British woman breaks Everesting world record – and gets mansplained over saddle height

on point 2, Vicky P isnt as instantly recognisable as a former pro Team GB multiple olympic,world,european,commonwealth champion cyclist anymore, she looks like any other woman just out riding her bike,, so no one is dropping a gear just to ride or keep up with her because of who she is.

Shes talking about the thing that nearly every woman riding a bike has experienced, at least once, if theyve overtaken a man riding a bike, the man instantly speeds up to try to retake the road position ahead of you for no other reason than their competitive male egos cant accept being bested by a woman.

Surely everyone, regardless of gender, has had that experience?

It's happened to me multiple times, some people just don't like being overtaken.

I'm not particularly fast so I don't overtake many people, I imagine Pendleton probably does!

I think she is out of the saddle.

Really? You're doubling down on this? Did you read the article? 

caw35ride wrote:

Excuse me for butting in but, congratulations Hannah, what an incredible performance!

I was about to say the same, amazing performance however she was riding, I know I wouldn't be able to do that..

The take away from this chart is never offer to help a woman... she'll ask if she wants any help.

That's fair enough, and having read a few of these threads over the years this is exactly what I do... doesn't matter how bad, dangerous or stupid the activity / situation in question, I just let it go. Learn your own lessons no matter how hard.

I do however think this is a real shame and hope one day that a male could offer genuine insight without automatically being considered a mysognist and wanting to assert their male dominance. 

Sad times

There's a difference between offering help and just launching into an unwanted explanation. You can also consider whether you'd offer the same help/advice if the person was male.

I'm sure you can work out when it's a good time to offer a woman advice / help. In the case of Hannah Rhodes, (an incredibly accomplished cyclist), unless you're some world class professional saddle fitter, best leave it. It's quite simple really. When in doubt, just ask if they need a hand, rather than launching in and assuming ignorance. 

Rick_Rude wrote:

Woman gets comment from man ......well the chances are sort of 50/50 it's going to be a man or woman.

The term "mansplaining" exists for a very good reason. Have you only just joined the internet and perhaps not understood?

I just think this is an incredible achievement and wouldn't dare to pass judgement in some snide fashion (not even if I was someone who could do it faster).

Exactly, what next?

Excuse me, Mr Froome, that arm position isn't very aero. That upright running style will never get you anywhere, Mr Johnson. Oh, and Herr Mozart, your tunes are a bit samey. Oi Einstein, get a haircut! How many women said this in public forums? That's why there's not a concept of womansplaining.

It pains me, but this kind of idiocy is 99% male. The only time I've ever experienced it not being so is when a young woman approached me to give unsolicited tips on child care in a museum. And I do think she was sincerely trying to help.

It's an interesting point, but I have heard a commentator ask Johnson about his style, to which the reply was "works for me" (sounding bored of the question). I also hear a lot of comments that Mr Froome's style on a bike 'is not pretty' (in a slightly disparaging way), leading to discussion of high cadence. Paula Radcliff was another example.

To me we've missed the fascinating question - why has this non conventional position worked so well for her ? (though, of course, there's a lot more bedsides to such an amazing feat). It almost looks as if the setting is designed for a 'standing style' of climbing without leaving the saddle. Maybe it utilises the calves better? I can't see it working on the flat, but who knows? And with some gravelers using dropper posts it would be possible to vary across a ride. I think I'll raise my saddle a touch and try a known climb, good for a laugh if nothing else.

Completely missing the point. Why is mansplaining even a thing. It's the assumption of sexism when maybe it was shit advice that happened to be given by a man with no sexism implied. Did the person specifically say 'being a woman youve done xyz wrong'? Or it the assumption of sexism coming from others, in fact actually reinforcing problems that arent there?

Completely missing the point. Why is mansplaining even a thing. It's the assumption of sexism when maybe it was shit advice that happened to be given by a man with no sexism implied. Did the person specifically say 'being a woman youve done xyz wrong'? Or it the assumption of sexism coming from others, in fact actually reinforcing problems that arent there?

Completely missing the point. Why is mansplaining even a thing. It's the assumption of sexism when maybe it was shit advice that happened to be given by a man with no sexism implied. Did the person specifically say 'being a woman youve done xyz wrong'? Or it the assumption of sexism coming from others, in fact actually reinforcing problems that arent there?

Completely missing the point. Why is mansplaining even a thing. It's the assumption of sexism when maybe it was shit advice that happened to be given by a man with no sexism implied. Did the person specifically say 'being a woman youve done xyz wrong'? Or it the assumption of sexism coming from others, in fact actually reinforcing problems that arent there?

You seem to have posted the same thing several times.  Do you need someone, preferably male, to explain how to not do that?

The point is, would the commenter have so freely posted a comment on trivial issues such as saddle height if it was a male rider having achieved this? knowing what some cyclists are like, maybe, but most of the time it's the unsolicited 'advice' that men give to women that they likely wouldn't have offered to a man in the same situation.