Eneco Tour stage 1

Exactly. No one minds what the rules are as long as they stay the same and are made perfectly clear before the race. In instances like this, could we ask for clarity before the race starts in future. Either that or we simply stick to one format and ignore the additional sprints. It's very confusing.

Teams have not been picked on that basis, don't give me that BS.....I said it towards the of Stage 1, which after finding out there was no information on the primus sprints, I came back and corrected myself.

14:45 towards the end of Stage 1

Gkam84 wrote:

To make you all aware, the golden sprints will not be scored as they only hold time bonuses and not points

21:14 when I was doing the scoring

Gkam84 wrote:

Right, so I haven't been able to find any breakdown for the primus sprints.

So what I have done for today is scored the Golden KM sprints.

The points jersey is scored on overall and the sprints jersey is based on the primus classification. Just in case anyone wonders about their scores.

If there was a breakdown that someone knows of for the primus sprints, there were two today. I will remove the Golden KM sprints and they will be replaced with the primus.

I'll happily just delete the whole tour as this was just put in as a bonus...

on another note...
1,2,3,4,6,8,15 + Asselman

I appreciate all the work that goes into this game, but I have to agree with Joelsim. Scoring should not change after a race has begun.

and...
Gkam84 wrote:
"Teams have not been picked on that basis, don't give me that BS...."

That is not fair. I absolutely based my stage 2 picks on the fact that the golden km would not count towards our scores.

Despite this example, I hope that the result will be that we get accurate information on scoring before races begin from now on.

I understand that some race information is difficult to find before a race begins; but I would like to ask if it could be possible to show accurate scoring info for stages on the races' scoring information page, which rarely, if ever, seems to be updated to show accurate info for each particular race. For example this Eneco Tour still does not show the sprint scoring info correctly.
Thanks.

Get a grip and do one, Golden KM will be scored, END OF....not happy.... Dave [at] road.cc

Actually, no, you pay a tenner to run the server, not the people who run the game for £0, also, this was a bonus race,. not scheduled to be run and only being do so because I'm around

I will email Dave. Gkam this is nonsense. You can't just change rules half way through because you feel like it.

#firstworldproblems

Quite.

As I said nobody minds what the rules are as long as they are the rules And aren't changed at your whim after people have done their teams. You clearly stated that they wouldn't be scored so that is how it should be.

You're not The Sheriff of Nottingham.

I stated, after the race was underway, then when there were no points awarded for the Primus in stage 1, that had to be changed. Shit happens....

Joel is right here..... It was said that they would not be scored and so they should not be...Teams have been picked as a result of that statement.... Yet another case of the goalposts being moved....

1,2,3,4,6,9,13,15 for me.

Stage 2 does TER.

Here you go Gkam

http://www.cyclingnews.com/races/eneco-tour-2015/stage-1/results/

http://www.cyclingnews.com/races/eneco-tour-2015/stage-2/results/

http://www.cyclingnews.com/races/eneco-tour-2015/stage-3/results/

But the Golden shouldn't be scored. You have said they aren't being scored so they can't be scored.

I transferred Asselman in after Stage 1 to free up some funds, and because he scored 23 points.
I thought he might fancy another breakaway and after Gkam84 said he was counting Golden KM points it was worth a punt.

Certainly confusing. The Primus (combativity) sprint seems to score differently in the actual race every time; stg 1 total =95; stg 2 totals 40+38. (cycling news).

Yesterday the golden kilometre had points awarded (which added to the points jersey) (cycling news and official website), but these seem to have disappeared today.

The road.cc "Information on scoring" lists scoring overall standings both for points and sprints jersey. It also gives 6,4,2 points for intermediate sprints. Because it doesn't specify which sprints, it could be interpreted to include both Primus and golden kilometre.

I assumed, along with most other people, (including Gkam apparently), that only the 2 Primus would be counted.

It is hard to play this game when the rules are obscure or change. It has been a constant forum theme for me. Obviously you pick your team according to the points available.

For this particular race though, most players would have started with 8 good sprinters, so it probably doesn't matter. Did anyone start with Asselman in their team?

I probably would have picked a rider for the break if you were going to score the golden sprints. I read on the forum before the race that you were not scoring the golden sprints.
???

It seems a little odd to say the least to score 5 intermediate sprints in one stage plus a different jersey too, doesn't it?

He won two Primus and 3 Golden KM sprints.

Which I am including, because I scored them yesterday as there were no information about the top 3 in the Primus sprints. He also gets 5 for holding the Primus jersey, as both the points and Primus jersey's are being scored.

I don't make the rules, I just score according to what has been laid out.