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“Schrodinger’s bike bell”: Cyclists “can’t win” as Guardian writer asks for “just one ding from speeding cyclists” but others cite pedestrian conflict; Tour Brown Under: Lachlan Morton confesses “I sh*t myself three times” on Ride Around Australia + more

It’s a Friday and Adwitiya is your live blog host tasked with ushering in the weekend… and also, bringing you all the cycling news and reaction round-up

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17 January 2025, 09:34
Shared Path Cyclists Slow - image via Sam Saunders on Flickr.jpg
“Wheeled threats spoil serenity”: Guardian columnist wants “just one ding from speeding cyclists”, prompting discussion about shared paths, bells, and pedestrians “getting out of the way”

In the same week three cyclists in Adelaide were injured after hitting a wire trap strewn across a shared path, those very shared paths are now the centre of a raging online debate, with a column in Guardian Australia sharing (erm, no pun intended) a “petty gripe” with cyclists, or as they are described in the second paragraph: “wheeled threats” who can “spoil the serenity”.

What could possibly push someone to have such strong opinions about cyclists, you ask? Well, because according to the columnist, cyclists’ cardinal sin is not ringing bells when passing pedestrians on shared paths, turning “peaceful walkways into something more like racetracks”.

> Teenager charged with endangering life after wire strung across popular bike path, causing two serious crashes in “stupid, sinister, malicious” attack ahead of Tour Down Under pro races

Viv Smythe, the columnist, however, specifies that it’s not all cyclists — it’s only the “subset who fly past pedestrians as if the shared pathway is a velodrome”. She adds: “It’s especially alarming when a cycling group whoosh-whoosh-whooshes past with never a bell sounded beforehand, nor a slowing of speed. Now I appreciate that they are forced to pursue their hobby in a city that hates cyclists. And that many cyclists believe pedestrians will respond poorly if they sound their bell as they approach.

“But I appreciate even more those cyclists who demonstrably know that the space is not for their exclusive use and take shared pathway safety seriously (unlike the retiree cyclist who berated my retiree husband for walking on a ‘bike path’).”

She ends the column describing her “favourite” kind of cyclists — “As they approach and slow for overtaking, the lead rider loudly calls something like ‘bikes coming through, six of us’ so pedestrians are alerted, and then as the first rider comes through they say ‘five more behind’, the next rider says ‘four more behind’ and so on, until the final rider says ‘last one’. We’ve been passed by several groups doing this now, and you are all awesome,” she concludes.

> Government rejects calls for cyclists to be required to use a bell

However, not many cyclists online seemed to agree with this sentiment of ringing their bells while passing pedestrians. Lawrence Davies wrote on Bluesky: “My wife stopped ringing her bell on shared paths when a guy started screaming at her for using it. Apparently the bell means ‘you need to get out of the way’.”

My petty gripe: I just want one ding from speeding cyclists. How hard can it be?

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— Guardian Australia (@australia.theguardian.com) 16 January 2025 at 14:04

Another Bluesky user also seconded this opinion, saying: “Here's my experience: when I ring my bell on a shared path, I think I am saying, ‘I’m about to pass you.’ But what a significant percentage hear is ‘Get out of my way’, so they leap right into my path,” while one person wrote: “The people who write this need to go spend some time on a bike and experience how many people hear a bike bell and immediately jump into your path because they assume it means they're in the way and need to move.”

And then there was Lumberjack Wharfie (Bluesky username, of course), who replied: “Yeah buddy that’s nice and all until we get an article in the Guardian titled ‘My petty gripe: How dare you ding a bell at me?’”

So here’s my question to you, do you ring bells when passing pedestrians on a shared bike path, or do you rely more on your vocal chords to alert them that you’re coming through — or maybe you choose to do neither? Let us know in the comments what’s your usual go-to and why…

17 January 2025, 15:52
“Schrodinger’s bike bell”: Prof Ian Walker says “cyclists cannot win” in the to bell or not to bell debate

Professor Ian Walker, the environmental psychologist at Swansea University, most notably known for the studies involving driver behaviour when overtaking cyclists, has chimed in on the great old bike bell debate, writing: “Cyclists cannot win. For every ‘I want you to ring your bell at me’ there is an equal and opposite "How dare you ring your bell at me.’”

