Drivers and their problems

There are a number of legal terms and defining what the car park is will ultimately define whether a traffic offence has been committed.

The car park, although private land, is open and accessible to the public by motor vehicle, and is defined as a "public space accessible by road". Not sure whether that actually counts as a road in and of itself. Some public car parks (on private land) will be managed by private firms who may apply such rules as a byelaw. This will typically be listed on the car park use T's and C's (singposted at regular intervals)

Don't drive through floods and if you slow down a bit the damage to wheels and tyres by potholes are minimised.

David9694 wrote:

The Welsh roundabout exit which has cost thousands of drivers half a million pounds in just one year

The simply staggering figure is substantially more than all the other parking offence fines for an entire county put together

Another motorist agreed, writing: “This happened to me! Couldn’t believe it! It’s easy to see the signage once you realise, but there are so many signs around there."

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/welsh-roundabout-exit-cost...

Solution 

https://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/local-news/car-clears-st-ives-bus-...

There is only one comment under the article from somewhat called "Marc." 

Wrong name: "Moronic Moron" would be nearer to the truth. 

The Larger Cyclist wrote:

Solution 

https://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/local-news/car-clears-st-ives-bus-...

Cambridge News wrote:

Cllr Kevin Reynolds from Cambridgeshire County Council, admitted he has little sympathy for the drivers who get stuck. He said: “If people driving along that road cannot see a big hole in the ground in front of them then I would argue they wouldn’t be able to see a small child. I would question whether they should be behind the wheel at all.”

essexian wrote:

There is only one comment under the article from somewhat called "Marc." 

Wrong name: "Moronic Moron" would be nearer to the truth. 

Makes you wonder if the comment is self-congratulatory.

('Good job whoever did it,' regarding the road signs cut down in Wales, for context.)

David9694 wrote:

What is this slowing down of which you speak?

Maidstone driver ‘frustrated’ after A249 pothole near Stockbury Roundabout causes £700 damage to her Nissan Qashqai

We were only travelling 50mph, as that was the speed limit through the roadworks

https://www.kentonline.co.uk/sittingbourne/news/who-is-responsible-for-p...

Looks like that car can be had with 16", 17", or 18" wheels. Any bets on what she has? If she'd chosen the 215/65R16 size, she'd have spent less money, got a smoother ride, better fuel economy, and probably wouldn't have a damaged wheel. But then it wouldn't look as silly.

andystow wrote:

David9694 wrote:

What is this slowing down of which you speak?

Maidstone driver ‘frustrated’ after A249 pothole near Stockbury Roundabout causes £700 damage to her Nissan Qashqai

We were only travelling 50mph, as that was the speed limit through the roadworks

https://www.kentonline.co.uk/sittingbourne/news/who-is-responsible-for-p...

Looks like that car can be had with 16", 17", or 18" wheels. Any bets on what she has? If she'd chosen the 215/65R16 size, she'd have spent less money, got a smoother ride, better fuel economy, and probably wouldn't have a damaged wheel. But then it wouldn't look as silly.

Looking at the photos of the alleged damage to her wheels… If she is that concerned about a small scratch to her alloys then she probably ought to leave that Qashqai at home.

I live in Carmarthenshire (though not in Llangadog) and we've got the same issue - ever since the 20mph thing came in, a bunch of petuant children - upset that they're no longer allowed to do 60mph through residential areas - sneak out at night to cut down all the speed signs. As some of the signs in the above story were 20mph signs, I'd imagine it's the same motivation (if not the same people).

It makes driving a bit stressful really, because they're cutting down speed signs and signs warning of things like tight corners, so you'll be driving through a posted 60mph limit and all of a sudden you'll drive past a 40mph repeater and then you're wondering how long you've been doing 20 over because they've cut down the large transitional signs. They're essentially tricking people into driving too quick for the conditions.

This is the case in Blaenwaun - it used to be that the whole Heol Shon was NSL, but now they've made Blaenwaun, and a stretch either side 40mph - except you can only tell this because they've missed one repeater on the SanClar side that lets you know you've been speeding through the whole village. 

David9694 wrote:

Drive to the conditions, not the NSL - but drivers couldn't manage that, so on we go til we get to the "blanket" restriction stage. 

Oh yeah, I 100% agree - I’m one of the guys on here who bangs on about NSL usually meaning “remote” rather than “safe to drive at 60”.

But these are fairly straight, fairly wide roads with decent daylight visibility. The 40mph limit (which is new and came with the 20mph rollout) is, I think, more due to the likelihood of people walking in the road due to the accumulation of houses (“village” is probably a strong word). Of course, you wouldn’t know that unless you were a local - so the current experience is driving at an appropriate speed for an NSL road with good sightlines, only notice a 40 repeater (with no transitional signs before it) and wonder how long you’ve been speeding.