Triathlete urges drivers to "think twice" after shocking dashcam footage shows moment bike was catapulted into the air from collision

arowland wrote:

Still, at least it was conveniently close to a bike shop

Well I was going to make some ‘witty’ comment but FairPlay arowland you got in there first. So at least I can start the argument on this site for wearing helmets, so all the bellends who are anti wearing of can chip in.  

But let’s all agree it is good to see Jack smiling.

Blodadtand posted a reupload on page 1

thnx!

brooksby wrote:

We're at 120 comments and counting on this and nobody's even yet mentioned how he wouldn't have suffered any injuries at all if he'd been wearing a plastic hat

Or suggested that it's just too convenient that it happened to be on camera, so the whole thing must have been staged.

Except he was !

He rips it off at the end and throws it down. Then wanders about - I would be sitting down quietly waiting for the ambulance !

You might not be at your most clear-minded after landing square on your head, though (plastic hat or no plastic hat).

Adrenaline probably. 

Come on, people, I'd really not wanted to start up a plastic hats discussion.  Can we just leave nicmason to shout at clouds on his own, here?

brooksby wrote:

Come on, people, I'd really not wanted to start up a plastic hats discussion.  ....

I like plastic hats, especially pink ones

odd. clouds dont usually reply quite so promptly

nicmason wrote:

odd. clouds dont usually reply quite so promptly

Oh yes we do

brooksby wrote:

I'd really not wanted to start up a plastic hats discussion.

What about a plaster cats discussion instead?

(Possibly with bonus demonic possession.)

brooksby wrote:

Dear road.cc admins,

We're at 120 comments and counting on this and nobody's even yet mentioned how he wouldn't have suffered any injuries at all if he'd been wearing a plastic hat 

Please can you just draw a line under this one?

Many thanks,

brooksby

Do plastic hats have more status than tin foil hats?

nicmason wrote:

"Research shows that drivers have difficulty spotting a bike approaching, judging its speed correctly and estimating its time of arrival driving their vehicles, which they've supposedly been assessed to be competent to be in charge of, safely and legally. As you approach junctions, try to see where the driver’s eyes are pointing and whether its wheels are beginning to turn try to assume that the driver will do something competent illegal and idiotic. Consider how you would deal safely with the vehicle unexpectedly pulling out in front of you driving the wrong way around a roundabout.

There you go . I post something well intentioned and researched and your reply is exactly the problem so many have on this forum. 

nicmason wrote:

I post something well intentioned and researched entirely irrelevant to the incident in question in an attempt to suggest that the cyclist was to blame and your reply is exactly the problem so many have on this forum to point this out.

nicmason wrote:

There you go . I post something well intentioned and researched and your reply is exactly the problem so many have on this forum. 

Like hell it was well intentioned, it's victim-blaming trolling as usual. It's also totally irrelevant as it's referring to watching carefully to see if someone's going to pull out in front of you at a roundabout, not what to do if some utter spanner decides to drive the wrong way round a roundabout straight at you.

you mean Rospa are victime blaming. ?  who knew.

nicmason wrote:

you mean Rospa are victime blaming. ?  who knew.

I think actually, RoSPA were making a reasonable point that you have taken out of context in order to victim-blame in a situation RoSPA were not considering.

Really ? Saved my bacon a few times.

" As you approach junctions, try to see where the driver’s eyes are pointing and whether its wheels are beginning to turn. Consider how you would deal safely with the vehicle unexpectedlypulling out in front of you."

Whats your context then ?

"As you approach a motorway bridge, try to see where the pedestrian's eyes are pointing. Consider how you would deal safely with them unexpectedly dropping a concrete block on top of your car."

And I expect you  can't see why some car drivers would react aggressively to cyclists. Yet you have just happily advocated something that could cause serious injury  or death.

Have a think about that.

If you'd have had a think about it before putting fingers to keyboard*, you'd have realised that I wasn't advocating any such thing. I was drawing a parallel between the suggestion that motorists should bear some responsibility for avoiding the wholly intentional and illegal act of dropping a concrete block on them, and your suggesting that the cyclist should have been responsible for avoiding the wholly intentional and illegal act of driving a vehicle the wrong way around a roundabout at them. Which is a much better comparison than the RoSPA advice you quoted, which is talking about drivers making misjudgements or having a moment of inattention.

[* Giving you the benefit of the doubt that you were just being hard of thinking here, rather than deliberately misrepresenting what I wrote - although, given your previous comments, I'm not sure why.]

nicmason wrote:

And I expect you  can't see why some car drivers would react aggressively to cyclists. Yet you have just happily advocated something that could cause serious injury  or death.

Have a think about that.

Don't be so ridiculous, s/he did nothing of the sort and you know it.