Cyclists cannot win. For every "I want you to ring your bell at me" there is an equal and opposite "How dare you ring your bell at me"

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— Prof. Ian Walker (@ianwalker.bsky.social) 16 January 2025 at 15:01

And the tweet Bluesky post has resulted in even more cyclists coming forward and narrating their confusing experiences after ringing a bell when passing pedestrians.

George Morgan said: “A lot of people seem to interpret a Ding as always equavalent of an angry Beep. And it sometimes is but it’s more often a friendly, ‘Hey, just letting you know I’m here’. But they assume it’s the same as a car.”

Walker replied saying: “Exactly. Which is one reason articles like that one are so unhelpful.”

But a few have also come up with solutions, so to speak, on how to avoid such conflict.

Fernanda Ferreira said: “My strategy as a commuter cyclist is to say ‘ding ding’ in the friendliest voice possible and follow up with a thank you. A lot of pedestrians seem to find the bell aggressive, which makes no sense but the passing situation doesn’t allow for a conversation about it.”

17 January 2025, 16:50
Lachlan Morton, Lap of Australia attempt (Karter Machen/ EF Education-EasyPost)
Tour Brown Under: Lachlan Morton confesses “I sh*t myself three times” on Ride Around Australia

450km a day for a month, sweltering heat and headwinds, and dodging kangaroos and truck drivers… with poo running down your leg.

Sorry if I might make anyone uncomfortable during their afternoon tea and snacks (I certainly don’t have any appetite right now), but EF Education-EasyPost rider Lachlan Morton has confessed that he “sh*t” himself three times during his 14,210km long Ride Around Australia.

In what I think is a more tasteful video from a pro cycling team for a change, the team sat down its riders (erm, no pun intended) for a confessional — don’t ask my why — however, most riders came up with boring, vanilla confessions.

“I watched the Tour de France Femmes but not the Tour de France for men.”

“My record in a coffee shop is four cappuccinos and three cookies.”

“One time in a coffee shop, I had four cappuccinos and four cookies.”

“I do face and nose masks with my wife.”

Boooooring.

And then there’s Lachlan Morton, who launches an explosive (no, really, it’s unintentional) confession straight out of the gate: “I’m Lachlan Morton. It’s been 18 years since my last confession. This year I sh*t myself three times on the ride around Australia.”

> “The truck driver actually tried to kill me”: Lachlan Morton forced to “bail off the side of the road” as lorry driver “kept going directly at me” and “didn’t move his truck one inch” during monster ‘Lap of Australia’ effort

To be fair, I’ll give it to Lukas Nerurkar, who manages to hold his own (okay last one, I promise): “I had six cappuccinos and six cookies and I sh*t myself four times.”

But perhaps the most relatable confession, at least for your live blog host, came from team manager Jonathan Vaughters:  “I’m JV and I’m a really truly sh*t bike mechanic. Changing a flat tyre during a training ride? I need other people to help me.”

Ouch, remind me never to do confessionals.

17 January 2025, 17:57
“Bicycle Redistribution Point”: Spoof sign highlights train station’s bike theft problem, as designer slams police inaction and lack of security for cyclists
17 January 2025, 16:17
Cyclist, NHS worker, and Sheffield bike lane guardian, Helen, better known as ‘CyclingInASkirt’ on social media, reaches “end of treatment” for cancer

It’s a sad day for regulars of cycling Twitter and the community in general, as Helen, who you might know better as ‘CyclingInASkirt’, has reached the “end of treatment” for cancer.

A Sheffield resident, Helen was a regular of this very niche corner of social media. In September 2023, she announced that she was diagnosed with cervical cancer and would be starting daily chemo and radiotherapy for treatment.

