"What a mess": Chaos as live traffic passes metres from peloton; Mr Loophole weighs in on bike theft stats; Cyclists react to Just Stop Oil turning to pedal-powered protest; Close pass op attracts attention; Commuter counting + more on the live blog

Owd Big 'Ead wrote:

Far more interesting is Labour rowing back on their £28bn pledge to green the economy.

But weren't they "rowing back" on that pledge because they've had another look at the numbers and realised quite how badly the Tories have f-ed up the economy...?

Yeah, to a degree, but all the parliamentarians are going to blame anyone else but themselves.

Well, given the intention of that post is to embarrass someone, you've done a good job. Unfortunately it's not me you've managed to embarrass, these things do have a habit of backfiring. Get well soon xxxx

Rendel Harris wrote:

Well, given the intention of that post is to embarrass someone, you've done a good job. Unfortunately it's not me you've managed to embarrass, these things do have a habit of backfiring. Get well soon xxxx

Not my intention at all. You made a good point on the other thread. So good I thought I would share it here.

Thank you for your continued service keeping us all honest.

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Agreed. That's his life purpose. We are SO grateful.

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I'm going to regret getting involved in this. I know I am.

BlackBelt Barrister explains it much better than I could ever hope to:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZ6QxRqsmE4

Really worth a watch. He does some great videos.

HoldingOn wrote:

I'm going to regret getting involved in this. I know I am.

BlackBelt Barrister explains it much better than I could ever hope to:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZ6QxRqsmE4

Really worth a watch. He does some great videos.

That video is all well and good and that Black Belt Barrister fella seems very knowledgeable, but my good friend Rendel has told me that it's actually "purely advisory". He quoted the highway code a few times and was pretty adamant. I'm going to go with his assessment. He comes across as a knowledgeable guy with a wealth of expertise across a variety of subject matters.

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Rendy 'adamant' you say?

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How DARE YOU, Sir?!!!

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Rendy has 'a wealth of expertise across a variety of subject matters'?

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How DARE YOU, Sir?!

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It's surely very clear that Rendy has a wealth of expertise about EVERYTHING!

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Why don't you ever have anything to say for yourself? You're like the snotty little kid who follows the school bully around and gets a kick in once the fight's over. It's truly pathetic and deeply sad.

Rendel Harris wrote:

Why don't you ever have anything to say for yourself? You're like the snotty little kid who follows the school bully around and gets a kick in once the fight's over. It's truly pathetic and deeply sad.

If you're so thin-skinned that my calling out your ignorance and reminding you of things you said 2 days prior amounts to bullying, I think you have no business accusing others of being "truly pathetic and deeply sad".

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LEAVE RENDY ALONE!

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Rendy is the only one who is permitted to bully, threaten, try to cancel those who dare to have different views to him, or even to 'keep his eye on you' (!! shock!).

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But, fair play, he does provide some of the adults on here with a bit of a giggle.

Flintshire Boy wrote:

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LEAVE RENDY ALONE!

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Rendy is the only one who is permitted to bully, threaten, try to cancel those who dare to have different views to him, or even to 'keep his eye on you' (!! shock!).

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But, fair play, he does provide some of the adults on here with a bit of a giggle.

Jolly good. Well, as I've just had the most fantastic ride out in the sunshine with wife and mates and am now about to crack a few cold ones and watch the Dauphine "as live" I think I'll leave you two to it. You seem eminently suited to each other, I hope you'll be very happy.

As a Parthian shot I would say that it's amusing to note that every time you have tried to get one of your "let's get Trendy Rendy" (and you're an adult in your imagination? Incredible) bullygroups going with another user, that person has eventually ended up banned from the site: Martin73, thisismyusername, Nigel and all his many reiterations and several others...if a man is judged by the company he keeps...

Common site in many countries around the world. Holland being the obvious example. Its the UK that is by far the most anti-cycling nation in Europe. We see this as some sort of abnormality yet other nations have done more to integrate it into their road infrastructure.

Maybe the UK never will be as cycle friendly as we could be. Car will always be king and as they get bigger and faster its the ones who want to cycle are getting made to suffer. 

There are a few laws that would be so unpopular there would likely be riots in the streets but that are completely common sense when it comes to cars and would unquestionably make the roads safer for all users:

1- The maximum legal speed on any UK road is currently 70mph. All new cars sold should be speed limited to 70mph. - This will likely never happen as car companies would lose sales as car-ists would stop buying new cars to get around the limiters.

2- The driving test is the minimum standard for safe driving on the road. Anything which would be a major fault on a driving test should result in instant revokation of the license until a retest has been taken. (yes, that should include speeding, mobile phone use, close passes etc) - This will likely never happen as driving test centres would be completely overwhelmed and backlogged for years. 

3- Use of a vehicle as a weapon should result in a permenant driving ban, anyone caught driving while banned should be jailed. There is no reason this shouldn't happen. 

Excellent ideas! I would also add that I don't see why cars cannot be limited to the speed limit at their location. I mean, they're all connected to internet and GPS, and so on, so technically it should be feasible. In Europe they are already talking about speed pedelecs which would be limited to certain speeds on bike lanes, and different speeds as light motorcycles on other roads.

OK, OK, newish cars, at least.

There is talk of speed limit geofencing on hired escooters.

HoldingOn wrote:

I recognise that its odd, but I get a little giddy when I see that many cyclists in one place (that aren't a club/in a race)

I simply can't imagine doing my commute with so many other cyclists around. It is brilliant to see. I am almost tempted to travel to London just to cycle amongst them all!

These pictures really annoy me.

But only because they are on my commute but I'm never in them!

If they took a photo in my area, I would have (in my experience) a 1 in 12 chance of being the cyclist!

We strange few, we strange happy few

"I am almost tempted to travel to London just to cycle amongst them all!"

You can cure that with a morning trip up Borough High Street, where everyone (who isn't me) is invariably an idiot regardless of their choice of transport.

This week's special prize went to the gentleman on a cargo bike who only stopped at the many red lights long enough to tell the cyclists asking him to be a bit more careful that they were "cunts" and that he "doesn't stop for red fucking lights". Thanks mate, hope the buses treat you with more care than you did that woman who was crossing at a green man.