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Phil Liggett says Lance Armstrong's accusers were motivated by jealousy

Veteran commentator also insists South Australia government got value for money on appearance fees it paid

Veteran commentator Phil Liggett says that Lance Armstrong’s accusers were motivated by jealousy and that the South Australian government’s decision to pay the rider millions of dollars to come and ride the Tour Down Under was money well spent.

"There was a jealousy in the team," said Liggett, quoted on Adelaide Now. It was not reported whether he mentioned anyone by name, but he was presumably referring to the former US Postal team mates of Armstrong who had testified against him to the United States Anti Doping Agency.

"Why did his best mates all of a sudden go against him? I think Lance was keeping the biggest slice of the cake and living the lifestyle of an 'A' class celebrity," he went on.

Liggett made his comments at the South Australia Press Club in Adelaide ahead of the start of the 2013 edition of the race, which he is commentating on alongside Paul Sherwen.

Blood doping expert Michael Ashenden has accused the Tour Down Under of “prostituting itself” through the appearance fees it paid Armstrong.

But Liggett insists the South Australia government was in the same position as Armstrong’s former sponsors such as Nike in that they had all benefited from their association with him prior to his fall from grace, saying, “

In the case of South Australia, he maintained, the investment of sums estimated at between A$3 million and A$9 million in the three years Armstrong rode the race had been money well spent.

“I think Lance gave them their money's worth even though it wasn't quite in the way we thought," he added.

Liggett prospered during the Armstrong years as his and Sherwen’s commentary became syndicated in English-speaking countries worldwide, including the United States.

He seemed slower than most media figures to come round to the idea that the cyclist might be guilty of doping, last year branding USADA as a “nefarious local drugs agency.”

Sherwen formerly worked as a press officer at Motorola, Armstrong’s team in the mid-1990s, and the rider and, it is thought, Liggett, invested in a gold mine run by Sherwen in Uganda.

With their voices familiar to cycling fans in the United States as a result of their Tour de France commentary, both Sherwen and Liggett have been paid to speak at fundraisers for Livestrong, the charity founded by Armstrong.

Simon joined road.cc as news editor in 2009 and is now the site’s community editor, acting as a link between the team producing the content and our readers. A law and languages graduate, published translator and former retail analyst, he has reported on issues as diverse as cycling-related court cases, anti-doping investigations, the latest developments in the bike industry and the sport’s biggest races. Now back in London full-time after 15 years living in Oxford and Cambridge, he loves cycling along the Thames but misses having his former riding buddy, Elodie the miniature schnauzer, in the basket in front of him.

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droshky | 11 years ago
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Liggett: ridiculous, retire, or at least take a back seat. But Sean, for all that I'll always admire him above all other sports persons, has never been guilty of uttering a syllable on drugs in cycling. Omertà? a bit chatty.

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sanderville | 11 years ago
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"I think Lance was keeping the biggest slice of the cake and living the lifestyle of an 'A' class celebrity,"

A "Class A" celebrity, surely?

Last season I said what stinking vermin are Liggett and Sherwin when the gold mine story came out. I repeat my disgust now.

It's a shame that they are now on Sky Sports, whose crap coverage is showing the TDU this year. Mind you, they are probably Rupert Murdoch's idea of upstanding guys.

Come back, Carlton - verbal diarrheoa and all.

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Simon_MacMichael replied to sanderville | 11 years ago
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Sanderville wrote:

It's a shame that they are now on Sky Sports, whose crap coverage is showing the TDU this year.

It's a syndicated feed, host broadcaster is Channel Nine, Liggett & Sherwen work for them on the race and are involved in race PR. Not sure if it would have been an option for anyone send their own commentators out there.

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GerardR | 11 years ago
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Thanks, Phil: bye, now.

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American tifosi | 11 years ago
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 45 Hasen't Phil been around since flip-flop hubs and all wool kits ? Old announcers are like fish, if it stays in your icebox too long, it starts to smell.

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aljohn | 11 years ago
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I hate to say it, but I've always enjoyed Paul and Phil on the Tour. I'm probably a lot older than most of you and can remember , with total satisfaction, when the Tour was first on the tv. Before that we had zilch! It's the one "must see" tv in the year. I've not seen Liggett's comments until I read these comments tonight.
Perhaps Phil is still reluctant to see the loss of one of his heroes, I know I am. Obviously times have changed and we now have Cav and Wiggo to cheer. I'm convinced that they're clean, they would probably be lynched by British cyclists if they were'nt....

