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Alpine gearing Help!

Hi Team,

Purists Dont hate me (#RULE 42) but I am racing in the SWISSMAN XTREME Triathlon next year and the bike leg climbs the Furka pass, Gotthard and the Grimsel. I am fairly strong on the hills, and have cycled around the Alps near Nice before, but only on a Tri bike. My question is with 50/34 up front will my 11-28 cassette be enough for the 4500m of climbing in one ride? Easy climbing cassettes normally mean lack of speed on the flats!

I will be riding my Felt AR5 with Cosmic Carbones

RULE 5 isn't the answer!

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allanj | 10 years ago
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I managed a couple of cols in the summer on hired bikes, with 34X28 the lowest gear, and I'm no hero so you should be OK. Having a 32 to fall back on would be nice though.

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surly_by_name | 10 years ago
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My rough rule of thumb (running a compact) - more than 2,500m of climbing in a day, 25t, more than 3,500m of climbing in a day, 27t.

Your current set up will be perfect. 34x28 will be fine for the uphills and a 50x11 is not far short of a 53x12 (from memory), so I don't think you will have much to worry about on the flats either.

The "racing compact" (52/36) is a good idea but no one (I thnk) sells them OEM so only really an option when it comes time to replace entire drivetrain.

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surly_by_name | 10 years ago
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My rough rule of thumb (running a compact) - more than 2,500m of climbing in a day, 25t, more than 3,500m of climbing in a day, 27t.

Your current set up will be perfect. 34x28 will be fine for the uphills and a 50x11 is not far short of a 53x12 (from memory), so I don't think you will have much to worry about on the flats either.

The "racing compact" (52/36) is a good idea but no one (I thnk) sells them OEM so only really an option when it comes time to replace entire drivetrain.

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dave atkinson | 10 years ago
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I know it's not really a solution here as you don't want to replace your whole drivetrain but i've been running 52/36 and 11-32 (11-speed) on a couple of test bikes of late, and it's almost the best of both worlds:

- big gears for pounding along the flat
- low gears for climbing (36/32 is about the same as 34/30)
- gear spread on 11spd is good, no clunky gaps
- gap between big and small ring isn't quite as big (44% instead of 47%) as compact

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dave atkinson | 10 years ago
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11 speed ultegra, or 10?

either way a SRAM cassette will be fine, spacing is the same. 11spd 11-32 is a great choice because it's just an 11-28 10spd with an extra 32T in terms of the ratios. it's not even a compromise, really.

if you want to go to 30/32T you'll need a mid-cage derailleur. standard cage mechs don't cope well with more than a 28T

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Royal1664 | 10 years ago
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I'm currently running ultegra so I take it the sram cassette wouldn't work on my setup and I would need to invest all round?!

Stupid question- Can't I just put my 11t cassette ring onto the ultegra 12-30 instead the 12t supplied?

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backflipbedlem | 10 years ago
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Check out the SRAM Wifli, has a 11-32 at the back, was a 10 speed, but just added an 11 speed too.

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CXR94Di2 | 10 years ago
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You could get a 11-32 cass with a shimano gs long cage derailleur. I have the 50-34 front and 11-32 cass. Even when I am pretty dead in the legs I can spin up pretty much anything.

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Poptart242 | 10 years ago
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I know absolutely nothing about tri, but I'd be tempted to go to a 30 cog rear so that you can spin as much as possible... Would that save some energy for the last leg?

(I have no idea what leg the bike is).

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russwparkin | 10 years ago
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should be fine, but one of the greatest climbers around my way even dropped to 50/34 11/30 for alps

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