New drink-driving ban for Jonathan Tiernan-Locke

don simon wrote:

Sounds like the guy needs a bit of help and understanding Not going to get that here, is he? We're all real men.

How do you know peoples genders over the internet ?

And bless - ok so he nearly killed three kids but bless his lil socks.  He's troubled.

fenix wrote:

don simon wrote:

Sounds like the guy needs a bit of help and understanding Not going to get that here, is he? We're all real men.

 

How do you know peoples genders over the internet ?

 

And bless - ok so he nearly killed three kids but bless his lil socks.  He's troubled.

 

 

You're absolutely correct, and I apologise. I should have been more aware of the gender question. The assumption that females have more empathy than males is a true misconception in these modern times of blurred lines, I don't mean Robin Thicke blurred lines as that might upset you more, I mean that we, as people, are more equal than ever and should be treated as such. We should demonstrate the same level of understanding and empathy for others in the way we expect of ourselves.

I think that should deflect enough from the fact that you have fuck all understanding of mental health issues and certainly no empathy.

I suggest that if the guy has such a drinking problem, then  there are underlying reasons for this that you appear incapable of understanding.

May karma bite you on the balls!

Have a great weekend!!!   

fenix wrote:

Why not ? Certainly adds a lot more to the story.

Pissed up and driving a tank of a car into a car carrying children. 

What a w&nker. 

Apologies for spilling over from other threads, Blazing Saddles-style, but I don't get your rationale. You call out this blatantly antisocial behaviour. OK.

But for me, it isn't binary, whereby you're either driving pissed into kids or cyclists, or you're not. It's a sliding scale, where the antisocial behaviour is ratcheted up gradually, and that includes all sorts of being a twat on the road.

I know that cyclists can be twats on the road. But that has such little actual impact (that we can measure and debate) as to be negligible, and the KSI risk that comes with being a twat on the road, as a cyclist, is pretty much all on the cyclist.

(@madcarew - we don't have stats for the mental and emotional impacts that squashed cyclists might cause, hence me focusing on KSI stats, which we do have - roughly. I'm sure there is third-party trauma from getting yourself squashed, as you said on another thread, but how much is anyone's guess; you think it's 100, I think it's 1 - it's a pointless debate. What we measure, in KSI stats, says that drivers cause virtually ALL the problems.) 

Ill-conceived comments like Hoy's and products like those gloves help to create the impression that ALL road users are responsible for that antisocial behaviour, and its impacts. That's just bullshit.

madcarew wrote:

And for those of you with the tar and feathers ready... There but for the grace of God....

A fictional sky fairy isn't going to help him.

More like 'there but for the sake of keeping your shit together'. Plenty do, without regularly getting in their 2-ton death machine while off their box.

davel wrote:

madcarew wrote:

And for those of you with the tar and feathers ready... There but for the grace of God....

A fictional sky fairy isn't going to help him. More like 'there but for the sake of keeping your shit together'. Plenty do, without regularly getting in their 2-ton death machine while off their box.

Fictional sky fairies weren't invoked or implied, being a good pastafarian myself. Just a well known figure of speech. Perhaps more properly

"There, but for the good grace of my genetic and social advantages, go I.

Valbrona wrote:

Ford Ranger = knobhead vehicle par excellence.

Oh get back in your box, you pointless troll.

I got mine to compensate for my tiny penis.

Jimmy Ray Will wrote:

Man, you really are a bunch of key board warriors aren't you?

Here is another view... this is a man failing... falling apart. His world, reputation torn from him in what, in his eyes at the very least, was an unjust suspension. Whatever you may think about him being a pantomime villian who doesn't give a shit, I see a man  with deep mental health problems failing to cope and simply failing.

Lets play this out... should he ultimately take his own life, do you warriors celebrate the death of scum at the end of your virtual pitch forks, or maybe question just how much importance you, me all of us place on riding pissing bikes? 

Judging those being judgemental. Alanis is on the phone, she wants... well, you know.

Of course it's a lot more complicated than anyone will nail on here. But if all Joe Public knows about you is that you rode bikes for a living, got caught with a dodgy biological passport and tried to blame it on a large night out and whinged about it, and then got caught drink-driving, then some of those Joe Publics a going to think you're a twat who's lying about doping, or a twat who's pissed away a promising cycling career, or both.

That isn't  a failing of those Joe Publics - that's just How Fame Works.

Also, no-one was behaving like a keyboard warrior - nobody's been anywhere near as hysterical as you seem to have interpreted, and nobody's threatening to give him a shoeing.

Jimmy Ray Will wrote:

Man, you really are a bunch of key board warriors aren't you?

Here is another view... this is a man failing... falling apart. His world, reputation torn from him in what, in his eyes at the very least, was an unjust suspension. Whatever you may think about him being a pantomime villian who doesn't give a shit, I see a man  with deep mental health problems failing to cope and simply failing.

Lets play this out... should he ultimately take his own life, do you warriors celebrate the death of scum at the end of your virtual pitch forks, or maybe question just how much importance you, me all of us place on riding pissing bikes? 

 

 

 

If he takes his own life lets hope he does it before he kills someone else whilst drink driving!  Maybe he does have mental problems and he can get help for that, although it won't be an instant fix.  A shame for a talented rider but he has to resign himself to a normal life now, he's not a superstar and I'd sooner he never made headlines again.  That way he'd have his life back on track too with any luck.

atlaz wrote:

Can we (well, I'm looking at you road.cc) now put him in a box marked "dickhead", put that box in a drawer, lock it and lose the key? I don't see any reason to mention him again. Ever.  

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