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rideforfun | 11 years ago
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I've not read all the comments here so sorry if I'm repeating stuff but it's very sad to see Phil Liggett apparently supporting Lance Armstrong. The punishment for Armstrong is severe but it seems that it is his whole attitude and behaviour in recent years, not just the fact that he kept winnign the tour on drugs, that has led to such a mighty downfall.

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dullard | 11 years ago
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@Colin Peyresourde

Agree entirely, Mr P. Liggett's commentary is like listening to your grandfather trying to remember his shopping list. Harmon is up there with those sports commentary greats, Johnners, Blowers, CM-J and Aggers, Ted Lowe, Dan Maskell, Walker and Hunt, and Toby and Julian (Eurosport motorcycling) by comparison. Though his sidekick, Kelly's curmudgeonly grunts have become increasingly irksome. For my own part, after all the doping shenanigans last year, I've now got shot of the Eurosport option as my belief that the cycling we get now is real (viz one Peter Sagan, if he's clean, I'm the Pope) is very thin so now point paying for a channel exclusively for a sport that you're stretched to believe in. So I'll probably catch a bit of the Tour (especially if the little cheating pistol boy isn't riding) on ITV4 hopefully with another commentary team but with the sound muted if it's still Laurel and Hardy.

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Valentino | 11 years ago
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I'm glad Kimmage still has an interest in cycling. Getting sued by Pat & Hein is a badge of honour, really.

I cannot help thinking how much better Chasing Legends would have been without Phil & Paul.

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Bigfoz | 11 years ago
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C'mon Phil, get over it man. LA's admitted it. Not just the doping, but the bullying and manipulation and serial lying. Whatever the motivation, it still needed out. The omerta needed to be broken and people brought to account. Time to move on and admit you were taken for a huge ride and made an *ss of yourself.

There was an interesting article on VeloNews about how LA underestimated how dangerous an enemy he was making of Landis - http://velonews.competitor.com/2013/01/news/walsh-on-armstrong-landis-wa...) when Landis asked for help after his 2006 bust, and LA apparently told him to "go forth and multiply".

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cat1commuter | 11 years ago
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Are Phil and Paul still used for commentary in the US? I'd love to see the back of them. They're not the worst commentators (Carlton Kirby is), but there are plenty of better commentators out there. I'd employ Daniel Lloyd.

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Brummmie | 11 years ago
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David Walsh - Jealous
Paul Kimmage - Jealous
Emma O'Reilly - Jealous
Betsy Adreau - Jealous
Greg Lemond - Jealous

I could go on obviously.

Ligget believes the reason these people wanted to OUT THE BULLY as a CHEAT AND A LIAR is jealousy !

Ligget is as mentally ill as Lance !

Ligget is a FUCKING IDIOT.... SIMPLES !

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Rushie replied to Brummmie | 11 years ago
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Brummmie wrote:

David Walsh - Jealous
Paul Kimmage - Jealous
Emma O'Reilly - Jealous
Betsy Adreau - Jealous
Greg Lemond - Jealous

I could go on obviously.

Ligget believes the reason these people wanted to OUT THE BULLY as a CHEAT AND A LIAR is jealousy !

Ligget is as mentally ill as Lance !

Ligget is a FUCKING IDIOT.... SIMPLES !

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festival replied to Brummmie | 11 years ago
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Brummmie wrote:

David Walsh - Jealous
Paul Kimmage - Jealous
Emma O'Reilly - Jealous
Betsy Adreau - Jealous
Greg Lemond - Jealous

I could go on obviously.

Ligget believes the reason these people wanted to OUT THE BULLY as a CHEAT AND A LIAR is jealousy !

Ligget is as mentally ill as Lance !

Ligget is a FUCKING IDIOT.... SIMPLES !

I think you have hit the nail on the head.

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The Rumpo Kid | 11 years ago
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I recall Phil Liggett saying he could prove that "agents" were offering riders bribes to testify against Armstong. A straightforward lie. If you're not part of the solution...

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Dog72 | 11 years ago
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He's just another Person who's dreams have been shattered. Give him a break, not everyone is as objective, rational and well informed like atypical forum posters.

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ianswindon | 11 years ago
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He is past his sell by date now, use to have so much respect for him, now he's gone all David icke, turquoise shell suit next??

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harrybav | 11 years ago
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The ill-informed tabloid layman nature of many of these knee-jerking comments is a warm testament to how widely popular big money pro cycling has become. It's a business and a brand, just like Formula 1, snooker, or Big Daddy pro wrestling, and it'd be naive to think there's not a heap of pragmatic decisions being made within the races as well as the sport, even now.

