investigations, the latest developments in the bike industry and the sport’s biggest races. Now back in London full-time after 15 years living in Oxford and Cambridge, he loves cycling along the Thames but misses having his former riding buddy, Elodie the miniature schnauzer, in the basket in front of him.

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chain_link | 12 years ago
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Without jumping to conclusions or taking sides, I think it would set a dangerous precedent to prosecute a cyclist for obstructing the highway.

The only circumstances under which it would seem resonable are if he were politely asked to let the following vehicles pass, and refused to do so. We don't know what happened outside of the variously edited videos and internet gossip.

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comm88 | 12 years ago
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I love it!! Don't hound the runner - reward her!! The guy on the bike should be dumped over the nearest hedge, preferably still attached to his bike!!! The drivers should have been blaring on their horns at him the whole way, but then again, one of them should have gotten out of the car and remonstrated with him about his attitude and behaviour.

Yep, I'd love to see more footage of the runner - nice buns, great figure and a real no-nonsense attitude. Btw, looking again at the footage, which part of the lady runner did the cyclist grab????? Would love to follow her on my bike - yum, yum!!!!

But a clown on a bike doing what he did is going to upset people driving cars and, frankly, he totally deserved a good smacking.

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Bob's Bikes | 12 years ago
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Just thought I better throw my hat in the ring on this one, the driver of the car being obstructed didn't once sound her horn! for all we know the guy could have been deaf (probably not, just awkward old so and so) isn't it fun to film your friends being what you think to be right when there was a very simple alternative. Also to really stir it up, why don't the townies go back home and leave countryside matters that they do not/will not understand to the people that actually live there.

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Cooks | 12 years ago
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Why was she not in the kitchen?

(hides...)

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Jon | 12 years ago
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This has nothing to do with someone attacking a cyclist and everything to do with the conflict between the hunt / and hunt monitors. I used to be a hunt sab about 20 years ago and it was terrier men with big sticks dishing out the aggro back in the day, not ninja ladies.

The funny thing is, I and many of my companions grew up in villages, but we regularly got the kind of "townies go home" comments of the kind FATBUGGER (above) seems to be bandying about.

I've got nothing against anyone killing to eat, but 30 hounds and a load of toffs on horseback should be taking on a pride of lions or a pack of wolves, surely, not one measly fox. I appreciate its contribution to the rural economy, but it's not exacly bringing out the best in people.

Anyway she didn't get violent until the guy grabbed her round the neck - it look like she was trying to make him veer to the left but he steered right then put his foot down. They just need to get 4 people out there to shepherd the man and his bike to the side of the road in a controlled manner, instead of relying on one person which is bound to result in a bit of argy bargy.

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AndrewRH | 12 years ago
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Random thoughts of days gone by, recalled after watching the video once (ie so I formed my thoughts on feelings as if I'm in that situation, not doing a detached 20/20 hindsight investigation)...

There once was a time when women wearing sexy clothing were blamed for being raped. They were asking for it, the saying went. I trust we are past blaming the victim.

A few years ago, there was a go-slow protest (about fuel prices) on the roads by lorry drivers. It was a way for them to protest peacefully.

Younger men have been known to wear tweed and ride their bicycles. This is usually done in groups as a quirky social event. Wearing Tweed does not necessarily mean you are old.

I wonder what would have happened if that road was occupied (blocked) - Would that have led to a more peaceful initial confrontation/dialog? Ie is there a frustration in making slow progress in a car versus no progress (ironically)?

Andrew

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Daclu Trelub | 12 years ago
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She is revealed...
http://preview.tinyurl.com/nice-arse-cracking-burd

Sorry about it being the Daily Rant

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Daclu Trelub | 12 years ago
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She is revealed...
h t t p ://preview.tinyurl.com/nice-arse-cracking-burd
Daily Rail, so sorry.

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Daclu Trelub | 12 years ago
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Doesn't make the slightest difference what his mode of transport was - he was a fool holding up the traffic deliberately and deserved a good shoeing.

ps. She does have a nice arse.

