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Wheel upgrade?

Hi

I'm thinking of buying some new wheels to upgrade my 'best' bike - a Cannondale CAAD 10 which currently has Mavic Aksium wheels on it. The plan would be to put the Aksiums on my Genesis Equilibrium winter/commuter bike and then put the new wheels on the CAAD.

I've had a look at some Mavic Ksyrium Elite S wheels on Wiggle for £420.

I was wondering if it would be worth upgrading generally, and for people to perhaps suggest some alternatives.

I'm 6'0, and around 13st 9 if that helps at all (but planning to lose a bit of weight).

Budget would be around the £400 mark (or ideally a bit below).

Cheers

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deero83 | 10 years ago
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I've managed to get hold of a pair of the Swiss Side Gotthard wheels via eBay - just waiting for them to be delivered!

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roryd replied to deero83 | 9 years ago
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I am currently looking at these wheels as a option and would quite like some feed back if you've got time?

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notfastenough | 10 years ago
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@shakebeforeusing - thanks, I'm upgrading from Bontrager race wheels to Franc, so hopefully I'll see a similar improvement.

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shakebeforeusing | 10 years ago
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Thought I'd add my experiences (if you haven't already made a choice, swissside did have a Christmas sale...). I've been riding the Gotthard wheelset for about 3 months now (on an Equilibrium funilly enough) and have tried Ksyrium Elites (and know others that ride them). Not sure about the bikeradar review, giving them 3.5 stars with a review that basically says the only negative is that rim isn't excessively wide... reviewer must've been having a bad day...

From riding them they're excellent in every way. They handle well, are utterly bombproof and go like stonk! I upgraded from a set of Bontrager race wheels, and although those weren't sluggish by any means I immediately felt the difference. They both accelerate and hold speed well and have a pleasant hmming noise whilst going along (like a very quiet deep section wheel). I've noticed no flex whatsoever in them on both testing climbs and descents and they're completely true despite some good thrashings (included a pothole which broke a ride mates handbuilt wheel, which I then had to fix at the road side  39 ).

Compared to the Ksyriums I'm sure this will be exactly the same, with the Gotthards a tad more durable due to the better spokes. There's not much to tell them apart to be honest apart from the looks (and imo the gotthards are gorgeous, no bias...  3 ). Sifting through the data gives the results that I beleive the Gotthards have slightly heavier rims with lighter hubs, and have a slight aerodynamic over the box section Ksyriums. According to Swissside's data from their Hadron testing this will be about 25% of the gain from going for a full on deep rim wheelset (i.e. ~80mm), with better performance in side winds.

Also, in response to the negative points posted in the review I've had no problem with the rim width running 25mm tyres evn at low pressures, and the QR skewers provided were possibly faulty. Mine engage very solidly, although they do have the disadvantage of having external cams. I also have the titanium skewers which are pretty much bog standard titanium QRs. They're a bit harder to close than the standard ones as expected for titanium, and can be a bit fiddlier to get to the best tension. In all, I would really bother with the extra expense again.

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deero83 replied to shakebeforeusing | 10 years ago
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Very helpful, thanks!!

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deero83 | 10 years ago
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No - should I be?!

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matthewn5 | 10 years ago
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No idea why that turned up here! I was commenting on another post.  45

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deero83 | 10 years ago
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Ha ha! I've always been told I'm an only child!

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jamtartman | 10 years ago
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I am similar height and weight to OP, and run a CAAD10. Are you my twin, separated at birth?

I changed my wheels to Elite S and have done a few thousand miles on them now. They have been utterly bombproof if a tad unexciting.

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deero83 | 10 years ago
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Think I just need to let her forget about it for a bit and then go for a sneaky purchase.

It worked with my Fizik shoes!

(Or there's always the "It was only £40 on Wiggle" approach my club-mates take!)

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notfastenough replied to deero83 | 10 years ago
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deero83 wrote:

Think I just need to let her forget about it for a bit and then go for a sneaky purchase.

It worked with my Fizik shoes!

(Or there's always the "It was only £40 on Wiggle" approach my club-mates take!)

I sold a pile of cycling bits that I don't use on ebay, then just sat on my paypal balance until I saw a good deal.

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notfastenough replied to deero83 | 10 years ago
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deero83 wrote:

Think I just need to let her forget about it for a bit and then go for a sneaky purchase.

It worked with my Fizik shoes!

(Or there's always the "It was only £40 on Wiggle" approach my club-mates take!)

I sold a pile of cycling bits that I don't use on ebay, then just sat on my paypal balance until I saw a good deal.

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Man of Lard replied to deero83 | 10 years ago
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deero83 wrote:

(Or there's always the "It was only £40 on Wiggle" approach my club-mates take!)

Or the old "I've borrowed them off " line  1

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Man of Lard replied to deero83 | 10 years ago
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deero83 wrote:

(Or there's always the "It was only £40 on Wiggle" approach my club-mates take!)