Unfortunately, this morning, Michael, her husband shared the following message: “As some of you may know Helen’s last scan showed that the cancer has grown and is impacting kidney function. This means we have reached the end of the road for treatment and are focusing on keeping Helen comfortable.

“The boys and I are heartbroken but also surrounded by so much love and care, and St Lukes Hospice have just been off the scale brilliant every step of the way.

“Apologies for the blunt nature of this message. I’ve been dreading sending it and feel like I just need to put out the bare facts for now. Massive love to each and every one of you who have followed Helen’s journey, I know she has taken great strength from your support.”

Love and support to Helen from all of us at road.cc.

17 January 2025, 15:06
Women’s cycling team sports director banned for five years over “inappropriate” sexual and psychological behaviour towards riders
17 January 2025, 13:36
Ineos Grenadiers, 2024 Tour of Britain (Elliot Keen/British Cycling/via SWpix.com)
“It’s fair to say that Ineos don’t want to spend more money”: Ineos Grenadiers seeking a second title sponsor as team admits it’ll “take years before we’re back to winning Grand Tours”

It’s not unknown to any cycling fan by this point that the once world-beating squad of Ineos Grenadiers has been some way off the top in the last few years, failing to win a Grand Tour since Egan Bernal took the pink jersey at the Giro d’Italia in 2021.

With one of the team’s stars Tom Pidcock leaving on not-so-amicable terms to join Q36.5 Pro Cycling last month, it only looks like things will get more difficult before they get better for the British team — and the team’s new personnel, with Scott Drawer in his second year as the Performance Director, along with Zak Dempster and Kurt Arvesen coming in as directeur sportifs to replace the outgoing Steve Cummings, are not afraid to accept that.

> "Dysfunctional clown show": Cycling fans react to Tom Pidcock's departure and accuse Ineos Grenadiers of "complete lack of ambition" and "monumental" decline

Speaking to Cyclingnews, Arvesen said: “We need to come back and win bike races, start to win stages. Every race counts. It might take one, two, three or four years before we’re back, winning a Grand Tour, but I'm convinced we’re going to be. 

“There are only three Grand Tours, there’s only only three winners, so it’s very difficult.”

Ineos Grenadiers Gobik kit 2024

But there’s still concern about team owner Sir Jim Ratcliffe’s commitment to funding the team — the British billionaire of course has another arguably more lucrative ‘sinking ship’ project to focus on in Manchester United with Portuguese manager Ruben Amorim at the helm.

Despite Ineos Grenadiers’ CEO John Allert confirming the team will exist until the 2028 UCI WorldTour and praising the owners for being “very passionate about this sport”, he confirmed the team was in fact, seeking out a second title sponsor.

“It’s fair to say that Ineos don’t want to spend more money,” Allert said. “So it depends entirely on what happens with this commercial activity. They very clearly do want us to be a super team and they know what it takes to be a super team. I'm not going to put a number on that, but it’s a number that's greater than what we're currently spending. 

“You don’t need to be that clued-up to realise there’s a reason why we’re trying to bring other people on that journey with us. There’s value to be created for other brands and we don’t necessarily feel we have to, need to, or want to, go it alone. 

“I’ve heard some bonkers rumours in the last couple of weeks about people buying us or investing in us or whatever else. 

“We certainly have a commercial strategy that is an evolution of our strategy. We’ve appointed an agency and we're looking at commercial partnership opportunities, like most other teams are. 

“It’s a very crowded market. We haven't signed anybody. I'm not aware of us imminently signing anybody.”

2024 Ineos Grenadiers group ride Pinarello Dogma F

> “Team Circus continues”: Tom Pidcock dropped by Ineos due to risk of bonus payout claims Brian Smith, who says there’s “no fun in numbers-driven cycling anymore” as “gagged” Steve Cummings confirms exit

Drawer also spoke about the rapid pace at which the sport is changing, from the rise of Tadej Pogačar and other young riders to the growth of the big-budget super teams, and even new performance science such as the ability to ingest more carbohydrates during races and so race longer and harder. 

