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What's worse? The painted cycle lane or this police close pass?; Good Wheel Hunting; road.cc Everesting; Denmark asks citizens to donate bicycles to Ukrainian refugees; Have pro teams read the wrong Milano-Torino profile? + more on the live blog

Hmmm Dan Alexander is doing his best to remember what the live blog is...once he's figured that out he should be providing the Wednesday updates.....
16 March 2022, 17:54
Crossing the finish line of another day at work like...
Mark Cavendish wins Milano-Torino (Image credit: Tim De Waele/ Getty Images/ Quick-Step Alpha Vinyl)

We'll leave you with some pictures of Cav's win in Italy this afternoon...

Mark Cavendish wins Milano-Torino (Image credit: Tim De Waele/ Getty Images/ Quick-Step Alpha Vinyl)

Definitely no San-Remo for the Manx Missile. Fabio Jakobsen will be Quick-Step Alpha Vinyl's sprint option if, for whatever reason, Tadej doesn't just ride 50km solo...

At the finish, Cav said: "I like winning races, it doesn’t matter. For a one-day race you have to be dialled – there’s only one opportunity. I had a solid and motivated team around me and this made the difference. They rode incredibly today, controlled the race and allowed me to remain calm." 

"It’s the first time I’ve raced Milano-Torino and it makes me happy to have it in my palmares now, alongside another big Classic, Milano-Sanremo. Not many sprinters have done that. I knew I had an opportunity to win it today and I am delighted with how things panned out. To see my name on the winners’ list is quite special."

16 March 2022, 17:40
"This is the problem of having painted cycle lane": Reaction to the police close pass and painted infra
Police close pass (screenshot The Cycling Nerd/Twitter video)

Time for some of your thoughts and comments about our main blog story of the day...

Not everyone who rides a bike thought the pass was particularly bad, but even some of those who didn't accepted paint is not infrastructure...

On Facebook, Graham Adams commented: "What close pass? Hardly that bad and to be fair, most police drivers are far more skilled than some behind the wheel. As for the 'cycle lane', just a white line that does nothing to protect a rider."

But Andrew Frogley reckons the attitude above sums up the problem with painted cycle lanes: "This is the problem of having painted cycle lanes and using them — you’re in your lane — and the passing vehicle is in theirs — their lane is not obstructed, so it’s safe to continue regardless of how close to the other road users they are."

Under the blog, Global Nomad commented: "I think we need to differentiate between traffic police who should have advanced driver training and ordinary police cars whose drivers are no different to any other driver — with the proviso that they should know the law/regulations... That driver was the same one who would do that in their own car."

sean1 shared some research: (Adams/Aldred 2020   Cycle Injury Risk in London)

"...painted cycle lanes did not reduce injury. Mandatory painted lanes did not lead to any risk reduction and advisory lanes (which motor vehicles are legally permitted to enter) increased injury odds by over 30%." 

16 March 2022, 15:43
I'm not an expert in cycling, but...
16 March 2022, 15:23
Cav wins Milano-Torino — becomes first British man to win the world's oldest classic

Quick-Step Alpha Vinyl read the parcours...

Mark Cavendish is the first British rider to win Milano-Torino, outsprinting Alexander Kristoff and Nacer Bouhanni. He may not be in the line-up for Milan-San Remo, but at least he got his Italian classic win.

Best narrative of the day, however, goes to EF Education-EasyPost who seemingly brought the wrong team to the race (or maybe all their fast men are just preoccupied with Saturday's Monument). The band of climbers propelled Jonas Rutsch to 29th on the day. 

16 March 2022, 14:48
How the cycling community is supporting Ukraine

Earlier on the blog we shared the news that the Danish government has called on its citizens to donate bicycles to help Ukrainian refugees arriving in the country. But what other cycling-related initiatives supporting Ukraine are out there?

> “Fight Putin – Ride a Bike” meme in support of Ukraine goes viral

New York brand Rubber N' Road has released a batch of T-shirts with the 'Ride Bikes Not Tanks' message printed on the front. Priced at $40, 100 per cent of proceeds are going to the Ukrainian Red Cross Society.

Indoor cycling app Rouvy also launched its 'Ride for Ukraine' challenge which will donate €1 for every rider who completes the 10km Ride for Ukraine route.

Cyclists in Bedford, including riders from Ampthill, Hitchin, Cambridge, Peterborough and St Ives, have planned a 15-mile ride from the town to St Neots this Sunday. Bedford Today reports the group is aiming to raise £10,000 for the DEC Ukraine appeal.

16 March 2022, 14:33
WARNING: Following photo may cause extreme ride-envy — best avoided if somewhere in grey Britain...
16 March 2022, 12:58
Former champion Julian Alaphilippe out of Milan-San Remo through illness

2019 champion Julian Alaphilippe will miss Saturday's opening Monument of the year, Milan-San Remo, after suffering bronchitis and a fever. The double world champ told fans: "Sad to leave the team, especially after a hard week of racing at Tirreno-Adriatico where I felt the legs were coming back despite my crash at Strade Bianche. Rest and patience on the program now. See you soon."

