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I've never had a problem patching,musing lezyne, rema, halfords,whatever.
I know tubes are very cheap now, but that probably means they're made under poor working conditions, plus, it's not very green to throw away one that's repairable.
On the road, I carry a spare tube and a Parktool patch kit.
I was also using patch and glue once at home before.
I have find that patch work better with some brand of inner tube and not as well with other. Rubber type and quality is determinant. Prepping the tube with solvent help to do a stronger bond.
Even with those in consideration, patch from time to time unglued, specially when the hole is big. Some patch are often very tick and the tube lose flexibility. If you have a ridge on the tube near the hole, than your in trouble.
Since I like to by expensive ultralight tube, and I dont like to trow them away, I came with this solution, to permanently repair tube once at home.
Step one: Clean the tube with VC-100 solvent (find in plumbing department of hardware store, its used to clean PVC, ABS pipe before gluing). Rubber will get soft and a bit sticky.
Step 2 ; Coat the hole and around with GOOP for shoes repair or E-6000 glue. (They several variant of GOOP glue, but I have not try the other). A 1 mm max coat will work. Dont go to tick or the tube will lose some flexibility. Let dry over night. Once dry the patch tube remain flexible. Its impossible to remove the glue with your nail.
If the hole is very big, cut a piece of rubber from an old tube, clean tube and patch with solvent and glue them together. Clamp the patch for 24 h at least.
For off road repair, this approach seems the best solution. Note that I have not done more than few week on the road repairs tube but I am confident that they should last forever.
I have also repair damage road tire by gluing 2 layers of fiber cloth and GOOP glue by inside the tire. It have last over a year now (front tire) and staring is second season.
I'm of the adage "3 strikes and out" and sometimes you just get an unlucky tube!!!
I carry a spare new tube, a spare patched tube, and a minimalistic patch kit. Yes - I've had two punctures on one ride. I would only patch a tube a second time to get home. I cut up my old tubes and find other uses for the bits. A small section with the valve is useful when putting new rim strips on wheels (to hold it so the hole aligns properly).
People who discard punctured tubes improperly should be prosecuted the same as other low-life litterers. I pick up any old tubes I find on my rides (not many in may area) and take them home. I know one bike shop that has a "ball" of old tubes about a metre in diameter
Lezyne Smart Puncture Repair kit. Six robust rubber patches that adhere to the tube very quickly and don't crinkle up like some less substantial on offer. I would recommend them and they (so far at least) have fixed the puncture as effectively as a traditional glue puncture kit.
ebay?
Rema TipTop F0 (16mm) in 100s:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/161219712461
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/271354267622
I use 16mm patches on my 25c tubes, anything else is too big IMHO. I used a Park SA patch in the past but it only lasted till I got home so served it's purpose but due to my failings it put me off them. I carry two tubes, of the right length valve, in my pannier bag.
Any idea where I can get bulk buys of patches. I did have a bag of 100 but suddenly they were all gone.
Alright after 10 years maybe.
Lighter fluid instead of file/sandpaper to prep the tube for the rubber cement.
Patches and glue? Old fashioned? Luxury!
In my day, we have a kit with a little clamp, and patches backed with metal and a burnable substance, which you lit and let them melt the patch on. Those repairs lasted for ever.
+1 for nitrile gloves - especially if you have white bar tape.
Also in kit: Spare derailleur hanger.
Carry a spare tube, self-adhesive patches for by the roadside. When I get home I do a proper old fashioned repair.
Also carried under seat are a chain-tool, spare split-links and a pair of nitrile disposable gloves (Why get covered in muck if you don't have to!).
I carry self adhesive patches with me all the time and find them easy and quick to use. One tube has lasted me for years with a couple of these on it. I also carry a spare tube as well for when time is important.
http://www.probikekit.co.uk/bicycle-tyre-tubular-accessories/rema-tip-to...
You can bulk buy patches and get the adhesive separately as well and away you go. Surely the absolute bare minimum of any tools you should have.
cool, will look into getting some of them, most my patchs(park) dont have the glue so i do doubt them esp when i find they leak air quite a lot.
i do sandpaper them yes
'Somewhat 'bad form' that some people throw their old inners into the bushes in Surrey '
not just Surrey. Seen this a lot. Even worse if you visit any trail centre! Idiots...
Old fashioned patch and glue works best for a lasting repair. Went through a phase of only using a new inner tube but am now using repaired tubes which are lasting well. Kind of see the patches as an 'on road' repair if you get a 2nd puncture.
Somewhat 'bad form' that some people throw their old inners into the bushes in Surrey (akin to a motorist dumping rubbish out of his window). Given the recent news that some events were cancelled, potentially due to local opposition, perhaps they aren't helping their cause much.
I've had no problems with the Park ones, but if I was doing it at home I'd use old-fashioned glue-and-patches ones. If they're done properly they're as good as a new tube IMO.
Park have always been fine for me, I have a tube with 2 or 3 patches that has been going for years. You using the sandpaper first, right?
An increasingly popular solution around Surrey seems to be to throw the punctured tube in a hedge and stick a new one on...
As ShamblesUK says the old fashioned glue and proper rubbery patch seems to work for me, although have found the lezyne sticky-back quick patches work quite well
Really - never seen one.... although I see empty gel packs all the time which frustrates me...
..... particularly when every gel tube contains exactly enough energy to roll it up and stuff it in your back pocket!
Old fashioned patch and glue works fine for me, just rough the edges up with the file thing, and allow the glue to part dry before applying.
Although Tesco are doing 'em for £2 a shot it's hardly worth the effort.