Simon joined road.cc as news editor in 2009 and is now the site’s community editor, acting as a link between the team producing the content and our readers. A law and languages graduate, published translator and former retail analyst, he has reported on issues as diverse as cycling-related court cases, anti-doping investigations, the latest developments in the bike industry and the sport’s biggest races. Now back in London full-time after 15 years living in Oxford and Cambridge, he loves cycling along the Thames but misses having his former riding buddy, Elodie the miniature schnauzer, in the basket in front of him.
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People have been fighting to get the law changed for years now yet no Govt has the balls to do it.
A private members bill is probably the only way to get it through but then it will be classed as political suicide by any MP who tries to push it through.
Its like the gun lobby in USA the car / motor vehicle lobby over here have a lot of clout.
At times people on here amaze me with their complete lack of knowledge.
Also its quite sad if you think because the IP was a cop the offender got a greater sentence.
I could give a multitude of experiences and accounts where this can be disproved.
The more of these incidents we report the more I wonder why there is a separate class of motoring offences for incidents involving drivers killing or injuring other road users through dangerous or careless driving. Wouldn't it be more just and appropriate simply to charge them with manslaughter, criminal manslaughter or assault and or one of the other offences against the person or even to create a new one if necessary.
Dangerous driving is a criminal offence - so if someone kills whild doing it it would surely make more sense to charge them with Dangerous driving and criminal manslaughter.
I couldn't agree more. In France if you kill someone with a car the charge is manslaughter, over here it's regarded as a motoring offence.
It surely is ridiculous that a person who admits dangerous driving and failing to stop gets only 15 months inside but it seems the judge had more to say about the sentence than originally reported.
He told Graham that it was the maximum he could pass and added that it may seem, "ridiculously short for such a grave crime but it is all that I can give with the restrictions placed upon me".
If judges are beginning to comment on sentencing guidelines maybe there is still some hope of them being properly reviewed and updated.
Where does it say that he got more of a sentence because the victim was a cop? The judiciary in my experience are terrified of appeals - it harms their career if they get something wrong. Sentencing being biaised because of the victims job would be clear grounds for an appeal.
I can't in all honesty say that the police wouldn't make an extra effort because he's one of their own, but claims that most civillians would not have the offender found, clearly fail to take note of the news reports of all those who do get found and prosecuted, even if it is with lesser offences on CPS advice.
Unfortunately it costs more to jail them then ban them. Happy to see 6 years. It would be great as a minimum for causing serious harm after proven bad driving - perhaps with another 3 years for leaving the scene and another 3 years for having no insurance?
If you lose you job with your licence - tough. As an employer I wouldn't want to employ anyone responsible for hit and run anyway. With no licence you can then get the bus - or even use a bike instead.
All makes sense to me!
In this crazy judicial world of ours I would rather have seen 6 years gaol and fifteen months driving ban, obviously he wouldn't be able to drive while in gaol, just making a point about the daft system of sentencing.
How can this guy be allowed on the roads again? If he kills or maims again then the home secretary is going to have a difficult discussion with the victim's family.
Agree with the other comments....would appear they treat things more seriously according to who is injured...look after your own and all that!!! Glad they got him and hope the cyclist recovers but lets see some consistency is sentencing and all incidents like these being taken seriously.
I was knocked off a few years back and whilst the driver stopped and details were taken, when i wrote to his insurance company they informed me he had started his policy the day AFTER hitting me and knocking me flying across the road after pulling out of a junction and hitting me from behind! The Police were informed and went round to see him only to be told 'he comes and goes and dont really live here anymore'. Case closed as far as Police were concerned, could not be bothered to waste resources on it.
They could have had an easy nick for no insurance, driving without due care etc but just not interested. Surely as they had his personal details they could have traced his work address and shown up there?!?! Maybe i am naive but bet they would have followed it up if it was 'one of their own'!!!!
I think we need lifetime driving bans for people like this.
If someone had a gun licence and recklessly discharged it, injuring someone, they would never get one again.
A 15 month sentence will (if I understand it correctly) result in 7.5 months assuming he behaves himself inside.
Hmmm. Which would you rather have? 7.5 months prison or 10 months (and counting) round the clock care?
Agree with all comments above! Plus, I had never heard of a 6 year ban before! Most drivers are banned for two years!
It's quite worrying that sentences handed out take into consideration who the victim is (VIP victims), than the crime itself.
Some cyclists are more equal than others.
We're getting there - now this sentence becomes a precedent for other similar cases. Something to build on.
slowly, maybe .....
I wouldn't call 15 months a heavy sentence. Admittedly higher than if the injured party was a mere mortal, but still nowhere near severe enough.
While I applaud the jail term it would be nice to see this kind of justice applied equally. Drivers have killed cyclists and escaped heavy sentences, if the injured rider had been a civilian would we have seen such a determined effort by the Police to find the person responsible? Would we have seen a jail term handed down? Past events suggest no.
What he said.
Yes indeed, your general run of the mill member of the public doesn't get such attention when injured in an accident.
I hope the injured cop recovers.
Agreed. The evidence speaks for itself. Most injured civvies would be lucky if the perp was ever caught let alone charged and sentenced. Don't know the details but most of these cases result in a charge of 'careless not 'dangerous' driving, which often attracts a heavier sentence.
Most cyclists would probably agree that more of these cases should be charged with the latter offence but the CPS argue there is often too little evidence to support the successful prosecution of the more serious offence. At least the tosser was sent down . Should have been banned for life, though.