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burtthebike | 12 years ago
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Actually, he broke the law first, as he is clearly obstructing the highway, with malice aforethought. Whether that justifies being assaulted I wouldn't like to say, but it does make any assault understandable. We don't know if the people in the convoy of cars were just out for a Sunday drive or going to the deathbed of their dearly beloved parents or were getting to hospital for an emergency transplant. If there was someone on urgent business, then trying to prevent another person deliberately obstructing the Queen's highway could be seen as doing your public duty.

If the young lady is taken to court for assault, then he should also appear in court charged with obstructing the highway. Whether any assault was justified or not, he brought it upon himself by deliberately, consciously obstructing the highway, and has only himself to blame. Why he chose to do such a thing on a bicycle rather than use a motor vehicle is beyond me, but I would certainly concur with some of the pithier comments above.

If the young lady does end up in court, I'd happily contribute to her defence fund.

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Cooks | 12 years ago
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Shoulda sent Roberto Ferrari in...

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mr-andrew | 12 years ago
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Having rewound a re-watched a half dozen times, I'm still siding with the old geezer. The girl could have attempted to run past and ask him to stop, instead of pushing. If someone tried to push me off the road, I'd hit out too.

Also, +1 for my shame with all the 'nice arse' comments. WTF guys, seriously? This isn't the 1950's.

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faqibg | 12 years ago
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I personally think she's a runner trying to overtake a cyclist who was slowing her sub 3 hour marathon time!

I don't know why people assume she was part of the moving vehicle line.

If she was or wasn't being a prat in ANY situation would inspire people to assault you.

Great job to road.cc to point out their clarification of the situation and giving us another chance to enjoy the view of those buns.

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Denzil Dexter | 12 years ago
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Sakurashinmachi wrote:

The attack on the cyclist was plain and simple battery - the woman could have simply asked him to move out of the way but she didn't, she just went straight in and hit him.

Er, actually she went straight in and pushed him to try and get him out of the way, the first person to raise their hand was him, she doesn't even land a blow and the kick was aimed at the bike. Let's try and stick to the facts shall we. Oh, and maybe a bit of perspective would help too - it's a msssive leap to say that the person who posted the video thinks it's okay to assault" cyclists who are annoying - at most they think it's okay to "assault" this particular cyclist.

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Sakurashinmachi replied to Denzil Dexter | 12 years ago
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"Er, actually she went straight in and pushed him to try and get him out of the way .... Let's try and stick to the facts shall we."

Er, actually, as a fact, that pushing is assault.

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Sakurashinmachi | 12 years ago
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The attack on the cyclist was plain and simple battery - the woman could have simply asked him to move out of the way but she didn't, she just went straight in and hit him.

Whoever posted the attack on YouTube obviously approves of the attack - the heading and music make that abundantly clear. But violence is either wrong per se or it isn't: you can't have it both ways. What whoever posted the attack doesn't seem to have considered is that if someone found the hunt monitors or saboteurs annoying, by the same token or logic they would be entitled to attack them.

And the message for cyclists is that as far as the people who posted the video are concerned, it's not OK to hurt foxes but it is OK to assault cyclists who are "annoying".

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GilesBradshaw | 12 years ago
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She isn't a hunt monitor she is a hunt sab which is slightly different. I know because I've been discussing her activities with her on facebook. As for all this 'police are investigating' BS don't believe everything you hear. They are perfectly well aware of who she is.

Moreover this video was posted by Judy Gilbert - a hunt monitor. The hunt sab is on her friends list.

I'm really unconvinced by the arguments that this is right. Whatever the guy was doing it is wrong to simply shove people out of your way.

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maxburgoyne | 12 years ago
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So their protest is noble yet he is arrogant in making his? Hypocrisy alert

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A V Lowe | 12 years ago
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The initial move of the girl is th attempt to push the cyclists to the side of the road. In this sense it was a flawed tactic - there should have been 2 people in a pincher move who closed in and grabbed the handlebars, and keeping a slightly faster momentum would have than simply steered the bike to the side of the road, keeping shoulder to shoulder with the man on the bike. Seen that technique used by Royal Protection to 'steer' a guy with shotgun into the parcels office when royals got off train in highlands one each side walking same pace and close but not touching....