He said: “Some of the most critical things that have probably shaped why we’ve reshaped ourselves are based on the changes that have really happened in the sport.

“I think the trends in racing, particularly pre and post-COVID have changed the nature of the type of cyclists that are now in the peloton. So we've restructured ourselves and set ourselves up to get ahead of that slightly for this year and for the future. 

“Our motivation in our approach to racing is going to be very different, and then there will be a bigger investment in talent. 

“It’s probably one that we've got behind the curve on, but one that we're really accelerating to get ahead of the curveball. 

“You’ve heard some news, and there'll be a lot more news coming out around our importance in that space.”

17 January 2025, 12:20
Team SDWorx is back… with the cringe-worthy cycling videos

The phenomenon of pro cycling teams and their obsession with making the most cringe-worthy, eye roll-deserving social media videos needs to be studied. Notable case studies can include Julian Alaphilippe channelling Celine Dion with bidons for microphone, and TBT-Unibet’s Eurotrash “bike reveal party”.

Now, Team SD Worx–Protime have submitted their entry to this lineage, with Marie Schreber, Julia Kopecky and Mischa Bredewold creating one of those “We are back baby” TikTok remixes with the M83 song Midnight City dubbed with audio from The Hangover.

17 January 2025, 11:55
“I lost a little bit of confidence after the last two years and, well, I was finally racing like I was 18 again”: Daniek Hengeveld bags unexpected solo victory at first stage of Tour Down Under

The road racing season is underway, and we already have a breakthrough winner in the first stage of the Tour Down Under, with Daniek Hengeveld winning thanks to an ambitious solo attack with 50 kilometres to go and holding on until the finish line, foiling any chances of a bunch sprint at the end.

The 22-year-old Dutch rider was ecstatic to win in her first race with Ceratizit-WNT, joining the team after leaving Team DSM-Firmenich PostNL. “I lost a little bit of confidence after the last two years and, well, I was finally racing like I was 18 again,” she told reporters after the stage. “I was like — Oh, this is why I race. It’s really nice.”

“At the end, I just heard my sports director in my ear, ‘Come on, come on, come on’. It’s like, ‘Oh, f***, maybe they’re really close!’ I appreciate that he was still cheering me on because it gave me the extra watts.”

17 January 2025, 11:37
Bike maintenance brand apologises to Sir Chris Hoy and removes video linking cycling legend’s cancer diagnosis to rival chain lube after legal action threatened
17 January 2025, 11:01
Can’t stop the wheeling: Justin Timberlake surprises 200 cyclists by joining Portland Bike Bus

We didn’t see this coming, but as proclaimed by the pop star all the way back in 2006, transitioning from a noodly-haired boyband star to a buzzcut-donning pop sensation, Justin Timberland is bringing sexy back — or should I say SexyBike?

Taking part in the Portland Bike Bus, Timberlake showed up as a special guest to surprise around 200 people, including families and their children for a half-mile ride down Northeast Klickitat Street to Alameda Elementary School, bumping his hits like Mirrors and Can’t Stop the Wheeling. I mean, Can’t Stop the Feeling.

The group, which organises the ride every Wednesday, went viral in October when they posted a plea on social media for the Memphis crooner to join them while in town for a concert, racking up over ten million views on TikTok and Instagram.

Samuel Balto, founder of BikeBusPDX and a former physical education teacher, said he had extended the invitation to Timberlake because “he’s awesome”. “I grew up listening to him. He’s got a lot of generational reach — everyone knows who Justin Timberlake is,” he said.

“I think that Justin Timberlake joining the Bike Bus would set a great example for how people can get around — on a bike — for everyday transportation.”

Given Timberlake’s conviction of drink driving last September, maybe he should steer clear of motor vehicles anyway and give bikes a spin. If he wants to go faster still, he can always put on a skinsuit… and tie.