Those saying they'll choose another commentator based on doping stance might want to read about those other commentators' own pasts a little.

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Sam1 replied to harrybav | 11 years ago
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vbvb wrote:

The ill-informed tabloid layman nature of many of these knee-jerking comments is a warm testament to how widely popular big money pro cycling has become. It's a business and a brand, just like Formula 1, snooker, or Big Daddy pro wrestling, and it'd be naive to think there's not a heap of pragmatic decisions being made within the races as well as the sport, even now.

Those saying they'll choose another commentator based on doping stance might want to read about those other commentators' own pasts a little.

What dirty secrets do Dave Harmon and Carlton Kirby harbour? You've got me worried now  1

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Colin Peyresourde replied to harrybav | 11 years ago
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I suppose you're referencing Sean Kelly's prominence in the latest David Walshe outing?

I don't think many of these comments are ill-informed. Many people have repeatedly said they dislike Liggett and Sherwen. I prefer Eurosport everyday of the week, but I can't be bothered with purchasing the Sky package.

You are right that people have protected the brand, and some comments (e.g. those of Eddy Merckx claiming to be shocked about Armstrong, even after having introduced him to Dr Michele Ferrari) appear to be tremendously naive.

Cycling is such a lucrative sport these days because of Armstrong, and it has become a multi-million pound industry because of his backers. But for those of us who followed cycling before Armstrong, before the Festina affair saw Armstrong's performance, read Walshe's articles and knew the truth, and saw how Armstrong (in particular) crushed cycling. Liggett in particular is such a self-interested insular donkey that he has nothing interesting to say about the sport anymore, and has been spectacularly blind to Armstrong.

His commentary is positively geriatric, but that fact that he comes out with these statements is idiotic and stupid to say the least, and those that love and know their cycling wish he would be gently moved to one side.

Murray Walker he isn't!

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JulesW | 11 years ago
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If they were motivated by jealousy then surely this would have come out years ago. Most seem to have been keen to clear their name all for the cost of a 6 month out of season suspension and possible book contracts. Thos who ride with him were happy to ride in the strongest, most successful team and presumably share teh high winnings and annual contracts.

I have heard people say that LA has been lying for over 15 years hence his inability to realise how much damage he had done to those who stood in his path. He will show little empathy for a good while.

In the same vein, Phil Liggett has been LA's vocal supporter for almost as long. He cannot see LA as a criminal with huger personality defects. He was a member of his inner circle after all. He needs to say sorry just as much as Lance does and with conviction.

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crazy-legs | 11 years ago
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Phil Liggett - never mind the LA debate, he's just past it, has been for a few years now. His commentary has been woeful verging on cringeworthy - missing breaks or other race action, confusing the identity of riders, mis-pronouncing names.

Problem is he's a "name". It's Paul and Phil who between them conquered the entire US cycling commentary market thanks to LA.

Never underestimate just how interlinked everyone is in this. A lot of people seem to think LA = archvillain but the network is far far murkier than that. Have a look at this link - LA and his associates pretty much run US Cycling, a lot of the media and have a huge influence in politics. It's hardly surprising Phil has been defending him to the hilt.
http://www.cyclismas.com/2012/06/lance-armstrongs-business-links-a-flowc...

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badback | 11 years ago
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You'd have thought working in media that they ought to know when to keep their views to themselves.

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BigDummy | 11 years ago
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It seems pretty clear that Landis and Hamilton at least were in no way motivated by "jealousy". Rather, they eventually blew off steam because they simply did not want to keep lying. Lance pretends he feels the same, but it isn't terribly convincing.

And George Hincapie was so "jealous" of Lance that he loyaly stayed put on the man's teams for years.

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antonio | 11 years ago
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Time for these two to take over top spot in the next series of 'Spitting Image', now that would be funny.

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mick intherain | 11 years ago
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Muppets. I wonder what the working conditions are like in the mine? Who cares as long as you get your money eh Phil!

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Rupert49 | 11 years ago
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Very bored now. Move on  37

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fiftyacorn | 11 years ago
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Phil - if your in a hole stop digging

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alotronic | 11 years ago
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Shut up Phil, every extra word is just a bad idea. Don't you have an agent or something to help you through this?

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davidtcycle | 11 years ago
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Is it possible for Liggett to be anymore of a Pratt? Somehow he found a way, no matter what it took.

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