Welsh SPOTY 2012

bikeboy76 wrote:

You are extrapolating the scale of my point to make it seem illogical, which is a straw man argument.

I haven't yet seen any logic in your argument.

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The fact is this prize is from the BBC so it is a copy and reduction of the full SPOTY prize. If it was called the 'Welsh Sporting Excellence' award that would be find.

So it is the title of the award that bothers you. I give up.

bikeboy76 wrote:

Is there any point to this award, perhaps next we should have a Yorkshire SPOTY? Or the Isle of Man SPOTY as it is an autonomous area: Cav wins again!

Are you having difficulty recognising Wales as a politgical and cultural entity in its own right? Read and learn:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wales

I am well aware of Wales cultural heritage and identity, but the British SPOTY already exists. Creating this prize just dilutes its value. Will Brad get an English SPOTY or a Northern SPOTY when he inevitably wins tomorrow?

It is this type of division of previously British institutions that encourages separatism. You should read Tam Dalyell's book 'Devolution: The End of Britain?'

Next you will want to give the Manic Street Preachers a Welsh 'Brits' award.

bikeboy76 wrote:

I am well aware of Wales cultural heritage and identity, but the British SPOTY already exists. Creating this prize just dilutes its value. Will Brad get an English SPOTY or a Northern SPOTY when he inevitably wins tomorrow?

How on earth does having a Wales SPOTY lessen the value of the British one? Do the guests in the London studio feel their achievements and the recognition are the poorer because there is a similar regional event for which 95% are ineligible? Surely it is merely showcasing a smaller group of athletes.

Should a writer have not suggested a 7 wonders of Wales" for fear of diluting the 7 wonders of the world?

If the Wales Tourist Board decided to promote Wales Heritage Sites does that somehow undermine the UNESCO list or make Buckingham Palace and Tower Bridge less interesting for tourists?

Do the Commonwealth Games devalue the Olympics? Does the yellow jersey of the Dauphiné make the yellow jersey of the Tour de France less prestigious?

Perhaps the solution is to scrap the BBC's SPOTY. Let's have a single European or worldwide award, a sporting version of 'Eurovision'. By your logic the BBC's award really just dilutes the whole point of the Olympics.