Or the old "I've borrowed them off " line  1

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Man of Lard | 10 years ago
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Take a wheel off and say you're off to get it looked at at the LBS - "I think there's something not right dearest" - take the wheel out for a drive in the car and come back effing and blinding at the cost of a repair (make it >60% the cost of the new wheel if she asks)... Order the new wheel (and the matching one). Profit (for the wheel seller).

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Colin Peyresourde | 10 years ago
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Kyseriums are bomb proof. No truing required. Best add-on to my bike. You don't want the bottom end ones though, you need the ones with the aluminium milling around the rim. Class.

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DanTe replied to Colin Peyresourde | 10 years ago
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Colin Peyresourde wrote:

Kyseriums are bomb proof. No truing required. Best add-on to my bike. You don't want the bottom end ones though, you need the ones with the aluminium milling around the rim. Class.

I used to say the same thing, especially when I first got them.
There's one major flaw in these wheels, there's a big problem with the rim cracking round the spoke nipples.
I'm on my third rear Ksyrium Elite in 18 months. First one might of been a big pothole hit but the second was just wear and tear from last years wet winter,
They are nowhere near as bombproof as is commonly thought.
As a bigger rider I would be mindful of this and buy them from somewhere that's known to have a good returns policy.
I got mine from Merlin and they've been great every time. The guys I spoke to there said that they've been onto their boss about not stocking them anymore as they're sick of dealing with cracked rim replacements..
Good wheels but..

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jasecd replied to Colin Peyresourde | 9 years ago
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Colin Peyresourde wrote:

Kyseriums are bomb proof. No truing required. Best add-on to my bike. You don't want the bottom end ones though, you need the ones with the aluminium milling around the rim. Class.

Couldn't agree more - I spent significantly extra on a pair of Ksyrium SLS's with my new bike and having put almost 2000 miles on them in six months they are as true as when they started.

They're also super duper light.

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Yorkshie Whippet | 10 years ago
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Does the wife like clothes, handbags and shoes?

Job done!  1

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deero83 | 10 years ago
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Biggest problem at the moment is getting them past the wife!

She thinks it's a total waste of time as I've "got wheels already".

This is of course true, but the AlexRims on the Genesis weigh a tonne.....!  3

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Nixster replied to deero83 | 10 years ago
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deero83 wrote:

Biggest problem at the moment is getting them past the wife!

She thinks it's a total waste of time as I've "got wheels already".

This is of course true, but the AlexRims on the Genesis weigh a tonne.....!  3

I think you'll find that most non-cyclists, including Mrs Nixster, struggle to tell one set of wheels from another (particularly if you avoid huge decals)  3

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pants replied to deero83 | 10 years ago
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deero83 wrote:

Biggest problem at the moment is getting them past the wife!

She thinks it's a total waste of time as I've "got wheels already".

This is of course true, but the AlexRims on the Genesis weigh a tonne.....!  3

tell her your would be new wheels are rounder.

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edd23 | 10 years ago
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Conti Gatorskins and 4 Season tyres always feels 'sluggish' to me and just bounce and skip along at high pressures. GP4000s a better bet, or the Vredestein Xtreme. Read an article in an Australian Cycle magazine that claimed there was nearly a 20 watt increase in rolling resistance between the GP4000 and the 4 Season which is a big difference

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deero83 | 10 years ago
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Thinking the Francs at present rather than the Gotthard, although Swissside deeply refute their claims!!!!

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matthewn5 | 10 years ago
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Shimano 6700s are over 1600g with rim tape. I found them a dull unresponsive wheel. My Fulcrum 5s (2014, with the bigger axle) though heavier feel a much better more lively wheel.

Fulcrum 3s are excellent too, stiff and lively. It's not all about weight.

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ianfraff | 10 years ago
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I recently got some Zondas for my CAAD10 (with Shimano 10sp hub). Haven't put a lot of miles on them yet, but I find them excellent so far. Have some Krysium Elite S's on another bike and I'd have to say there's not much between them and the Zondas, and the Zondas were almost half the price.

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pants | 10 years ago
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I had my fulcrum 3s for 2 years and I use them everyday for everything, commute, weekend rides, they have taken a lot of abuse and are still true. The front rim is showing signs of wear but I have done a lot of miles on the wheels and they have been excellent.

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deero83 | 10 years ago
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notfastenough replied to deero83 | 10 years ago
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deero83 wrote:

Not so sure having read this review though:
http://www.bikeradar.com/au/road/gear/category/components/wheel-sets/pro...

Thanks for posting - I suppose that's the thing with reviews, the last one I read pointed out a complete lack of crosswind buffeting, which contrasts with this one. It does make me wonder whether I should have opted for the Ti skewer upgrade to go with them.

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notfastenough | 10 years ago
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Go for it!

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