After yesterday’s blog – and its focus on the “plagues of two-wheeled vermin” swarming around Box Hill, at least according to one oddly furious, tuba-playing student – reminded us that vicious anti-cycling invectives can cut across the generations, we’re now diverting our attention back to one of the anti-cycling OGs, ‘Mr Loophole’ himself, Nick Freeman.
> Bizarre ‘Young Reporter’ anti-cycling opinion piece by schoolkid bemoans “plagues of two-wheeled vermin” on Box Hill, making them late for music lessons
It’s been a while – over three months in fact – since Freeman, a lawyer famous for obtaining not guilty verdicts for celebrities charged with driving offences, last popped up on our timeline, calling for cyclists to be required to fit registration plates on their bikes, or be subject to speed limits, and penalty points… And not so much on phone use behind the wheel, but you get the point.
> Mr Loophole makes renewed call for cyclist number plates, but gets shut down by Jeremy Vine show panel
But this week, he’s back doing what he does best, appearing in the Express to complain about “kamikaze” cyclists dangerously “overtaking and undertaking” motorists in new 20mph zones “with impunity”.
The widespread implementation of 20mph zones, Freeman says, is a “contradiction in terms” because it doesn’t apply to cyclists – who are constantly zooming about at over 20mph of course (now, don’t bring up time trials, okay?).
Oh, and he also slotted in his personal favourite – arguing that any legislation to require cyclists to adhere to speed limits “will lack teeth if cyclists remain anonymous”, and that any road traffic law which “applies to motor vehicles apply to cyclists and e-bikes too.”
All the hits, then.
> “We warned that voting for these parties would lead to anti-car measures”: 20mph speed limit plan to “really encourage more cycle journeys” slammed as “nuts” and “extremely worrying”
“There is so much fanfare about how roads with 20mph limits will be so much safer,” Freeman said in the Express. “But how on earth can cyclists safely share road space with cars on 20mph roads when those on bikes don’t have to observe the limit?
“How can you have a speed limit which claims to protect all, yet which doesn’t apply to certain road users? It is a contradiction in terms.
“Because of this disparity, we see legally compliant cars crawling along at 20mph while kamikaze cyclists dangerously undertake and overtake these vehicles with impunity – because there is no law to stop them from doing so.
“How on earth is this supposed to advance the cause of road safety?”
Ah yes, that classic dichotomy – a motorist travelling at 20mph is “crawling along”, while a cyclist riding at the same speed is “dangerous”. Might want to think that one through a bit more, Nick.
> "Far more pleasant for walkers and cyclists": 20mph speed limit analysis hailed "astonishing", with drivers' journeys just 45 seconds longer
And it’s not just those pesky kamikaze cyclists motorists have to be worried about in the 20mph zones.
“At present drivers in a 20mph zone are constantly having to focus on their speedometer which is a distraction in itself,” Freeman adds.
“But they also have the additional responsibility of looking out for kamikaze cyclists. It’s such a dangerous situation and one the government either overlooked or didn’t consider when drafting legislation for bikes and cyclists on our roads.
“The number of accidents involving cyclists and pedestrians is increasing exponentially – which is why there is an urgent need to legislate to ensure cyclists obey the speed limit.
“Roads with a 20mph limit are already causing massive congestion whilst motorists are distracted by the constant need to brake. Allowing cyclists to ignore the limit simply makes a dangerous situation so much worse.”
> "Dangerous" cyclists "entirely unaccountable" and should have number plates, argues former Met Police chief
And don’t worry, he’s about to mention number plates now.
"Any legislation will lack teeth if cyclists remain anonymous,” Freeman says of the means of clamping down on ‘speeding’ cyclists. “They must be required to display a form of identification – say a registered tabard or registration plate – and have a licence or insurance.
“Otherwise it is hard for those who break the law to be caught. In other words, make the same road traffic law which applies to motor vehicles apply to cyclists and e-bikes too.”
Of course, Mr Loophole has been a longstanding proponent of cycling number plates – to no great effect – with his 2021 petition on the issue limping across the 10,000-signature threshold for an official response from the government, only to be decidedly rejected by the Department for Transport (a stance consistently repeated since then).
But, sure if this latest campaign fails, he can always get a job as a ‘young reporter’ at This is Local London, right?
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Yes, numberplates are why the 85% of drivers who ignore 20 mph limits are so often getting caught, of course.
BCP are looking at 20 mph limits but Dorset Police say "it will not be able to supply additional resources to monitor and enforce any speed reduction".
https://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/24155632.20mph-speed-limits-happe...
And any fines are a stealth tax !
https://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/24163385.letter-20mph-limit-steal...
It's interesting point though. If everyone were made to wear a number plate at all times, then no crime would go undetected or unsolved.
Except for the crime of not wearing the number plate?
Wait - what?
So ... a tree falling in a forest with nobody around would make a sound ... if it had a numberplate?
Correct. That would indeed follow logically from what I wrote--provided making a sound while falling in a forest is a crime.
Gosh!
But now I'm wondering - there are many prominently numbered things - bank accounts, cars for example, even some people... And there are definitely crimes involving them on the books. And yet... somehow the logic doesn't seem to follow the same way it does for people or trees? As in there are crimes which appear to be undetected (unless you count e.g. a traffic survey as "detection", or observing cars on pavements) and there are certainly ones unsolved?
That's presumably because the people who committed them weren't wearing number plates. The fact that the accounts etc. are numbered is beside the point. It's the perpetrators of the alleged crimes that you need to be able to identify.
I think the snag here is mostly in the "alleged crimes". Not infrequently the identity is not the part in question. Although the police sometimes seem to have a view similar to that you're suggesting [1] [2] e.g. because people don't have numbers permanently affixed therefore they aren't going to try to put two and two together.
