Video: Cyclist and driver in huge road rage row in Toronto

The error here was not waiting until Mr Angry got back in his oversized truck, shut his oversized door, and put his [normal-sized, I guess] seatbelt on.

brooksby wrote:

make sure that you can accelerate away from it before the aggrieved owner can catch you.

Need an e-bike with at least 80Nm of torque if you're going to pull that stunt.

HoarseMann wrote:

brooksby wrote:

make sure that you can accelerate away from it before the aggrieved owner can catch you.

Need an e-bike with at least 80Nm of torque if you're going to pull that stunt.

Yeah, but that would be cheating....

Manbun-tastic!

I doubt there will be. Video only started with truck driver getting back in from initial confrontation and remonstrating with cyclist before physically pushing him into the "cycle lane". So was the driver complaining he was in the wrong lane or did the cyclist do a wheelie upto his door first and deserve to be pushed away?

From the indication and placement of the truck, I suspect the driver wanted to suddenly make a right turn (which they can on red) but cyclist wouldn't move out of the way. This is just on the push out the way and the pointing at "lane" action that seems to happen. After that I don't condone the actions of the cyclist at all as he also started to endanger others with first cycling back up against other cyclists and then on the pavement towards a corner / junction. 

The cyclists also tried to slash the vehicle tyre, and vandalism's not a good move. Maybe it was the red mist, who knows? In the end both the driver and cyclist come out of this looking like a pair of idiots.

OldRidgeback wrote:

The cyclists also tried to slash the vehicle tyre, and vandalism's not a good move. Maybe it was the red mist, who knows? In the end both the driver and cyclist come out of this looking like a pair of idiots.

The fact the cyclist was carrying a knife in general doesn't look good, but without the context at the start it's hard to know if the cyclist was attacked, or just aggressive.

Jenova20 wrote:

OldRidgeback wrote:

The cyclists also tried to slash the vehicle tyre, and vandalism's not a good move. Maybe it was the red mist, who knows? In the end both the driver and cyclist come out of this looking like a pair of idiots.

The fact the cyclist was carrying a knife in general doesn't look good, but without the context at the start it's hard to know if the cyclist was attacked, or just aggressive.

Was it a knife?  Wouldn't anything sufficiently rigid and pointy do that particular job?

brooksby wrote:

....Was it a knife?  Wouldn't anything sufficiently rigid and pointy do that particular job?

Have you tried stabbing a 4x4 tyre with anything blunter than a knife?

No neither have I (or with a knife ftm), but I doubt you'd make much of an impression

But the point (see what I did?) is fair, we can't say for a fact that he was carrying a knife, although it certainly is within the realm of possibility.

Captain Badger wrote:

brooksby wrote:

....Was it a knife?  Wouldn't anything sufficiently rigid and pointy do that particular job?

Have you tried stabbing a 4x4 tyre with anything blunter than a knife?

No neither have I (or with a knife ftm), but I doubt you'd make much of an impression

But the point (see what I did?) is fair, we can't say for a fact that he was carrying a knife, although it certainly is within the realm of possibility.

In the interests of full disclosure, I've never tried stabbing a tyre full stop.

brooksby wrote:

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In the interests of full disclosure, I've never tried stabbing a tyre full stop.

Save it for the judge....

Wouldn't a tubeless anchovie insertion tool almost be designed for that very purpose.

I had difficulties with my cheap version and upgrades to the Muc off one

ktache wrote:

Wouldn't a tubeless anchovie insertion tool almost be designed for that very purpose.

I had difficulties with my cheap version and upgrades to the Muc off one

Hmm, interesting, together with reason to carry! I'll bear that in mind, for future discussion of course....

ktache wrote:

Wouldn't a tubeless anchovie insertion tool almost be designed for that very purpose.

I had difficulties with my cheap version and upgrades to the Muc off one

Where exactly did you want to insert an anchovie?

The way he moved his hand when he got it out looked like a butterfly blade. 

I said I didn't condone anything he did after the push on him but concentrated on the 'attempted getaways' because he was putting other people in danger there. 

Note to self:  If you regularly carry a switchblade / box cutter to defend your road conduct in Toronto, bike messenger is not the job for you!  You will probably not live to see 2022 !!  In a battle with a 5,000 pound pickup truck guess who wins?