Alaphilippe has three times finished on the podium at Milan-San Remo, including his maiden Monument win three years ago. The second favourite in tomorrow's 14:10 at Cheltenham is called Alaphilippe...so maybe it's all a smokescreen for a career change...

16 March 2022, 09:56
What's worse? The painted cycle lane or this police close pass?

It's one of the most commonly heard criticisms of painted cycling infrastructure we hear...overtaking road users don't give cyclists using a painted lane 1.5m gap because, well, there's a line on the road. If you're in a whole different lane to me then it must be fine for me to overtake...

It's why some would rather have no cycle infrastructure at all than just a painted 'lane'. It's also presumably why this police officer didn't think much about waiting beyond the pedestrian crossing to overtake.

Had they then they might have seen the upcoming roundabout and decided just to wait. Note the use of 'might' in that sentence...

The Cycling Nerd has reported the footage to the Independent Office for Police Conduct, we'll keenly await that response...

As if to prove the point about how road users view painted cycle lanes...

So what do we reckon? Would the road be safer without the painted lane? (I think I already know your answer)...

16 March 2022, 12:10
A road.cc Everesting — Liam conquers Ralph Allen Drive (68 times)
Liam Everesting

Everyone go be nice to Liam on Strava...

If you watch road.cc on YouTube and were climbing Ralph Allen Drive in Bath yesterday, you may have spotted a familiar face suffering up the 10 per cent average gradient. Liam's 68 ascents racked up 8,867m of climbing, earning him a place in the Everesting hall of fame.

Liam Everesting

"How are the legs?" I perhaps stupidly asked...I mean, what's he going to say? Turns out it's not just the legs...

"Absolutely ruined. I have a wrist strain, my left hamstring is no more, left knee pain, feet are cramping, neck it fucked, abs are sore and triceps are tight." 

Last July, Liam achieved his life goal of becoming the best cyclist in the world by stealing Tadej Pogačar's KOM on the 110m top section of Luz-Ardiden...that's how it works, right? It's nice to think that even as the two-time Tour champion, you can still have your day ruined by the dreaded 'Uh oh!' email in your inbox...

> Check out Tadej Pogacar’s rim brake Colnago V3Rs

16 March 2022, 10:46
Good Wheel Hunting

Get it? Good Wheel Hunting? Like...Good Will Hunting...but, Good Wheel Hunting? Right, okay, you got it...ah, okay, I'll see myself out... 

16 March 2022, 10:33
Have pro teams read the wrong Milano-Torino profile?

 It's Milano-Torino today, the race which can claim to be the oldest cycling classic in the world, dating back to 1876. Alejandro Valverde came fourth that year...

Last year, Primož Roglič won (well it was going to be him or Pogačar, wasn't it?) as the race finished up the traditional finish line ascent of the Superga. It's the climb that has seen Michael Woods, Thibaut Pinot, Rigoberto Urán, Miguel Ángel López and Alberto Contador win in recent times. However, this year the race doesn't finish up the Superga. In fact, it doesn't have any climbs at all...

It seems someone forgot to tell EF Education–EasyPost...

So, who's sprinting? Chaves or Carthy? Bora-hansgrohe went one further and actually shared the wrong profile on Twitter. Who's going to tell them?

16 March 2022, 10:30
Voting in the most Dutch way I can
16 March 2022, 08:55
Denmark asks citizens to donate bicycles to Ukrainian refugees
Denmark's donate a bike scheme

Denmark's Ministry of Transport has joined with the Cyclists' Association to help citizens donate bicycles to Ukrainian refugess. The Give a Bicycle (Giv en cykel) scheme set up last week allows Danes to donate their old or unused bikes to "help newcomers move around more easily".

All citizens have to do is upload a photograph of the bike, as well as some details about its size and condition, before it is collected by volunteers who will match it with a new owner. Refugees arriving from Ukraine simply have to fill out a form to request a bike.

The website asks Danes to "makes a difference — give a bike", adding "Denmark is a cycling country, and the bicycle is an everyday means of transport for many Danes.

"Join us in welcoming Ukrainian refugees to Denmark and Danish cycling culture. Donate your own, used bicycle — and help newly arrived refugees from Ukraine get a bicycle so they can easily explore their new surroundings."

National chairman of the Cyclists' Association Jens Peter Hansen said: "We can make a difference. As cyclists, we know how the bicycle gives us the freedom to get around. I hope that many of our members and other volunteers have the desire and opportunity to help people who have had to leave everything."

The website also includes a section on 'Danish cycling culture' with a full list of traffic rules and requirements which may differ to those in Ukraine.

Dan is the road.cc news editor and joined in 2020 having previously written about nearly every other sport under the sun for the Express, and the weird and wonderful world of non-league football for The Non-League Paper. Dan has been at road.cc for four years and mainly writes news and tech articles as well as the occasional feature. He has hopefully kept you entertained on the live blog too.

Never fast enough to take things on the bike too seriously, when he's not working you'll find him exploring the south of England by two wheels at a leisurely weekend pace, or enjoying his favourite Scottish roads when visiting family. Sometimes he'll even load up the bags and ride up the whole way, he's a bit strange like that.