"Accidents" happen, it's traffic.
Albeit from a long time ago but one I just discovered and posted on another thread - apparently it was worth charging something, but only something which could be assessed as punishable to the tune of 35 quid. The story is very brief but an air of mystery seems to pervade the CPS...
Still not quite sure about the detecting point you're making. I just stuck a number on myself and committed ten crimes. Or maybe I didn't - but presumably you can tell?
I wasn't really making any point. I'm at home with a cold/flu and a bit bored.
Fair enough, s'what this place is for. Bit of a tedious day myself. Better soon!
Thanks.
Yes, numberplates are why the 85% of drivers who ignore 20 mph limits are so often getting caught, of course
And vital they are, too! Otherwise motorists could go for many years without paying road tax, or having the vehicle checked for safety and could park for many hours at a time outside the Eagle and Child pub only 100 yards from Garstang Police station, with Lancashire Constabulary baffled as to how to identify the owner and driver
23rd Sept 23
Do not drive until repaired (dangerous defects):
Repair immediately (major defects):
Is there any context to that?
The context is the post I replied to which contains a photo of a vehicle.
There is presumably a bigger context. Otherwise what we have is a seemingly random picture of a vehicle and a list of defects, which might or might not be related to that vehicle.
Spot the Difference Quiz!
It's now over 7 months since WU59 UMH was first spotted and reported in July 23, so what has changed? Lancashire Constabulary officers are ineligible for the quiz as they have already shown themselves unable to spot the most obvious and key difference. Bonus points for spotting the recent 'MOT-fail' defect (I know!!- does anybody care in Lancashire?) on the rear of the super-offender's vehicle
Spot the Difference Quiz!
The answers are: stainless steel 'roll-bars', rear window sign indicating company name and phone numbers, at least 2 different dents on the right rear bumper, and the latest defect is the smashed right rear light cluster
Smashed rear light due to Nearside Front Wheel bearing play so excessive that directional control is impaired.
Its unusual enough to have made a local paper 70+ miles away from where it happened https://www.ipswichstar.co.uk/news/24156596.ipswich-jaguar-driver-senten...
The interesting thing about Lea Bridge Road is that's part of the Dunwich Dynamo route out of London.
I can vaguely accept arguments about dangerous overtakes in 20mph zones.
But the fix for that is easy - ban overtaking.
Dangerous overtakes happen both ways. And there are an awful lot of drivers who on the one hand think - bike = slow = must overtake, while thinking on the other that they don't need to allow as much/any margin for error because it is a 20mph zone so they are going slowly...
Licence plates etc is difficult, but I do have one suggestion - if we accept a tabard linked to rider not bicycle, then we should insist on a second removable plate, linked to driver not car. That would remove a lot of the 'I don't know who was driving' and the need for NIP within 14 days. Yes, having to remove the plate when you park to prevent it being stolen is annoying, but so is having to deal with a tabard when driving.
If you don't want this then it should be same as motorbikes; plate from only one direction with strict rules for demanding who the rider was and minimal penalties for failure to identify them...
The cost of introducing it would be astronomical.
Also it would be easily circumvented in the way that a large number of drivers 'forget' to clean their plates during winter.
I fully agree it will never happen;
But if we are going to do it by plates it should be proportional;
So plate linked to bike not rider;
Proportional equivalent to NIP. So either given out immediately or within X days; So that would be what, 1 day to issue instead of 14 to be vaguely proportional to cars.
And a proportional penalty for failure to identify; No points system, so proportional fine - so up to £100 vs up to £1k...
What, the police and courts refuse to run cases where the maximum available penalty is a rounding error on the admin costs of prosecuting someone and the paperwork is near impossible to do within time limits...
Ban overtaking you say? That is a thing on some streets in NL already*. No wonder that country is turning into a hellscape.
Even more incredible - on some roads *without* cyclists this is done for the safety of motorists! Try explaining that one in the local media...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overtaking#Nationwide_ban_on_overtaking_...
* Although that is apparently legally distinct from marking something a "cycle street" ("fietsstraat"):
https://aseasyasridingabike.wordpress.com/2013/06/12/dont-misunderstand-...
https://mobypeople-nl.translate.goog/blogs/fietsstraat-wat-is-het-en-wel...
If the 20mph has traffic calming overtaking is banned already. HC rule 153
"Traffic-calming measures. On some roads there are features such as road humps, chicanes and narrowings which are intended to slow you down. When you approach these features reduce your speed. Allow cyclists and motorcyclists room to pass through them. Maintain a reduced speed along the whole of the stretch of road within the calming measures. Give way to oncoming road users if directed to do so by signs. You should not overtake other moving road users while in these areas."
Ah - good point - and that is sensible.
Although I think physical road changes are a good way of changing behaviour, I was reminded recently that even this can be stuffed up by poor design / construction or heavy use. Image shows an Edinburgh example of a road hump (with narrowing) which has almost been flattened. Obviously by the vast number of heavy bikes...
*pedantry* "should not" in the Highway Code doesn't generally indicate specific law - that would be "must not" - so not quite "banned". Although if you're doing this I think you could be threatened with "careless or inconsiderate driving"?
Oh.... I misread your poll.... I thought it said "Capes."
Now that would be great for sponsors... not so good for the riders speed!
NO CAPES
Can the media please stop going to Nick Freeman for road safety advice. This is a man, as we all know, who makes a living getting dangerous drivers off charges on technicalities so they can can continue to drive.
He does not care at all about road safety at all.
Could Nick Freeman act for a cyclist, were they to be done for wanton and furious riding in a 20 limit? Asking for a friend...
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