17 January 2025, 10:09
Remembering a visionary, an icon, a legend — David Lynch

One of the reasons I fell in love with cinema was the vivid, audacious, and surreal worlds conjured by the silver-haired filmmaker from Montana, completely reshaping how I viewed the art form. So when I saw the news of David Lynch’s death — after walking out of the cinema with a heavy heart thanks to the (really great) movie A Real Pain, no less — let’s just say your live blog host found it difficult to focus on the doughnut instead of the hole.

Lynch, who became a Hollywood legend with his boundary-pushing works like Eraserhead, Blue Velvet, Mulholland Drive, and the TV series Twin Peaks, passed away last night, aged 78, after being diagnosed with emphysema.

So to celebrate and remember the icon, truly one of the best to ever do it, here’s an image of Lynch riding a tandem with his high-school sweetheart.

David Lynch on a tandem (@TheFilmStage on Twitter)
(@TheFilmStage on Twitter)

Adwitiya joined road.cc in 2023 as a news writer after completing his masters in journalism from Cardiff University. His dissertation focused on active travel, which soon threw him into the deep end of covering everything related to the two-wheeled tool, and now cycling is as big a part of his life as guitars and football. He has previously covered local and national politics for Voice Cymru, and also likes to write about science, tech and the environment, if he can find the time. Living right next to the Taff trail in the Welsh capital, you can find him trying to tackle the brutal climbs in the valleys.

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polainm | 4 weeks ago
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All part of the UK fetid toxic culture of social media and driver-centric anger against people trying to ride a bicycle. 

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E6toSE3 | 1 month ago
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I read that Guardian article this morning. It did seem like a few hundred words of filler for a fee. Bells in East London: not heard due to headphones or generate angry reaction, so best not used. Even a polite "Excuse me..." can kick off rage but at least one such experience was understandable when I saw the quite large group of cyclists that would have gone past the angry individual a few minutes earlier - not nice people.
Runners are worst. The serious runners are in a zone and brook no-one being in a position to upset their stride. Have to admit I had to fight that instinct in myself when I was younger and running hard. On canal paths and other shared use paths, I'll be on the 7-speed urban bike and, consequently, less pumped up than running

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chrisonabike replied to E6toSE3 | 1 month ago
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Bells in East London: not heard due to headphones or generate angry reaction ...

Well they're not true cockneys then.

https://www.bells.org/blog/you-are-true-cockney-if-you-hear-bow-bells

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wtjs | 1 month ago
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Yes (and there's almost no cycling infra up here) I've experienced fairly vigorous criticism for saying hello and not ringing a bell, or for going 'ding ding'. In the past I have rung a bell and had the reactions mentioned below. So I'm sticking with hello

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biking59boomer | 1 month ago
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Not sure how people react to bells in Australia, but here it can get you comments such as "Don't ring your ******* bell at me!!!" 

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Hirsute | 1 month ago
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Could this be Lancs Police ?!

https://youtu.be/IXAQDrTBgHg?t=423

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wtjs replied to Hirsute | 1 month ago
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Could this be Lancs Police ?!

Nothing to say it isn't! They could have prepared a justification for NFA in the unlikely event of them being 'held to account': "driver was indicating, which makes it legal", a police officer must witness the event, confirmatory video required from the offending vehicle, only a momentary loss of concentration and even (to show they're looking out for dodges from other forces) : driver has no recollection of the incident etc.

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open_roads | 1 month ago
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TLDR: people are becoming self entitled dicks.

The whole passing people business is becoming increasingly difficult.

On my rides (city based so canal and river paths etc) I encounter loads of people wearing noise cancelling headphones. I use my bell then when that doesn't work say "excuse me can I squeeze past" and often land up saying that several times louder each time.

And yet I still get shouted at for "creeping up" on people from behind.

Then there's runners who have a very consistent behaviour of swapping the side of the path they are on right at the last minute - moving from the other side to my side and running straight towards me and then telling me to "watch" where I'm going. It's akin to magnets pulling towards each other.