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AlsoSomniloquism | 2 years ago
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I'm surprised Road.cc haven't done an article on the Andy Cox Challenge. He has raised 25k for the Roadpeace charity so far. He did 50k last year. 

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Hirsute | 2 years ago
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https://twitter.com/MPSRoyal_Parks/status/1503757560570167298

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horse -> car -> cyclist

Apparently the cyclist was over taking the car although I'm not sure that was the best plan.

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Global Nomad | 2 years ago
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I think we need to differentiate between traffic police who should have advanced driver training and ordinary police cars whose drivers are no different to any other driver - with the proviso that they should know the law/regulations... That driver was the same one who would do that in their own car. 
it was also clear the police car was moving across the lane at the roundabout and yet the cyclist decided to go down the narrowing gap out of principle....instead of staying back and shouting...clearly the drivers attention was the other way. 

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lesterama replied to Global Nomad | 2 years ago
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Driving without due care and attention?

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Adam Sutton | 2 years ago
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The problem with the painted cycle lanes here is the council treat them like a gutter extension, and reason to not bother sweeping the road. One along a dual carriageway is particularly bad, and you end up dodging into the traffic at points.

The footpath is designated shared use fortunately so I have been using that for safety sake, but that just riles the "why don't you use the cycle lane" brigade. I shared some photos on a local FB group when someone was saying this and they were quite shocked. He messaged me, as after our conversation he saw a road sweeper. It made us both wonder if the coucil saw it and did something, but as I say today after the recent storms etc it is back to beind full of debris. Couple that with the lights being out on the worst section and dangerous to use.

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sean1 | 2 years ago
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Various studies have concluded painted cycling infrastructure either doesn't improve safety or actually makes it more dangerous.

e.g. Adams/Aldred 2020   Cycle Injury Risk in London

".....painted cycle lanes did not reduce injury. Mandatory painted lanes did not lead to any risk reduction and advisory lanes (which motor vehicles are legally permitted to enter) increased injury odds by over 30%." 

https://westminsterresearch.westminster.ac.uk/item/v2x70/cycling-injury-...

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IanMK | 2 years ago
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It's not just painted cycle lanes that are a joke. Last year I did some walking in Norfolk. Walking on the pavement along the A149 is genuinely scary. Tiny single file pavements with heavy goods vehicles travelling at 40mph + inches from your elbow. You wouldn't want your kids or even their grand parents anywhere near it.
The highway code should really make it clear that drivers should keep their vehicles 1.5m from any vulnerable road users regardless of them having a separate lane.

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AlsoSomniloquism replied to IanMK | 2 years ago
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That is the trouble when roads stay narrow but vehicles get wider and wider and it isn't just in the countryside. I was walking along this section on the way home after dropping my bike off for a service. My arm got a glancing blow by a passing vans side mirror.

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Kendalred replied to AlsoSomniloquism | 2 years ago
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Anyone who knows Ambleside in the Lakes must have encountered this particular pedestrian nightmare. Not only is the road exceptionally narrow, the pavements are single-file only - as evidenced here with people having to actually mix it with the road vehicles in order to get by.

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Flintshire Boy replied to Kendalred | 2 years ago
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Yup. And don't try to walk on the main road in Alfriston, East Sussex - pavement is no more than two feet wide!

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mdavidford | 2 years ago
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To give the police driver their due, they did at least move over to the right side of their lane to make the overtake. By all of about 15cm...

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brooksby | 2 years ago
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Well, gosh: the police car didn't cross into the cyclist's lane (until they did...) so what are they complaining about?

/sarcasm=off

My vote would be if you can't put a proper separated lane in place then don't bother with the paint and find a better use for it.

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Hirsute | 2 years ago
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Came across this unusual mgif

Great retalliation !

https://youtu.be/RnzVxZqnNx0?t=33

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AlsoSomniloquism replied to Hirsute | 2 years ago
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Although him stopping to do that forced the following Scooter wider almost causing an accident. 

That video also had a stupd MGIF on a cyclist later on
https://youtu.be/RnzVxZqnNx0?t=232

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Hirsute replied to AlsoSomniloquism | 2 years ago
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Ah, you are back !

 

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IanMSpencer replied to AlsoSomniloquism | 2 years ago
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Then there are always those cyclists jumping red lights...

https://youtu.be/RnzVxZqnNx0?t=97

Wait! That cyclist has got an engine and 4 wheels. Surely some mistake?

 

(That link is a keeper for any But Cyclists comment).

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AlsoSomniloquism replied to IanMSpencer | 2 years ago
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Yep, lots of red light jumpers in those clips each week, and quite a few not within three seconds of the change and with lights changing to green to show they were not broken either. 

There are worse ones on the Yank driving channels as quite a few serious t-bones occurring in those.

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IanMSpencer replied to AlsoSomniloquism | 2 years ago
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When I drove in Dallas Ft Worth some 20 years ago, whenever it rained the hard shoulder was littered with crashed cars.

I think momentary lapse of attention is anything up to an hour in Texas.

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Flintshire Boy replied to IanMSpencer | 2 years ago
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Like it. Lots!

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Creative use of the def. of 'momentary'.

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