Car crashes into building - please post your Local news stories

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Can you cut-and-paste the relevant bits?

David9694 wrote:

Not sure how the off-side damage occurred if it was the front near side corner that biffed the shop window. 🧑🏻‍🦳 menace strikes again. 

Maybe that damage was already there from a previous "incident"?

"Peek, who has one previous driving conviction aged 15"

Yet he has got off a second major offence only 2 years later.

Just up the hill from West gate.

David9694 wrote:

car crashes into war memorial 2014-22

I trust that all of those drivers were referred to the crown court, facing a minimum ten years in jail, and that the attorney general and the transport secretary (?) got involved...? 

AlsoSomniloquism wrote:

So how long is "momentary"?

Just ten seconds. It's hard to compose and send a text in much less time than that.

David9694 wrote:

If a car has had an impact at above say 3 mph, why doesn't it automatically shut itself down for 5-10 minutes? It's very clear that drivers can't be relied on to stop any more. 

In one way yes - we have things like ABS so you could speculate on a version of the "parking assist" tech that detected when collision with objects ahead was inevitable without braking and applied the brakes. Still a bit complicated. However... as we all know from tales here there are times when "for safety" you have to increase speed. Can't recall seeing it written down but I'm sure someone will have some stories about "...and then I saw the lorry barrelling at me and if I hadn't booted it..." or "we could see flames coming from the back of the tanker so we floored it and just avoided the blast".

Less flippantly you could conjecture a need to e.g. drive someone to hospital following an accident. Or maybe the accident occured on the way there? But fundamentally the accellerator pedal is seen as just as vital as the brake so I doubt this one's got (right) legs.

Parked cars are required to be lit in certain circumstances (https://www.gov.uk/guidance/the-highway-code/waiting-and-parking-238-to-252) 

It might be just a coincidence that this happened the same month that Britain First launched their campaign against the RNLI. 

Sorry, peter: I find this thread very hard to navigate - didn't realise you'd already posted it! <slaps wrist>

brooksby wrote:

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How odd. Here it is:

One person was taken to a hospital after a car crashed into a Bethlehem house Tuesday evening, emergency dispatchers said.

The 4:20 p.m. crash occurred at the two-story home in the 700 block of East Ninth Street, dispatchers said.

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The couple who own the home initially asked for the public’s help in finding their dog, Kolby, who went missing after the crash, according to the couple’s Facebook post.

The dog later returned home on its own, the owner said.

Can you cut-and-paste the relevant bits?

I can't believe that he got away with £1K 'compensation/fine' to the pub owners after causing £500K of damage... 

David9694 wrote:

How???  

If you look closely, you can just see a stuck lorry holding up the traffic - it's not for us to criticise.

https://www.salisburyjournal.co.uk/news/19755030.police-direct-traffic-a...

I think it got scared by some nasty cyclists and has gone and hidden under the bridge until they've gone

I just view the comments as "Newest First" and look down a few posts when I put something on here, but I'm surprised we don't get more dupes on this thread to be honest.

Grandad's insurance might be going up a bit come renewal.

you're virtually guaranteed a slap on the wrists and home for tea
No, that would be too draconian- it's wrist

David9694 wrote:

Ah yes, every driver is rushing to hospital - funny that. So sure, there's an override button for those times you mysteriously find yourself in a Hollywood action movie - but then you have to explain at your local police station why you used it, based on the automated report it generates.  

The same device, "spy in the cab", drivers will call it, sends a report of each time you exceed the speed limit as well. BTW, the car won't go unless it and the driver are legit.

Why not?

I'm with you, I'm just trying to think on the other side of the question. On that basis the override idea doesn't work (I imagine the argument runs) because it's exactly when people are stressed / under immediate threat that you'd need it, so that will delay them / they'll just keep stamping vainly on the pedals because they won't remember.

As for "spy in the car" I'm surprised enterprising motoring lawyers are not already making use of the "Bill Gates / Facebook / the Illuminati chips" in cases. Or rather the fact that most people carry around at all times a triangulatable, identifiable device (or several) equipped with an accellerometer. (Or maybe only the spies really have that access and they're not telling?)

That's for after the fact though. Black box sounds like a good idea. Per use on planes, on ships, trains etc. they can record accidents, give feedback to improve performance and ensure standards are maintained. Think there have been some proposals for "drunk locks" in cars too.

Just not sure the general public would take to this being imposed because lack of trust in authorities - "spying" and "control". Bit like the "chips" idea - lots of people happily do this voluntarily, see Strava!

How would that work with twoc ?

Uninsured losses fund seems more likely.

chrisonatrike wrote:

On that basis the override idea doesn't work (I imagine the argument runs) because it's exactly when people are stressed / under immediate threat that you'd need it, so that will delay them / they'll just keep stamping vainly on the pedals because they won't remember.

It always seemed to work fine for Michael Knight.

David9694 wrote:

I wish Road.cc would fix the broken threading. 

I think there's a few of us dupes around... 

What's broken about it? It seems to work okay, though it's not well suited for this large, ragtag collection of crashes.

mdavidford wrote:

chrisonatrike wrote:

On that basis the override idea doesn't work (I imagine the argument runs) because it's exactly when people are stressed / under immediate threat that you'd need it, so that will delay them / they'll just keep stamping vainly on the pedals because they won't remember.

It always seemed to work fine for Michael Knight.

I stand corrected! Just legislate that they have to have the series playing on the in car entertainment system in their KITT the whole time they're driving...

There was a fun one on an episode of Police Speed Traffic Interceptor Cops - a bloke was pulled over for doing somewhere over 100mph on a motorway.  With his eleven year old son on the back seat.  When questioned by the officer, turns out they were in a rush because the son was late for his (IIRC) violin lesson...

brooksby wrote:

There was a fun one on an episode of Police Speed Traffic Interceptor Cops - a bloke was pulled over for doing somewhere over 100mph on a motorway.  With his eleven year old son on the back seat.  When questioned by the officer, turns out they were in a rush because the son was late for his (IIRC) violin lesson...

I hope they prosecuted him for domestic violins

chrisonatrike wrote:

David9694 wrote:

If a car has had an impact at above say 3 mph, why doesn't it automatically shut itself down for 5-10 minutes? It's very clear that drivers can't be relied on to stop any more. 

In one way yes - we have things like ABS so you could speculate on a version of the "parking assist" tech that detected when collision with objects ahead was inevitable without braking and applied the brakes. Still a bit complicated. However... as we all know from tales here there are times when "for safety" you have to increase speed. Can't recall seeing it written down but I'm sure someone will have some stories about "...and then I saw the lorry barrelling at me and if I hadn't booted it..." or "we could see flames coming from the back of the tanker so we floored it and just avoided the blast".

Less flippantly you could conjecture a need to e.g. drive someone to hospital following an accident. Or maybe the accident occured on the way there? But fundamentally the accellerator pedal is seen as just as vital as the brake so I doubt this one's got (right) legs.

VW have something along those lines - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5NpXHxkrJc

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Volkswagen's Multi Collision Brake is a system that applies the brakes to prevent or mitigate a subsequent impact when a vehicle has been involved in a collision. If the airbag is fired in response to a primary collision, information is sent to the electronic stability control system to brake the vehicle. If the braking system is sufficiently intact to brake safely and effectively, the vehicle is automatically slowed down at a rate of 6ms-2 to a speed of 10km/h so that a secondary impact, for instance against another vehicle or roadside object, is avoided or at least less severe.