No doubt skilled peloton teams will have similar techniques for boxing in,,,

Given the video and length of time he was doing this a strong case for a charge of obstructing the highway, and possibly behavior liable to cause a breach of the peace

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fretters | 12 years ago
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+1 for nice arse  105

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GilesBradshaw replied to fretters | 12 years ago
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"+1 for nice arse "

The cyclist's or the lady's?

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fretters replied to GilesBradshaw | 12 years ago
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GilesBradshaw wrote:

"+1 for nice arse "

The cyclist's or the lady's?

difficult call, but the lady's.

Just  21

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TheBigMong | 12 years ago
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She was clearly attempting to have sex with this poor, innocent man, and he had to summon all his strength to curb her advances.

But it's not entirely her fault--she had been unwillingly subjected to a prolonged viewing of his powerful, verile, masculine physique (a view of the posterior IN MOTION, no less!) What woman could resist such tempation? It happens to me all the time!

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OldRidgeback | 12 years ago
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Even if the guy does follow the Berkshire Hunt, it doesn't warrant the attack.

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TheHatter | 12 years ago
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When it boils down to it this was a tiny little scuffle not an assault that anyone would want to see go to court. At first she was just pushing him which is not assault and worse goes on at a rush hour tube stations every day. The man escalated it into feeble blows but if a policeman was there he would most probably have told them both to calm down, move on and concentrate on their fantasy cycling teams which is also the advice I intend to follow.

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robert_obrien | 12 years ago
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I'm seeing a young woman, probably from a car containing at least one other young person, attack an old man on a bike. He may well be deaf. At no point do I see or hear any attempt to get his attention, e.g. car horns, before the attack. The girl doesn't run past him to get in his field of vision and talk to him. She just attacks. Mind you, I'm nearer his age than hers so I'm probably biased.

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Simon_MacMichael | 12 years ago
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Farrell wrote: "He could, after all, be a local who thinks "I live round here and cycle round here all the time, why should I be bullied off the road by a load of people speeding round trying to make a name for themselves"?"

I didn't see the car immediately behind him bullying him, quite the contrary, it was keeping its distance. I ride on a lot on similar roads (rather quicker than he does), and I'd have pulled over at that passing place. I like motorists where I can see them

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Quoting again: "We're making assumptions here, the convoy of cars that were all linked up via a radio system and were getting so het up about being slowed to 5 miles an hour that sending someone out to assault someone else seemed like a reasonable thing to do may have spent the day driving sensibly and not hooning around the countryside."

There's some pretty big assumptions being made right there...

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farrell replied to Simon_MacMichael | 12 years ago
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Simon_MacMichael wrote:

I didn't see the car immediately behind him bullying him, quite the contrary, it was keeping its distance. I ride on a lot on similar roads (rather quicker than he does), and I'd have pulled over at that passing place. I like motorists where I can see them

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I would have pulled over too, and yes, they were keeping back, albeit calling him an idiot, an arse, arrogant and a complete prick at the same time. I was suggesting that he could have been holding the traffic up, simply because he didnt like non-locals interfering with his day. I wasnt excusing his riding.

Simon_MacMichael wrote:

There's some pretty big assumptions being made right there...

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That was the tongue in cheek point I was making.

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Simon_MacMichael replied to farrell | 12 years ago
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farrell wrote:

That was the tongue in cheek point I was making.

Sorry, long day  3

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JohnS replied to farrell | 12 years ago
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farrell wrote:
Simon_MacMichael wrote:

I didn't see the car immediately behind him bullying him, quite the contrary, it was keeping its distance. I ride on a lot on similar roads (rather quicker than he does), and I'd have pulled over at that passing place. I like motorists where I can see them

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I would have pulled over too, and yes, they were keeping back, albeit calling him an idiot, an arse, arrogant and a complete prick at the same time. I was suggesting that he could have been holding the traffic up, simply because he didnt like non-locals interfering with his day. I wasnt excusing his riding.

Simon_MacMichael wrote:

There's some pretty big assumptions being made right there...

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That was the tongue in cheek point I was making.

That was far from obvious.

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