I also got whacked across the head with a walking stick by an elderly "gentleman"  who took offence at me using my bell to alert him of my presence. That was after slowing down and cycling behind him for 20-30 m clicking my brake levers and saying "hello can I get past" a couple of times.

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Rome73 | 1 month ago
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When on a shared path I slow down, unlcip my foot from the pedal and the noise of the SPD cleat clicking in and out several times usually alerts pedestrians and  I always say thank you.  I don't use a bell. Recently, I came to a stop and said 'excuse me' to a group of three walkers who were blocking a shared path. They turned on me and started berating me for NOT using a bell.  'But I've come to a complete stop and politely asked you to excuse me'.
Sometimes, you just can't win. 

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Nighttrain123 replied to Rome73 | 1 month ago
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The ramblers (often retired folk) on the TPT can often be the most territorial and passive-aggressive bunch. They have to make a huge drama about cyclist passing.

At times, I find the TPT painful to use and a no-go on bank holidays or weekends.

Dogs are often the biggest problem. The shared path is treated like a dog park. Dog leads many meters long. Dogs running under your wheel. Use a park to play fetch with your stupid dog not a shared path.

The path is very wide in places but walkers and dog owners want to use the entire width.

The Guardian article cited their right of way but by the same token the Highway Code says not to block the path. They know it's a shared path so why so take the whole width?

Why am I made to feel like their guest on a shared path? Most paths in Cheshire, I'm not allowed to cycle on, but dog owners and walkers must also dominate the TPT!?

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HoarseMann | 1 month ago
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I downloaded a sound clip of a bus engine idling and play it on loop via a bluetooth speaker on the handlebars - works a treat with pedestrians on shared paths / park roads.

Strangely, they dutifully move to the side when they hear the rumble of a large vehicle's engine coming up behind them. It's almost like they've been trained.

I find ringing a bicycle bell can have very mixed results. From being thanked for having a bell, to being chastised for having the temeritry to use it. From being completely ignored, to suddenly scattering in a wild panic. You just never know what you're going to get!

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chrisonabike replied to HoarseMann | 1 month ago
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Thanks!  This is what we need - market research.

What is the best noise for effecting notification of pedestrians (and ideally predictable lateral movement to leave room to progress) without triggering a negative emotional response *?

I wonder if you could volunteer and try a few different ones (I may try this game myself also)?

Car (road noise)
Sports car revving / accellerating
2 stroke motorbike engine
Rumble of approaching truck
Whine of e-motorbike motor

Perhaps throw in a few different ones as controls: noise of charging rugby forwards / herd of cows, horse trotting, steam train, helicopter etc?

PS. Also agree on the bell - quite mixed responses (but you definitely can't win in every case anyway) and now if definitely safe to do so I pass slowly - without any special alert other than perhaps coughing / changing gear.  And assume that any given person may be deaf.

* Probably a contradiction here - a very few folks won't shift without being in fear of mortal danger.

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Nighttrain123 replied to chrisonabike | 1 month ago
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I recently saw (and heard) a guy on a bike in Brazil with a white noise generator that sounded intermittently (but regularly). It seemed effective but would probably drive me mad as a rider.

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HoarseMann replied to chrisonabike | 1 month ago
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I think there's two things going on with it. One is that, for some reason, some pedestrians seem more agreeable to making way for a motorised vehicle than a bicycle. The other is the continuous sound allows them to gradually become aware of an approaching vehicle as it gets steadily louder, rather than being startled by silence interrupted with a loud ringing/honking.

Perhaps the best option would be an audible alert, akin to what electric vehicles now have to emit below a certain speed. This can be linked to the speed of the bicycle, so it changes tone with changes in speed.

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wtjs replied to HoarseMann | 1 month ago
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Calling HoarseMann!

Please see Rendel's Met. topic about their so-far non-materialised copy of the Northamptonshire scheme to inform victims of outcomes, to see my request to you

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chrisonabike replied to HoarseMann | 1 month ago
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HoarseMann wrote:

Perhaps the best option would be an audible alert, akin to what electric vehicles now have to emit below a certain speed. This can be linked to the speed of the bicycle, so it changes tone with changes in speed.

Spokey dokeys! (you'd have to be going slowly though)

Or even a broken deraillieur for a rave-up...

Hmm... it all comes back to Trotify, it seems.

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Nighttrain123 replied to HoarseMann | 1 month ago
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Sometimes I think I should just min-max my bell and strap an air horn to my handlebar. It would deal with the typical runner with headphones, and the otherwise hard of hearing.

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kingleo | 1 month ago
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Those pedestrians on shared paths that walk several abreast blocking the path always Anony me, along with dog walkers with their dogs on long leads across the path.

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E6toSE3 replied to kingleo | 1 month ago
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They annoy me as cyclist, runner, and pedestrian. Age 69, I walk nearly 15 minutes an hour faster than Google Maps expects. Consequently, I walk faster than such groups but it can be very difficult to get past until I almost yell, "Excuse me" and shove my way through. Obviously, I can't do that on bike and the handlebars make me wider.

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mdavidford replied to E6toSE3 | 1 month ago
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E6toSE3 wrote:

I walk nearly 15 minutes an hour faster than Google Maps expects.

If you're going so fast you warp time to that extent, you're definitely a danger to all other traffic, and should consider slowing down.

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chrisonabike replied to mdavidford | 1 month ago
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This is more true than you may think - apparently several acquaintances now define the quickest route between two points in the universe not as the time light takes to travel it but whatever Google's prediction is. Further - such journeys are not expected to take much longer either - "well that's what Google says".

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Nighttrain123 replied to kingleo | 1 month ago
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Same on the TPT. They feel it's their right to dominate all spaces. Strictly, they should never block the path where it's wider than single-track.

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AidanR | 1 month ago
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Top marks for "Tour Brown Under"

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ceebee247 | 1 month ago
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shared paths are just an excuse to avoid putting in proper infrastructure - anyhow used to have a bell and got fed up of people jumping into my path so....

I now have a very loud rear hub on my commuter - sounds like angry wasps - people then turn around to see wtf is heading in their direction - works well  

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chrisonabike replied to ceebee247 | 1 month ago
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ceebee247 wrote:

shared paths are just an excuse to avoid putting in proper infrastructure

Yes - or at best they bake in a low limit to active travel by a) giving authorities an excuse to limiting space and put infra "where it can be done" not where people want to go b) ensuring that as more people use it there will be more conflict between modes c) ensuring there will be conflict anyway.

Having said that the shared-use former railway lines around North Edinburgh are a great resource for me - because of (mostly) rather low use.

Once you work out how much time you spend sat not moving on urban roads (e.g. junctions, traffic lights, pedestrian crossings) you realise even slowing right down for a few walkers is not an impediment by comparison.

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Spangly Shiny replied to ceebee247 | 1 month ago
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Except on the uphill bits; freehubs tend to be a bit quieter then.

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chrisonabike replied to Spangly Shiny | 1 month ago
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Trotify will still work for you though... (more sonic skeuomorphs - restoring the "nag" to "poor-man's nag").

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Mr Blackbird | 1 month ago
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I usually avoid shared paths, except for easy leisure off road rides. Rather than use a bell, I shout "ding a ling a ling", when approaching pedestrians. It means I have both hands on the handlebars and can steer and brake more efficiently.

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hawkinspeter replied to Mr Blackbird | 1 month ago
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Mr Blackbird wrote:

I usually avoid shared paths, except for easy leisure off road rides. Rather than use a bell, I shout "ding a ling a ling", when approaching pedestrians. It means I have both hands on the handlebars and can steer and brake more efficiently.

Ooh - that's a fancy bell noise

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E6toSE3 replied to Mr Blackbird | 1 month ago
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Chuck Berry?

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